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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
May 25 2011 05:43 GMT
#521
On May 25 2011 13:31 Mystlord wrote:
Absolutely sick write up Ver. Major props! Can't wait for the next installment <3

Though it does make you wonder that if Savior understood the game to such a degree, exactly why did he start slumping?

I can think of a few POSSIBLE reasons...

1. Loss of confidence - Losing to Bisu like that really pulled a number on him. To get shut down 3-0 in a finals after beating Nada a week or two prior in OSL finals on imba maps must hurt a lot. And it's not like the series was close - it was a total rape.

2. Mechanics - His relative lack of mechanical abilities caught up with him in an era where Bisu's multitask set a new standard and others had to find way around it, perhaps he hit a wall there.

3. Aging - There was a news article posted a long time ago on TL that stated more or less that as you get older you multitask worse and worse, as well as people who multitask a lot (i.e. progamers) lose their multitasking ability more rapidly.

4. Stress/fatigue - It's hard to be at the top for so long, preparing for such grueling feats that Savior pulled.

5. Money incentive - When he stopped winning due to some or all of the above reasons, he started matchfixing and that can kill your motivation to play. It's like playing with hacks on, inside you aren't satisfied because you are cheating your teammates, fans, and the community as a whole.

There are probably more but I already devoted quite some time to thinking these through n_n
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
May 25 2011 05:54 GMT
#522
Wow AWSM WRITE UP!!
Cant wait for part 2.
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
May 25 2011 05:59 GMT
#523
My hero, the one who made me play zerg and broodwar.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 06:01:29
May 25 2011 05:59 GMT
#524
<<33 this Article.

As someone who doesnt really let the "scandal" affect what i think of his actual play... this guy is a BEAST of a gamer. Seriously he is and will always be my favorite pro and my favorite moment ever in e-sports is when i got to take my picture with this guy,,,,

I would seriously give anything to see Savior in SC2. Would literally make me cry tears of joy. Even if he cant participate in GSL there are plenty of other events he could participate in. Who wouldnt LOVE to have this Gosu in their tournies?

<<<<33333 you Savior. Will always be the greatest to me.

There is a reason my sc2 and tl id's are Maestro. I know the max-fitching was wrong, but in-game this guy was a god. Totally my e-sports inspiration for life.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 25 2011 06:02 GMT
#525
On May 25 2011 12:11 Sharkyloft wrote:

Is brood war a deeper game where more complex strategies are possible?
Is brood war skill cap higher?
Is WoL a simple and easy game compared to its predecessor?
How was brood war at its beginning?

Im throwing a lot of questions out there. You see, Im concerned. I love Starcraft 2 with all my heart, but when I compare both games and the skill level involved, I cant help but feeling SC2 is a much simpler, pretty and shallow game. I certainly hope im wrong... but... am I?


It's harder and has a higher skill ceiling based on the interface and more soft counters. SC Vanilla is nothing like its Brood War counterpart, so the upcoming expansions should help, but I'm still on the fence. We got a ways to go before we see SC2 for what it truly is.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
May 25 2011 06:02 GMT
#526
@count9

Well, there are still people that are dominant in the SC2 scene, the fact that there are dominant people in BW doesn't change that

On topic though, big hearts to the article, was awesome to see something savior-related without it having to be a full article hating on him >,>... Can't wait for part 2!
memes are a dish best served dank
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
May 25 2011 06:04 GMT
#527
The Maestro played a wonderful tune indeed. Excellent article.
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
May 25 2011 06:05 GMT
#528
OMG! This is my top 2 favorite final edits of all time! Awesome writeup! I'm going to so show my friends this article since he plays Zerg.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 25 2011 06:05 GMT
#529
Ver you are the man, I am happy this finally came out. I actually meant to ask you for it a while ago.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
May 25 2011 06:06 GMT
#530
An incredible trip down memory lane... with great insights from a fantastic guide. Thanks Ver!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
May 25 2011 06:17 GMT
#531
I miss the days when I was a huge savior fan. That's what brought me to TL back in the day.

Great article, so much nostalgia.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
May 25 2011 06:18 GMT
#532
On May 25 2011 14:43 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 13:31 Mystlord wrote:
Absolutely sick write up Ver. Major props! Can't wait for the next installment <3

Though it does make you wonder that if Savior understood the game to such a degree, exactly why did he start slumping?

I can think of a few POSSIBLE reasons...

1. Loss of confidence - Losing to Bisu like that really pulled a number on him. To get shut down 3-0 in a finals after beating Nada a week or two prior in OSL finals on imba maps must hurt a lot. And it's not like the series was close - it was a total rape.

2. Mechanics - His relative lack of mechanical abilities caught up with him in an era where Bisu's multitask set a new standard and others had to find way around it, perhaps he hit a wall there.

3. Aging - There was a news article posted a long time ago on TL that stated more or less that as you get older you multitask worse and worse, as well as people who multitask a lot (i.e. progamers) lose their multitasking ability more rapidly.

4. Stress/fatigue - It's hard to be at the top for so long, preparing for such grueling feats that Savior pulled.

5. Money incentive - When he stopped winning due to some or all of the above reasons, he started matchfixing and that can kill your motivation to play. It's like playing with hacks on, inside you aren't satisfied because you are cheating your teammates, fans, and the community as a whole.

There are probably more but I already devoted quite some time to thinking these through n_n


To be honest, I think it has to be the matchfixing mostly. Thought I hate saying it, I don't think he could have fallen so far with just a "slump." But the betters made a killing because people would always still believe Savior would pull out of it and would bet on him, but with inside information that he'd lose you'd make so much money.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
May 25 2011 06:26 GMT
#533
The most interesting part of this extremely well-written article is how closely it applies to Flash. He's even criticized for the same things you mention, has worse mechanics than many of the players he beats, and makes the correct tactical decisions nearly 100% of the time to crush often superior forces. It's nice to see SaviOr being successfully mirrored, if not by a member of the same race.

Great read.
the last wcs commissioner
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
May 25 2011 06:27 GMT
#534
An amazing article! Thank you!
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 25 2011 06:27 GMT
#535
This is handsdown the best article ive ever seen. Wow.
KCCO!
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
May 25 2011 06:35 GMT
#536
Superb writeup! Savior is so sexy. He just straight up looks like a nerd slayer ^^
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
May 25 2011 06:39 GMT
#537
There are no words.

Sigh... Ma Bonjwa is quite possibly the most polarizing figure in e-Sports. His fans love him to death, and deservedly so. His peers respected him and knew that he was a genius beyond his time. But the taint of the match-fixing scandal is so pervasive that up to now, some people can't appreciate his gameplay because of what he did outside the game. Separate the player and the person, please, because you're missing out on so much if you do.

That said, Ver is a juggernaut of BW analysis. He's playing SC2 professionally now, right? Or at least competing in tourneys?
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33383 Posts
May 25 2011 06:39 GMT
#538
can't believe you're all falling for our elaborate trap, where we round up all the remaining Brood War fans and ban them so we can focus on SC II
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
May 25 2011 06:43 GMT
#539
This is probably the best article I have ever read, too bad any mention of Savior leaves a bittersweet feeling.
"It's not acceptable"
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 25 2011 06:48 GMT
#540
On May 25 2011 15:39 Waxangel wrote:
can't believe you're all falling for our elaborate trap, where we round up all the remaining Brood War fans and ban them so we can focus on SC II


Psssh. What nubbery. Everyone knows BW is infinity factorial better.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
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