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fzcdarkgod
58 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:50 The_Red_Viper wrote: It's just his PvT most likely. He always seems to struggle with one matchup i think But i can't understand his obvious fault...He need to practice with Ty and stats... | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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fzcdarkgod
58 Posts
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
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fzcdarkgod
58 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Lil_nooblet
United States459 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:25 NinjaToss wrote: For the 1st game it was way over too quick, but the 2nd game should really have been his. For some reason I feel like he never has enough units when he plays, not sure if he was macro badly or does he not have enough production values. That aside, he should still be able to win, except that the moment the flock of Viking comes it it's suddenly so one sided. I don't think it is possible unless he was going for an all in to have more units than he had. He didn't even have forges down. Tank pushes are just absurd against robo builds. | ||
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AshC
United States328 Posts
Second game, he focused too much on Colossals to the point he got Twilight at almost 9 minutes mark and no upgrades up to that point whatsoever. On top of that, no pythons on the edge of the main base either to overcharge to chase away the Medivacs. He basically let the whole like 3 full Medivacs to unload and stim the hell out of it. Then, he chased the stimmed bio that were already running away with storms on the third base. Who does that? 2 games were less than 20 minutes in total and that basically said it all. | ||
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Lil_nooblet
United States459 Posts
On March 21 2017 09:50 AshC wrote: Well, it is not a bad thing to lose 0:2 to Innovation but both games were just bad. First game, what is the point of having an Oracle when he didn't even tag the army that was moving out? Instead of coming back home to defend, he was busy killing SCVs with his Oracle and Phoenixes and then when he came back, there were basically no energy left and Glaves wasn't even done. I was like Innovation was gonna steamroll him before the 7 minutes mark... Second game, he focused too much on Colossals to the point he got Twilight at almost 9 minutes mark and no upgrades up to that point whatsoever. On top of that, no pythons on the edge of the main base either to overcharge to chase away the Medivacs. He basically let the whole like 3 full Medivacs to unload and stim the hell out of it. Then, he chased the stimmed bio that were already running away with storms on the third base. Who does that? 2 games were less than 20 minutes in total and that basically said it all. You have to get fast colossus when you go robo like that. There is a variant robo build where you get twilight with the robo and get colossus a bit later with double forge but with the robo build he did without the twilight (the more popular one right now) you get extremely fast colossus and then you stop at 3 then transition to something else. Getting fast storm like that was pretty smart since Inno had so many vikings. The problem was that he didn't crush the tank push hard enough and they traded evenly thus giving Inno a big lead. Maybe instead of taking his 3rd at 530 he should have just taken double forge on two base or something so he wouldn't be so behind in upgrades but that also makes the tank push harder to stop. He actually didn't play bad. He was just a bit unfortunate in the series. | ||
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AshC
United States328 Posts
On March 21 2017 10:34 Lil_nooblet wrote: You have to get fast colossus when you go robo like that. There is a variant robo build where you get twilight with the robo and get colossus a bit later with double forge but with the robo build he did without the twilight (the more popular one right now) you get extremely fast colossus and then you stop at 3 then transition to something else. Getting fast storm like that was pretty smart since Inno had so many vikings. The problem was that he didn't crush the tank push hard enough and they traded evenly thus giving Inno a big lead. Maybe instead of taking his 3rd at 530 he should have just taken double forge on two base or something so he wouldn't be so behind in upgrades but that also makes the tank push harder to stop. He actually didn't play bad. He was just a bit unfortunate in the series. He got fast storm and didn't even kill one Viking with his storms. He dropped 3 storms while Bios + Vikings were running away and killed like 2 Marines and 1 Marauder. Then, that was just useless. I wouldn't call it unfortunate. | ||
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Lil_nooblet
United States459 Posts
On March 21 2017 11:01 AshC wrote: He got fast storm and didn't even kill one Viking with his storms. He dropped 3 storms while Bios + Vikings were running away and killed like 2 Marines and 1 Marauder. Then, that was just useless. I wouldn't call it unfortunate. I mean no player is perfect. Everybody makes mistakes so I'm not sure what you expect. He didn't lose the game because he whiffed on two storms as Inno was retreating. That was the least of his problems. He lost because robo builds aren't good and because he didn't crush the tank push hard enough. This gave Inno a big upgrade lead. Even with decent storms I don't think he wins that game. | ||
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Dastansc2
81 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 23 2017 22:03 Dastansc2 wrote: Zest saying in his VSL interview that he'll streaming tomorrow!!! Also he's not motivated with sc2 Not motivated? That's sad to hear. | ||
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Lil_nooblet
United States459 Posts
Yeah. He also said he doesn't practice much but that he hopes streaming will help motivate him more. | ||
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AshC
United States328 Posts
On March 24 2017 06:23 Lil_nooblet wrote: Yeah. He also said he doesn't practice much but that he hopes streaming will help motivate him more. He should. Chatting with fans and relax a bit. A bit surprised that he lost his motivation given he is still a great player. Plus, his former teammates AKA Stats and TY are doing so well lately. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
And you guys seem to actually ignoring the most important thing. He's going to streaming tomorrow, 21pm KST, on Twitch, finally. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
And he has said he'd stream ages ago, i'll believe it when I see it  | ||
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
On March 24 2017 09:27 Phredxor wrote: Not exactly freaking out. But if you're not motivated to play it's hardly a stretch to think it could lead to moving on. And he has said he'd stream ages ago, i'll believe it when I see it Well, it's on Korean articles http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2017032321561082380 as for the stream, this is the link: https://www.twitch.tv/sc2_zest Also I would say his reason for being demotivated is for all the recent loss he face recently, there's nothing to do with the game itself, and you guys are a bit too quick to jump into conclusion here. It would be hard for anyone if they practice really hard but they couldn't show results in game and Zest is no different. I'm actually surprised to see how you negative you guys are. He just moved on to the Ro8 while 4-0ing Dear!! He's finally streaming after months of promising, and yet what you guys decide to talk about instead is that somehow he's going to quit the game even tho he never so much as imply it. | ||
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Lil_nooblet
United States459 Posts
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