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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:00 ZAiNs wrote: soo, the stats of the kespa players this recent mlg... oh dear. these guys winning the qualifier and dropping out of mlg proved they were just a flash in the pan. they've probably already sent out an sos to the rest of kespa who can come show some real innovation and make it rain on the foreigners next mlg. something bisu | ||
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:03 Thienan567 wrote: And the funniest thing is neither of them were big in BW. Nani was on wc3 and idk what polt played before sc2 but I never heard of him being on a kespa team so... Sorry BW fanboys but elephant is disproven kespa players are shit You made it seems this MLG is the biggest tournament with all talents in it. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:03 Iodem wrote: It's already been laid out. Hyun is 'essentially KeSPA' and made it to the finals.  But I think the overarching theme will be that Dear, soO, and Stats being the three players to qualify were flukes, and that Innovation/Flash/sOs or some other combination would've been better off. All three kespa players still made it pretty deep into the tournament, but they weren't quite able to cinch the title. Stats and Dear also ran into each other early on, so stats had a hard time going into the loser bracket and then eventually lost to Jaedong(so that's technically another kespa team kill). Also KeSPAbros will continue claiming victory by pointing at the Code A qualifier results. Were the Code A qualifier results one-sided or something? Tried to keep track but it's somewhat tough. I mean, there are also a lot of ESF/ex-ESF of at least Code A quality in other WCS regions as well, so it's not an entirely fair comparison to make. | ||
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Thienan567
United States670 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:04 edgeOut wrote: You made it seems this MLG is the biggest tournament with all talents in it. Kind of...because it does? Kespa holds qualifiers to see who the best kespa players are (hint hint not jangbi stork fantasy bisu) and then sends them over and they get wrecked | ||
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Tanzklaue
Germany1415 Posts
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote: There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition. what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea. add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players. | ||
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:03 Thienan567 wrote: And the funniest thing is neither of them were big in BW. Nani was on wc3 and idk what polt played before sc2 but I never heard of him being on a kespa team so... Sorry BW fanboys but elephant is disproven kespa players are shit polt played wc3 before. | ||
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote: actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition. what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea. add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players. if most Koreans winning here are not afficialiated with either KeSPA or eSF, how do you get the conclusion that kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:05 edgeOut wrote: Hypocrites hate the war when their side are losing, and they cling that rare chance to love the war when their side are winning. War? Hypocrites? Side? Oh boy, time to step back man, you are taking this whole thing waaaay to serious.... | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:07 edgeOut wrote: if most Koreans winning here are not afficialiated with either KeSPA or eSF, how do you get the conclusion that kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players. Kespa and eSF are both a farce, the true competition is between foreign team Koreans and our American hero Polt. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:05 edgeOut wrote: Hypocrites hate the war when their side are losing, and they cling that rare chance to love the war when their side are winning. Talk to me about the elephant losing at an NA event to a college student and a grumpy Swede. | ||
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:08 Assirra wrote: War? Hypocrites? Side? Oh boy, time to step back man, you are taking this whole thing waaaay to serious.... Politics are serious though. | ||
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Iodem
United States1173 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:05 Thienan567 wrote: Kind of...because it does? Kespa holds qualifiers to see who the best kespa players are (hint hint not jangbi stork fantasy bisu) and then sends them over and they get wrecked They all made top 10 finishes in their first foreign tournament, so I wouldn't consider that 'wrecked.' | ||
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Tanzklaue
Germany1415 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:07 edgeOut wrote: if most Koreans winning here are not afficialiated with either KeSPA or eSF, how do you get the conclusion that kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players. that was a seperate conclusion. sure, innovation, soulkey and rain are outstanding at the moment. we saw such dominances from a selected few players at different stages of sc2 (and even broodwar). but the average code s kespa player is just as good or bad as the average esf code s player. they all have the ability to make it far into a tournament on a good day, and they all could take a code s championship with an outstanding run. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:09 Dodgin wrote: Kespa and eSF are both a farce, the true competition is between foreign team Koreans and our American hero Polt. WCS America too strong. just wait til HyuN joins. 5/ top 8 at MLG 3/ top 4 including top 2 at HSC 7 recent dreamhack finalist JYP fleeing to Korea to qualify pretty much undeniable that the elephant in the room is WCS America >>> Korea >>>>>>> Europe | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:09 Dodgin wrote: Kespa and eSF are both a farce, the true competition is between foreign team Koreans and our American hero Polt. America vs Germany Polt vs Jurgen the true Sc2 | ||
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Aphid
Australia87 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:03 Thienan567 wrote: And the funniest thing is neither of them were big in BW. Nani was on wc3 and idk what polt played before sc2 but I never heard of him being on a kespa team so... Sorry BW fanboys but elephant is disproven kespa players are shit lol how did the argument go from, kespa players not being as dominant as expected, to kespa players are shit. Surely you realize how absurd that statement was. | ||
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:09 Plansix wrote: Talk to me about the elephant losing at an NA event to a college student and a grump Swede. Just like biggest eSF prodigy Life losing to lower tier foreigner than nani, Sjow, shit, travelling, jetlag, unfamiliar environment happened. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
His given name is Seong Hoon so I suggest... Jeremy | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 01 2013 11:13 lichter wrote: Polt needs an american name by the way His given name is Seong Hoon so I suggest... Jeremy Jeremy vs Jurgen Blizzcon Finals 2013. | ||
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