EPTI think this whole idea of people voting on things is wrong. We should have a politburo of unelected experts or some king decide everything in our lives. The masses are obviously too ignorant to make decisions like that.
Thank you Mr Stalin.
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
I think this whole idea of people voting on things is wrong. We should have a politburo of unelected experts or some king decide everything in our lives. The masses are obviously too ignorant to make decisions like that. Thank you Mr Stalin. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Plopus
Switzerland112 Posts
Anyway, I wish the best to Zest and hop to be able to watch him play many games. | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
This is where you calm down or I'll ban you. Then ban me and get it over with. People are outraged that the fans might actually get to vote for some players. The fans voted for good players. Gumiho won one GSL he is not the god of Starcraft. Before this year nobody cared about Gumiho. The world champion got in instead. So what? | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
I hope Zest does better at HSC than he has recently, but I'm not optimistic unfortunately. | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On July 20 2017 15:18 Rolltide wrote: """""ByuN and Scarlett are the consequences of the whole popular fan vote."""" I think this whole idea of people voting on things is wrong. We should have a politburo of unelected experts or some king decide everything in our lives. The masses are obviously too ignorant to make decisions like that. Thank you Mr Stalin. The whole voting is not as bad as the idea that people couldn't care less about some players's performances. They only vote because those players are popular. The result turned out to be decent because BlizzCon made the nomination list. Otherwise, we would see some crazy votes. Again, nothing is wrong with voting but for a competitive game as SC2, it is simply unnecessary. Make a qualifier for Top 20 (minus the 4 selected) and get it done in a night. Would that be easier and less problematic? No one would complain about technical issue like only US account can vote or complain about lame popularity contest and so on. Also, we are all civil here. No need to be overly sarcastic and borderline insulting in your replies. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On July 21 2017 01:49 Vutalisk wrote: The whole voting is not as bad as the idea that people couldn't care less about some players's performances. They only vote because those players are popular. The result turned out to be decent because BlizzCon made the nomination list. Otherwise, we would see some crazy votes. Again, nothing is wrong with voting but for a competitive game as SC2, it is simply unnecessary. Make a qualifier for Top 20 (minus the 4 selected) and get it done in a night. Would that be easier and less problematic? No one would complain about technical issue like only US account can vote or complain about lame popularity contest and so on. Also, we are all civil here. No need to be overly sarcastic and borderline insulting in your replies. While I agree with some of his points, Rolltide is simply committing a strawman fallacy (and a poor one at that). Pretending democracy is some perfect system that always elects the perfect candidate while all others are evil conspiracies is disingenuous at best and ignorant at worst. Obviously, he has never heard of Donald Trump. | ||
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Plopus
Switzerland112 Posts
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Elentos
55591 Posts
On July 21 2017 16:05 Plopus wrote: I just saw that Zest is supposed to play in Starleague against ByuN challenge this weekend. Do you know if there are any arrangment since both Zest and ByuN will be at the home story cup. Will they play on the European server from Germany? If I remember right the starleague challenge is played online so it should not be a problem right? There's no Challenge this week or the next few weeks. | ||
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Plopus
Switzerland112 Posts
On July 21 2017 17:39 Elentos wrote: There's no Challenge this week or the next few weeks. Thanks for the info. I don't know why I say that they were facing each other this weekend. That's strange! | ||
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bestiszest
France103 Posts
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Plopus
Switzerland112 Posts
On July 21 2017 21:11 bestiszest wrote: Didn't see the game but Zest did 3-1 Demuslim not that I'm surprised but some seemed to believe that he could lose to that guy I didn't see it either but just watched the 3-0 against TLO. It was quite convincing. Nice to begin the tournament this way althrough these oponents aren't the best. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Plopus
Switzerland112 Posts
On July 21 2017 21:47 Phredxor wrote: I don't think anyone expected him to lose to Demu. That's a whole nother level of bad. Regarding the current form of Zest against terran I would not have been totally surprised. But maybe I was a bit too much disappointed by his recent results and now I'm expecting the worst. | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
Obviously, he has never heard of Donald Trump.]""""""" Where did I say anything about democracy being perfect? Or anything remotely close to that? I did not and never would. So you are arguing against something I never said, a point I never made? Then you destroy your entire thesis by bringing up Donald Trump. So what would be your solution there eliminate presidential elections in the USA because you did not like the result? Less democracy? You did not destroy my argument you made it for me. | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
Nice elitist attitude. So everybody else in the world is stupid and uninformed except you? | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On July 23 2017 04:19 Rolltide wrote: """"""While I agree with some of his points, Rolltide is simply committing a strawman fallacy (and a poor one at that). Pretending democracy is some perfect system that always elects the perfect candidate while all others are evil conspiracies is disingenuous at best and ignorant at worst. Obviously, he has never heard of Donald Trump.]""""""" Where did I say anything about democracy being perfect? Or anything remotely close to that? I did not and never would. So you are arguing against something I never said, a point I never made? Then you destroy your entire thesis by bringing up Donald Trump. So what would be your solution there eliminate presidential elections in the USA because you did not like the result? Less democracy? You did not destroy my argument you made it for me. When your "argument" consists of a poorly constructed Stalinism strawman, I don't have much to work with. Giving you one argument means you've now have a grand total of one. The actual point that people are making is that democracy is an imperfect system which does not always yield the best results. And the point I am making to you is that people criticizing democracy does not mean they are Stalinists or any other form of conspiracy-tinfoil cabal of shadowy "elitists" maliciously scheming to rob the "common man" for TEH EVULZ. Responding in a more civil and less presumptive manner will also help your case, btw. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On July 23 2017 05:03 Olli wrote: This is not the place. Come on. Whoops, didn't see this. Ignore my above post. Conversation over. | ||
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