Really nice read, haji.

Personally I don't think Lecaf can take it imho. While Lecaf has done really well in the regular season they do not have the depth to beat a team like MBC in a Bo7 unless they get really lucky with matchups and maps.

koryano321

United States309 Posts

July 19 2007 09:47 GMT

#22

man, nice post! as a diehard anytime fan i hope they DO take the title from the blasted MBC hero team. wouldnt mind so much if samsung won, but yeah, god no to freaking MBC. I BELIEVE MAN I BELIEVE!!

Person514cs

1004 Posts

July 19 2007 15:27 GMT

#23

zero players to the OSL or MSL. Impressive indeed.

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

July 19 2007 22:34 GMT

#24

On July 18 2007 23:44 HonestTea wrote:
BUT the New Three Powers (Samsung, Lecaf, Hero) are scary indeed. We're in for some good series.

Stork, Anytime and Pusan?
neo-king teams ftw

Gokey

United States2722 Posts

July 20 2007 09:58 GMT

#25

love this article... much depth and great evidence to back up your statements! thumbs up

Pyrthas

United States3196 Posts

July 20 2007 14:30 GMT

#26

Nice article! Just a minor point:

On July 17 2007 07:34 thedeadhaji wrote:
the winningest 2v2 team this season, Zergboy and Reach.

Max/Fantastic_Namoo?

koryano321

United States309 Posts

July 22 2007 01:45 GMT

#27

On July 20 2007 00:27 Person514cs wrote:
zero players to the OSL or MSL. Impressive indeed.

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and what does mbc have? they have one guy who is great in the leagues, and they have washed up players like pusan who never wins, hasnt shined since 2005, sea who we all know is some lil chump who never performs to what he is hyped up to be and god knows what else. lecaf didnt get to the number 2 spot in proleague by chance, it was through sheer brilliance climbing back up from the bottom of the charts. respect yo.

CustomXSpunjah

United States1093 Posts

July 23 2007 13:43 GMT

#28

i really dont see OZ beating MBC in this one, between bisu, pusan, and light, all races are covered, Bisu and Pusan have excellent pvp, and light has superior tvt and tvz...not to mention that Sea has a 5-0 record in the proleage tvz...

CustomXSpunjah

United States1093 Posts

July 23 2007 13:47 GMT

#29

On July 20 2007 23:30 Pyrthas wrote:
Nice article! Just a minor point:

Show nested quote +

Max/Fantastic_Namoo?

zergboy/reach = 9-2
max/fantastic_namoo = 14-4
percentage wise....zergboy/reach are far superior, in just terms of sheer wins (losses not accounted) then yes, max/namoo are ...umm...better?

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

July 23 2007 14:48 GMT

#30

On July 22 2007 10:45 koryano321 wrote:

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washed up?
ffs, if you took stork a year ago you would have said the same thing of him
now look at him!?
Players like PuSan and Sea are they heart and soul of this team; without their consistent efforts the team would be stranded. (Just look at the MBC-Soul game, the two 1v1 wins were from none other than pusan and sea). There is really no other players like them that consistently pull in the wins for their team. Except for FBH/Stork/Siga for KHAN (but thats a different story).

Simply put, they are among proleagues deadliest weapons, and while lacking individual results (at this moment in time), they will bounce back into the leagues soon (im sure of it) and you will feel their force.

Let's look at the MBC-Lecaf history (working form most recent backwards);
Lecaf OZ vs MBCGame HERO (6/9)
Anytime < Bisu @ Nemesis
fOrGG < Sea @ Python
Dongrae/Shinhwa > Jaehoon/dOkSa[S.G] @ Vampire
Jaedong > Ruby @ Tau Cross
fOrGG < Sea @ Geometry
Lecaf OZ 2-3 MBCGame HERO

MBCGame HERO vs Lecaf Oz (4/14)
Light > Jaedong @ Monty Hall
Ruby > Hiya @ Python
Saint/Jaehoon > Ggaemo/Backho @ Chariot of Fire
MBCGame HERO 3-0 LeCaf OZ

MBCGame Hero vs LeCaf OZ (2006 Season 2 playoffs)
ForGG_V_ (T) > Bisu (P) on Longinus
BackHo[WHITE] (P) < Sea (T) on Blitz
Dongrae/Shinhwa (T/Z) < 910/TheZerg (T/Z) on Vampire
Anytime (P) < Pusan (P) on Tau Cross
Jaedong (Z) > Light (T) on Arcadia II
N.aCe)ever/Bright (P/Z) > n.Die_Jaehoon/July (P/Z) on Full Moon
Anytime (P) < Bisu (P) on New Peaks of Baekdu
Lecaf Oz 3-4 MBCGame Hero

I cant be bothered going back any further, but i think that sends a pretty clear message, MBC have won their last 3 encounters- including one match in playoff conditions. (Also PuSan and Sea scored the 1v1 wins for the team). Sending a full team, Lecaf just cant beat MBC. Given their Proleague experiance and expert leadership and team morale- AND having won 8 of their last games. 4 of which were indeed 3-0 victories. Coach Ha knows how to win proleague- and nothing is going to stop MBC from making finals. Not anytime. Not Jaedong. Not Forgg.

EDIT:
here is roster for the playoff match
Lecaf OZ vs MBCGame HERO
fOrGG_V (T) < Geometry > Sea[Shield] (T)
BackHo[WHITE] (P) < Monty Hall > PuSan (P)
Dongrae (T)/ShinHwA[Name] (Z) < Vampire> 910[Ete] (T)/Saint[z-zone] (Z)
Jaedong (Z) < Tau Cross > Light (T)
AnyTime (P) < Nemesis > Bisu (P)
Bright[z-zone] (Z)/N.aCe)Ever (P) < Chariots of Fire> n.Die_Jaehoon (P)/TheZerg[HyO] (Z)
Ace Match < Python >

imo;
forgg < sea
backho < pusan
dongrae/shinhwa > 910/saint
jaedong > light
anytime < bisu
bright/ever < zerg/jaehoon
Lecaf 2 - 4 MBC

zer0das

United States8519 Posts

July 24 2007 04:11 GMT

#31

Good article, but I honestly don't think Lecaf can win this. Their normal crew might win a best of 5 against subpar (and even fairly good) teams, but a best of 7 against MBC? Eh... good luck with that. If Bisu continues to choke, I guess they have an outside shot.

Hot_Bid

Braavos36402 Posts

July 24 2007 04:27 GMT

#32

We'll see this Saturday won't we

I BELIEVE HAJI

koryano321

United States309 Posts

July 27 2007 16:24 GMT

#33

haji, can u explain more on the star brain challenge with anytime and upmagic? i didnt see it so i am very curious about the brilliant strategy or whatever you are talking about.

Kennigit

Canada19447 Posts

July 28 2007 00:11 GMT

#34

This is why they pay Haji the big bucks. Because when everyone laughs at his prediction, he sits back, relaxs, and lets his team 4-2 MBC. Well done good sir

infinity21

Canada6683 Posts

July 28 2007 06:13 GMT

#35

Man I can't believe I just saw this

On July 22 2007 10:45 koryano321 wrote:

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and what does mbc have? they have one guy who is great in the leagues, and they have washed up players like pusan who never wins, hasnt shined since 2005, sea who we all know is some lil chump who never performs to what he is hyped up to be and god knows what else. lecaf didnt get to the number 2 spot in proleague by chance, it was through sheer brilliance climbing back up from the bottom of the charts. respect yo.

From Carnac's pro league results thread:

Pusan 6-2 (PvP 3-0 PvZ 1-0 PvT 2-2)
Sea 16-5 (TvT 5-2 TvP 6-3 TvZ 5-0)

Excuse me??

You think 6-2 is a record from a washed up player and 16-5 a record from a lil chump who never performs to what he is hyped up to be?!?!?

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Funny how you picked the only two players who got a win for their team vs Lecaf last night

You can dislike certain players but you can't discredit their results.

Anyways, haji's prediction just might come true

However, I wonder how Lecaf's 2v2 teams will perform against Khan's.

btw, I have to quote this:

On July 17 2007 07:34 thedeadhaji wrote:
and now I’m going to claim that it’s 2v2 is one of the reason’s they’re going to win the Proleague