• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:45
CEST 16:45
KST 23:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!37Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 GSTL Announcement Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Best Games Kespa era [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5893 users

The Elephant in the Room - Page 300

Forum Index > Final Edits
6514 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 298 299 300 301 302 326 Next
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 02:13 GMT
#5981
I think a lot of people are not realizing most of the posts the last few pages are jokes
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
July 01 2013 02:14 GMT
#5982
Lol just look at Code S or Code A Korea
Bogus ST_Life IMMVP
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
July 01 2013 02:14 GMT
#5983
On July 01 2013 11:12 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:09 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 edgeOut wrote:
Hypocrites hate the war when their side are losing, and they cling that rare chance to love the war when their side are winning.


Talk to me about the elephant losing at an NA event to a college student and a grump Swede.


Just like biggest eSF prodigy Life losing to lower tier foreigners Sjow, shit happens.

well, at least the college student is really good at playing sc2, so I wouldn't be ashamed of that.

losing to naniwa on the other hand... well ok, he also somehow beat jaedong and took a game of from polt, so maybe he ahd a good day.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
July 01 2013 02:14 GMT
#5984
On July 01 2013 11:13 lichter wrote:
I think a lot of people are not realizing most of the posts the last few pages are jokes

Poe's Law runs this shit.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
July 01 2013 02:14 GMT
#5985
lol ESF fanboys mad cause no ESF player will ever again win WCS Korea.
BW4LIFE
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 01 2013 02:14 GMT
#5986
lol I just filtered my posts in here to see if I had posted here before today (TL+ imba)
my only post is quoting this guy to question his statement
On February 13 2012 12:45 gulati wrote:
The day Jaedong switches to SC2, I'll be laughing at anyone who even remembers what a "NesTea" is.

lol
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 01 2013 02:14 GMT
#5987
On July 01 2013 11:13 lichter wrote:
Polt needs an american name by the way

His given name is Seong Hoon so I suggest... Jeremy

Simon man
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33678 Posts
July 01 2013 02:15 GMT
#5988
Paul
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 01 2013 02:15 GMT
#5989
On July 01 2013 11:03 Iodem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 10:55 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:54 Dodgin wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:51 NovemberstOrm wrote:
oh dear this thread.


Oh Dear, It's your fault for losing to Naniwa.

That was fun to watch. Somewhere, out here, careful research is being done to prove that it was all a fluke and the Elephant is still alive.


It's already been laid out. Hyun is 'essentially KeSPA' and made it to the finals.



Depends on what people's definition of a Kespa player is.

Some Kespa fans say that they're fans of Kespa players because they believe that the training environment and infrastructure that Kespa teams provide means that they should be the best. That means that players not on a Kespa team shouldn't count as Kespa.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 01 2013 02:15 GMT
#5990
On July 01 2013 11:12 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:09 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 edgeOut wrote:
Hypocrites hate the war when their side are losing, and they cling that rare chance to love the war when their side are winning.


Talk to me about the elephant losing at an NA event to a college student and a grump Swede.


Just like biggest eSF prodigy Life losing to lower tier foreigners Sjow, shit happens.

Life, I remember him. Didn't he beat some top teir korean terran? I can't remember.

Oh yeah.

Sjow > Flash!!!!!!!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 01 2013 02:15 GMT
#5991
Poll: Polt's American name?

Paul (13)
 
72%

Jeremy (3)
 
17%

Simon (2)
 
11%

18 total votes

Your vote: Polt's American name?

(Vote): Jeremy
(Vote): Paul
(Vote): Simon

Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 02:16 GMT
#5992
On July 01 2013 11:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
lol I just filtered my posts in here to see if I had posted here before today (TL+ imba)
my only post is quoting this guy to question his statement
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 12:45 gulati wrote:
The day Jaedong switches to SC2, I'll be laughing at anyone who even remembers what a "NesTea" is.

lol


This is my first post in this thread surprisingly

I should have my Esf Defender badge revoked
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
July 01 2013 02:17 GMT
#5993
On July 01 2013 11:15 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:12 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:09 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 edgeOut wrote:
Hypocrites hate the war when their side are losing, and they cling that rare chance to love the war when their side are winning.


Talk to me about the elephant losing at an NA event to a college student and a grump Swede.


Just like biggest eSF prodigy Life losing to lower tier foreigners Sjow, shit happens.

Life, I remember him. Didn't he beat some top teir korean terran? I can't remember.

Oh yeah.

Sjow > Flash!!!!!!!


Yeah, Foreigners are so good. They can enjoy that rare win for their whole life.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
July 01 2013 02:17 GMT
#5994
Simon sounds the most like Seong Hoon I guess.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 02:17 GMT
#5995
I'm also surprised no body claimed HerO for America

you guyz so xenophobic
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 01 2013 02:17 GMT
#5996
On July 01 2013 11:14 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:13 lichter wrote:
Polt needs an american name by the way

His given name is Seong Hoon so I suggest... Jeremy

Simon man


On July 01 2013 11:15 Waxangel wrote:
Paul


Ok, I got it. Paul Simon? To much?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:17 GMT
#5997
On July 01 2013 10:50 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 10:48 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:46 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:41 Wombat_NI wrote:
This article really needs to be cleansed by fire.

Actually not a bad read, but the impact it has had on LR threads and fuelling obnoxious posters is huge

He, if people didn't act like Innovation and Flash were the second coming, we would all be ok.

Those two are legit ballers though, currently anyway! It's when even the mediocre Kespa players are elephated and overhyped that annoys me personally

Its almost like them being in Kespa has nothing to do with it and its really about Innovation and Flash. Its almost like, the Elephant was a pile of crap all along.

No, It's not just innovation and Flash.
Right now the top 10 of most people's list is SPL player dominated.
Although I disagree with some of the contents of the piece, the top SPL players have shown to be more efficient, mechanically superior players with their rigorous training system.

On July 01 2013 10:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 10:54 Dodgin wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:51 NovemberstOrm wrote:
oh dear this thread.


Oh Dear, It's your fault for losing to Naniwa.

That was fun to watch. Somewhere, out here, careful research is being done to prove that it was all a fluke and the Elephant is still alive.

It was not a fluke. Naniwa played exceptionally well. That being said, it proves absolutely nothing. You can maybe make the inference that Naniwa could probably hang around with mid-tier Kespa players or Code A players as that is exactly what Dear is over a 1 game sample size.
The elephant never died. It's always been alive and it's clearly getting more evident about the SPL player's dominance although the few top tier GSTL players are able to keep up. That has been being scene in Asian Games Qualifiers, Code A qualifiers, Up/Downs, and Code S.

On July 01 2013 11:09 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:05 edgeOut wrote:
Hypocrites hate the war when their side are losing, and they cling that rare chance to love the war when their side are winning.


Talk to me about the elephant losing at an NA event to a college student and a grumpy Swede.

Okay, let's talk about that.
Polt and Naniwa beat Dear.
Where are you going with this?

lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 02:18 GMT
#5998
On July 01 2013 11:17 Iodem wrote:
Simon sounds the most like Seong Hoon I guess.


Simon doesn't sound very American though
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 01 2013 02:18 GMT
#5999
On July 01 2013 11:17 lichter wrote:
I'm also surprised no body claimed HerO for America

you guyz so xenophobic

He lives in Korea though. and he plays in proleague. he's like .49 kespa
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 02:20:28
July 01 2013 02:18 GMT
#6000
On July 01 2013 11:17 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:15 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:12 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:09 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 edgeOut wrote:
Hypocrites hate the war when their side are losing, and they cling that rare chance to love the war when their side are winning.


Talk to me about the elephant losing at an NA event to a college student and a grump Swede.


Just like biggest eSF prodigy Life losing to lower tier foreigners Sjow, shit happens.

Life, I remember him. Didn't he beat some top teir korean terran? I can't remember.

Oh yeah.

Sjow > Flash!!!!!!!


Yeah, Foreigners are so good. They can enjoy that rare win for their whole life.

except foreigners actually edge out a considerable amount of wins. the situation is far from being as bad as it was in BW.

I just realised the unintentional play of words with your username.

hah.
Prev 1 298 299 300 301 302 326 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiG Sty Festival
12:00
PiGfest 8.0 Group C
Krystianer vs CureLIVE!
herO vs Solar
PiGStarcraft1085
IntoTheiNu 855
TaKeTV 320
BRAT_OK 101
3DClanTV 46
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1348
PiGStarcraft1085
Rex 157
BRAT_OK 101
SHIN 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 64971
EffOrt 880
Shuttle 813
BeSt 631
firebathero 413
Zeus 322
Rush 317
ZerO 302
Leta 232
hero 134
[ Show more ]
Mong 97
Sexy 77
Sharp 70
PianO 69
ToSsGirL 55
Free 54
Bonyth 43
HiyA 26
zelot 26
Rock 23
Bale 18
Sacsri 13
Dota 2
The International65783
singsing5073
Dendi581
Counter-Strike
fl0m4466
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King79
Chillindude17
Other Games
B2W.Neo590
Lowko400
DeMusliM216
Liquid`VortiX118
ArmadaUGS36
KnowMe33
Trikslyr29
UpATreeSC23
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 468
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HappyZerGling 63
• mYiSmile110
• Response 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1845
• Nemesis1746
Upcoming Events
IPSL
1h 15m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19h 15m
PiG Sty Festival
21h 15m
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
IPSL
1d 1h
OSC
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 19h
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
1d 20h
The Patches Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.