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plasma4
Profile Joined March 2016
123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 08:52:51
April 17 2016 04:41 GMT
#1281
To cover yourself or others entirely with blood or baby. I think zest and TY will be able to make it to the finals. I think zest will win the whole thing but i want Ty to win.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2220 Posts
April 17 2016 09:24 GMT
#1282
Zest looking completely unstoppable to me.
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highsis
Profile Joined August 2011
259 Posts
April 17 2016 21:55 GMT
#1283
Zest did not play well in the third game. I think its because the map is not used in proleague and he did not prepare as much? If zest plays like game 3 I'm bit worried for his chance in the tournament.
plasma4
Profile Joined March 2016
123 Posts
April 17 2016 22:52 GMT
#1284
its the chances of his opponents you have to worry about looking at Zest now.
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 18 2016 05:50 GMT
#1285
On April 18 2016 06:55 highsis wrote:
Zest did not play well in the third game. I think its because the map is not used in proleague and he did not prepare as much? If zest plays like game 3 I'm bit worried for his chance in the tournament.


one answer could be he knew that he was going to win anyway so he's not really trying his hardest anymore?
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 10:32:03
April 18 2016 10:28 GMT
#1286
He didn't actually play poorly aside from the anti timing before 2/2. He was massively ahead in economy, but not in tech. If he'd allowed Taeja to mass MMMM, he'd have spiraled - that's what happens with gateway armies once the medivac count rises. If you rewatch the game - or any of Zest's PvTs - he's constantly looking for fights and targets down medivacs. That's what really makes his midgame army work. It's never "outdated" because he keeps resetting the terran army by killing medivacs. So all those trades he took that looked unfavorable actually weren't, except the one near the gold.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
April 18 2016 10:38 GMT
#1287
This game in Proleague today -.-
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
April 18 2016 10:47 GMT
#1288
Dang his PvP didn't look that great today. Seemed like he misread the situation. Oh well he still has about 4 days to prepare for Dear.
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
April 18 2016 10:54 GMT
#1289
Zest vs Dear might be really close, if not Dear favoured
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1221 Posts
April 18 2016 10:55 GMT
#1290
Well, I guess his mind is focused on GSL. Or I hope so anyway.
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c7vil
Profile Joined June 2015
29 Posts
April 18 2016 11:00 GMT
#1291
Now Im a little worried about his PVP on Friday _(:з」∠)_
With Zest ! Go ! Zest !
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
April 18 2016 11:22 GMT
#1292
I wouldn't be too worried for GSL yet. It was a BO1 and Classic mindgamed him pretty hard with his double oracle into double expand into full ground.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 11:32:44
April 18 2016 11:29 GMT
#1293
On April 18 2016 20:22 Elentos wrote:
I wouldn't be too worried for GSL yet. It was a BO1 and Classic mindgamed him pretty hard with his double oracle into double expand into full ground.

Ya not surprised Zest would play pretty safe and stay on two bases for a while after seeing double oracle. It's not something you see very much and after Classic had his third up for so long without Zest knowing the game was pretty much over. You're right though this game doesn't really mean anything for gsl. It didn't really show where his PvP is at right now.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
April 18 2016 12:44 GMT
#1294
I went to sleep last night thinking "Zest has to cheese Classic or he will lose". Ha! I jinxed it. Sorry Zest!!!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 18 2016 14:17 GMT
#1295
Btw PvP is a gigantic coinflip atm
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 18 2016 14:38 GMT
#1296
Well losing in a bo1 is different than losing a bo7. I am still confident^^
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 18 2016 19:00 GMT
#1297
man I still believe in a thing call ZestvP, not sure if it's still a thing in LotV
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
April 18 2016 20:13 GMT
#1298
On April 18 2016 23:17 Olli wrote:
Btw PvP is a gigantic coinflip atm

And what exactly is the coinflip? Stargate/no stargate?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 18 2016 20:19 GMT
#1299
On April 19 2016 05:13 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 23:17 Olli wrote:
Btw PvP is a gigantic coinflip atm

And what exactly is the coinflip? Stargate/no stargate?


It's mostly about openings from what I can tell. MSC scouting can win and lose you games. If you get proxy oracle'd or pylon BS'd while you're MSC scouting, you insta-lose. If you MSC scout their opening and get to adjust in time, you get super ahead (see Zest vs Hush). If there's no scouting, phoenix first still has a massive advantage over oracle first.

All in all scouting got harder, or at least more coinflippy I feel and new chronoboost makes it really unforgiving to fall behind early. Say you open oracle vs phoenix first. You're kinda just dead. Transitioning to blink takes literally a million years with new chronoboost and by the time you finally have it, you've lost 30 probes. Other option is just to play the whole game from behind.

Also doesn't help that probe production is much slower with new chronoboost, so losing probes early is even more of a death sentence than it used to be. You can see how that encourages people to flip coins for early damage.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
bestviva
Profile Joined July 2015
148 Posts
April 19 2016 04:06 GMT
#1300
not that bad to me, at least it could remind him what he may get to face when against dear, but anyway he did lost two PVP in spl, I dont know if I should worry about that
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