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On April 08 2018 02:31 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2018 21:04 Mun_Su wrote:On April 07 2018 20:01 Caelum93 wrote:On April 06 2018 22:15 Mun_Su wrote:On April 06 2018 19:13 pvsnp wrote:On April 06 2018 18:49 Edpayasugo wrote:
Missed the games but glad to see INno triumph Games were solid but nothing amazing, Rogue just wasn't that impressive tbh (Artosis said it looked like Losira was playing at one point, not Rogue) Still, a win is a win and I'm glad Inno won Same ! herO will be tricky tomorrow It is time for the Great Book of Protoss bullshit There is no player i dislike more than herO (playstyle wise) Ironically, Inno is terrible with fans even though he has a lot of them. There was a story (mooncifer's, iirc) about him making some Chinese fangirl cry because he was so indifferent to her. MMA had to lecture him to fix things.
source? sounds intradasting
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On April 08 2018 02:31 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2018 21:04 Mun_Su wrote:On April 07 2018 20:01 Caelum93 wrote:On April 06 2018 22:15 Mun_Su wrote:On April 06 2018 19:13 pvsnp wrote:On April 06 2018 18:49 Edpayasugo wrote:
Missed the games but glad to see INno triumph Games were solid but nothing amazing, Rogue just wasn't that impressive tbh (Artosis said it looked like Losira was playing at one point, not Rogue) Still, a win is a win and I'm glad Inno won Same ! herO will be tricky tomorrow It is time for the Great Book of Protoss bullshit There is no player i dislike more than herO (playstyle wise) I don't like herO's playstyle very much, but by all accounts he is one of the nicest progamers in person. According to the casters, herO is always cheerful, smiling, etc, and he makes a special effort to interact with the fans. Valdes talked about how after tough Proleague games, herO would be the only one that stayed to talk with fans and sign stuff. Strangely, sOs has a similar reputation in person. The dirtiest scumbag players seem to be the nicest actual people. Ironically, Inno is terrible with fans even though he has a lot of them. There was a story (mooncifer's, iirc) about him making some Chinese fangirl cry because he was so indifferent to her. MMA had to lecture him to fix things.
i know  this is why i make attention to say "playstyle" because he's such a nice guy, but such a bitchy playstyle
Also I also knew the annecdote with MMA it was so fun
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On April 08 2018 05:35 Obamarauder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 02:31 pvsnp wrote:On April 07 2018 21:04 Mun_Su wrote:On April 07 2018 20:01 Caelum93 wrote:On April 06 2018 22:15 Mun_Su wrote:On April 06 2018 19:13 pvsnp wrote:On April 06 2018 18:49 Edpayasugo wrote:
Missed the games but glad to see INno triumph Games were solid but nothing amazing, Rogue just wasn't that impressive tbh (Artosis said it looked like Losira was playing at one point, not Rogue) Still, a win is a win and I'm glad Inno won Same ! herO will be tricky tomorrow It is time for the Great Book of Protoss bullshit There is no player i dislike more than herO (playstyle wise) Ironically, Inno is terrible with fans even though he has a lot of them. There was a story (mooncifer's, iirc) about him making some Chinese fangirl cry because he was so indifferent to her. MMA had to lecture him to fix things. source? sounds intradasting
It was on MMA fanclub here the copy paste
On March 10 2016 08:04 Bagration wrote:TL user mooncifer recounts an experience he had with MMA - xpost from the other thread Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 04:45 mooncifer wrote:XXTN, thanks for this great video. And reading people's love for MMA makes me miss this guy more. He's really the kindest person I've ever known. XXTN, hope you don't mind I share a never told story about MMA here. It was in 2014 IEM Shenzhen. Many Korean players participated in that tournament, including MMA and inno. I was working there too, so I had chances to get closer to them. On the quarterfinals day, there was an inno's fangirl taking 2 hours flight from another city to support him, but unfortunately inno lost. The girl was very sad; what made her more upset was inno's emotionless reaction to her. Btw, I don't think it's inno's right or wrong. It's just his robotic personality. He was truly not excited when facing fans, and didn't know to hide it. That girl cried after inno leaving the studio. Because she picked many gifts and wanted to give to inno another day. It's inno's birthday the next week. But he said he would not be in the studio tomorrow. Anyway, I told MMA about this after dinner, and we laughed like "oh gosh it's just so inno". Then MMA said, "hey, I have a good idea. How about tomorrow we invite that girl to have lunch together?" We three were planning to take a tour the next day, so MMA suggested involving that girl too. And the following words he said I will never forget—— “Off course I will buy her lunch. But, please don't let her know it. Just tell her it is inno buy her food, and say inno want to thanks for her support. I guess it can make her feel better. How do you think about it?” Guys, what else could I think about it, except that he's the nicest boy in the world? I mean, that's even not his fan, just kind of a stranger that he will never meet again. But he also would like to be kind, without taking credit. In case someone is interested, MMA is not a prodigal man. Buying an extra lunch may cost him around $15, which's nearly equal to the taxi fee from GSL studio to his team house. As far as I know, he rarely took the taxi in Seoul. He chose to take the bus all the time, even after 5 hours matches without eating, even when it would take him more than 1 hour on the road, even when it's already around midnight. And it's not the end of that night's lovely story. When I back to that girl, I found she already rescheduled the plane to the next morning, because "I have no reason to stay here if I can't watch him anymore." Oh gosh……And she's so regret. I discussed with MMA again, and he quickly had another great idea, "how about we hold a specific fan meeting for them!^^" There we go. So we four met at the hotel lobby. The girl brought all the carefully chosen gifts there, and inno was well educated by MMA to keep smiling and show gratefulness through the whole meeting. And since they two cannot communicate each other, MMA and I volunteered to interpret —— The girl asked questions in Chinese, then I translated it into English, then MMA translated it into Korean. And after inno answered in Korean, we translated it back. It was an exclusively joyful fan meeting. MMA was very patient in the whole one hour, often joking around to make everyone laugh and relaxed, although later he told me that actually his stomach was not feeling good all the night. But don't worry. MMA was happy too. He's very excited about the fact that he could become a Korean-English translator, lol. Btw, His English was not bad at all, but he's always not confident and was too shy to show it on broadcast. MMA said it's the very first time people trust him to translate (tbh we didn't have other choice at that time, haha), so at the end, he also said thanks to us too. That's MMA. He helped you, but didn't want you feel you owe him. The boy has a heart of gold. He deserves the best in the world. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pjTbZPt.jpg) How can you not miss this guy?
a great story that could be added to OP
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anyone know how to get his vods on pandatv?
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INno just beat Trap then Stats in olimoleague, great play against Stats.
He may have to face his nemesis herO in next round :/
EDIT/ he played so good PvT against herO. It was like it wasn't him
and 3/2 against Impact in very exciting games.
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INno carried Korea in NW5 final!, also it was good to meet him irl
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Even Slumpovation was more than enough to handle the foreigners.
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On April 23 2018 05:52 pvsnp wrote:
Even Slumpovation was more than enough to handle the foreigners.
Is he really in a slump right now though? Sure he dropped fairly early in the first GSL and hasn't been extremely noticeable until recently, but apart from his PvT he looks just as strong as he did last year.
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On April 23 2018 13:07 Orlok wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2018 05:52 pvsnp wrote:
Even Slumpovation was more than enough to handle the foreigners. Is he really in a slump right now though? Sure he dropped fairly early in the first GSL and hasn't been extremely noticeable until recently, but apart from his PvT he looks just as strong as he did last year.
just ignore when people say it, they always do if he didn't win the latest tournament^^
inno will always play at top level and be able to win tournaments until he retires and/or the sc2 esports scene ceases to exist.
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Akina car god,forever the car god.
秋名山上行人稀，
常有车神竞高低。
如今车道依旧在，
不见当年老司机。
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On April 23 2018 23:23 RealityTheGreat wrote:
Akina car god,forever the car god.
秋名山上行人稀，
常有车神竞高低。
如今车道依旧在，
不见当年老司机。
Nice poem!
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Inno was good in a talkshow with the fantastic Hajinsun https://www.twitch.tv/hajinsun
Here the interview + Show Spoiler +WARNINGS: I transcripted for the fun, i'm not pro, and not a good english speaker. don't take it like a pro transcript ^^
In tchat OG-Haz informed that there is in fact 3 NW trophee, so each player has its own.
MMA found his performance worthless
Soo was suprised about the crowd, he thought it would be empty. MMa was touched, Inno is thankful, amazing crowd.
MMA expected more crowd, like in Iron squid
"What it means to you to represent your country ?"
sc2 is individual, i missed team league. Inno: there is no more team ligue, i liked in this tournnament than we can rely on each other. soO : he is lying, i didn't get the feeling that he was relying on us.
MMA: I was chosen by public choice and it is a tournament with the fans. without them sc2 couldn't exist. so thank youu
"did Utherlam and Harstem level surprise you ?"
soO : even if I lost against them, I think actually that uThermal was better before
INno: I think uThermal and Harstem are great. When I saw marc playing agasint MMa and soo I thought he s great
MMA: they've already practiced in Korea so they know how to play against us. we didn't expect uthermal to come first
what do you think about serral level ? close to korean zergs ?
soO: he is really good, the best for, if I had lost against him our team might have lost, but i was better
INno: I thought he would be good but I i'm disappointed. Even MMA could have won against him (lol inno)
then buuuug
Hajin : why you didn't manner mule ?
INno: harstem was next and he is scary
if you had to send 3 players to NW, the strongest, who will they be ?.
MMA: Maru, INno, Byun (then soO instead of Byun, because soO is pouting)
soO: Maru, Stats, Rogue.
Hajin: is Stats stronger than Classic?
soO: i'd rather see Stats than Clascsic caause i would be jalous
INno: MMa soO and INnoVation. This 3 will gonna be in top of ladder next year.
fans don't get to know you... "what are your best memory of all your carreer ?"
MMA: nation wars
INno: this victory of NW.
soO: NW victory moment. Kespa cup also, only tournament i have won
Hajin: and you MMA, with individual tournaments ?
MMA: blizzcon 2d place, 2015
INno: -lol he is looking at his wall of trophies and bring one- my favorite trophy : I won against sOs in the Finals, 2013 (so its his WCS end of season) title
MMA and INno taunted soO: they can't remember with all their victory, it's easier for soO who have just won one.
"If you were going back to childhood and could choose another job, will you go progammer again ?"
INno: progamme again
MMa: too
soO: I wouldn't be a pgm again, I like studying -laugh- I'd would become a prosecutor attorney
Hajin: how do you see the future of sc2 in Korea ?
soO: bright futur, Blizzard love this game. If there are players, i think it will go on !
INno: for me it's the contrary... for a game to live, it ,needs new players.
MMA: honestly, I think it's hard to say. there is a new arcade map, i thinkj Blizzard is trying hard and sc2 will be popular again.
Hajin: anything to say to new player ? how can they enjoy the game ?
MMA: sc2 is a really fun game the more you play. even if it's hard i, the beginning, you can begin by the campagin.
INno: user's maps are funnier to play than 1v1 ladder, it's a hard game. if you play 1 or 2 game per day to enjoy it's good/
soO: my friends didn't watch sc2 before but they came once to the studio to watch, I think if you enjoy watching, you will like playing.
MMA: do they play zerg ?
soO: no cause when they came they soO me lose every time so they don't play zerg. they say you can smoke, you can drink, but don't play zerg.
hajin: if you can go past and change race choice, what race will it be
MMA : protoss
INno: protoss. I would be 1.2 time better than now.
soO: protoss too. easier.
Hajin: what do you think of raven ghost ?
soO: there is nothing to do against that build, even dark is clueless, not just me.nerf terran
INno: I think terrans need a buff. Zerg are just not good to deal with ghost raven
MMA: I don't think terran need nerf. game is balanced, maybe we could change something. but please save terran.
"do you play any other game ?
INno: League of Legends
soO: too
But the best LoL player is... both are saying they are the best.
do something surprised you during your stay in France ?
INno: La bise pour dire bonjour. It's like a cheek kiss, but you touch with both cheek, not real kiss. It surprised INno the most.
MMa: yea same, I'm curious, who invented that, I wish we could do the same in Korea, its better than handshake, more familair.
soO: i was surprised because lot of people of different cultures, are outside together drinking in the evening, it's different korea.we don't see a lot of people drinking outside in the evening.
hajin: inno vs special again, who would win ?
INno: I would win.
SpeCial (yeah he is in the tchat) : LUL. then special said he was lucky to win against inno.
Now let's talk about the players themselves
what's your favorite starcraft unit ?
MMa: medipac
soO: Hydra
INno: didn't understand
if you could have one IRL unit... ?
MMa: Thor for protecting me.
soO: a zergling. a pet.
INno: a medivac, he can be a good friend.
favorite place that you traveled to?
MMa: France
soO: France and Sweden (not sure for sweden)
INno: Shangaï and paris.
Favorite foreign food ?
MMA: it's german pork dishe
soO: hamburger
INno: I like steaks, cause i do a lot of sport and i need protein -LOOOL-
hajin: since arrived in paris, INno immediately asked if they was a gym, he is doing a lot of workout. (omygod this is good stuff xD)
favorite foreign singer ?
MMA: One call away from Charlie Plouss? i can't understand
soO: eren faw ? LM faow ? LMFAO ?
INno: Charlie cooper ? like Mma ? i can't understand lol
Are you famous in Korea ? simple game star, superstar?
MMA: never happened to me, but INno it happened like 5 time, people stop to take photo in the streets.
soO: I think some people recognise me in the street sometimes.
MMA since you went to the army do youhave some advices for the younger ?
Anyway you have to go, so keep good mindset (or something like that)
talking about army, you have to go before 30. soO sill have 2years so it's ok.
Do one of you have a crush on an esport related girl ? oooh not good question because all of them have a girlfriend (oooh i didn't knew that)
liquidthermy (in tchat) : tell innovation i love him.
Hajin: why korean taunt themselve so much, while foreigner don't . have you something fun to say to foreigner ? just like you taunt each others
INno: foreigners are not very good so they need to gather and don't taunt each others.
Korean are so strong they can taunt each other
soO: even if I fcan't win in Korea, abroad I could win easily
MMA: I don't have the level to talk yet. Foreigner are doing great, I hope in next GSL vs The Wolrd it will be better.
Hajin say to inno that marc (uthermal) love him
INno: it's not the case for me, cause he beat me twice at IEM.
liquithermy: shit, I dug my own grave
Hajin: why aren't you more active on social media ?
INno: I don't like them.
then they thanks everyone, MMA liked NW, and liked the talkshow.
soO liked the tournament, he hope there will be more tournament like this.
INno really enjoyed this year, hope to be in next year, thanking everyone involved etc.
Then they laugh about their french "à nous la victoire (to us victory) that they failed to say at NW.
"agio" is a korean term for a gilrl acting like cute (fake cute) and Hajin asked if they had a "agio" in their team and they instantly said "INnoVation"
and its over !
you can notice that he's got some serious workout routine, that his best memory was the win in WCS 2013 against sOs, or that he think that he could have been 1.2 time better if playing protoss 
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On April 26 2018 22:32 Mun_Su wrote:Inno was good in a talkshow with the fantastic Hajinsun https://www.twitch.tv/hajinsunHere the interview + Show Spoiler +WARNINGS: I transcripted for the fun, i'm not pro, and not a good english speaker. don't take it like a pro transcript ^^
In tchat OG-Haz informed that there is in fact 3 NW trophee, so each player has its own.
MMA found his performance worthless
Soo was suprised about the crowd, he thought it would be empty. MMa was touched, Inno is thankful, amazing crowd.
MMA expected more crowd, like in Iron squid
"What it means to you to represent your country ?"
sc2 is individual, i missed team league. Inno: there is no more team ligue, i liked in this tournnament than we can rely on each other. soO : he is lying, i didn't get the feeling that he was relying on us.
MMA: I was chosen by public choice and it is a tournament with the fans. without them sc2 couldn't exist. so thank youu
"did Utherlam and Harstem level surprise you ?"
soO : even if I lost against them, I think actually that uThermal was better before
INno: I think uThermal and Harstem are great. When I saw marc playing agasint MMa and soo I thought he s great
MMA: they've already practiced in Korea so they know how to play against us. we didn't expect uthermal to come first
"what do you think about serral level ? close to korean zergs ?"
soO : even if I lost against them, I think actually that uThermal was better before
INno: I think uThermal and Harstem are great. When I saw marc playing agasint MMa and soo I thought he s great
MMA: they've already practiced in Korea so they know how to play against us. we didn't expect uthermal to come first
what do you think about serral level ? close to korean zergs ?
soO : even if I lost against them, I think actually that uThermal was better before
INno: I think uThermal and Harstem are great. When I saw marc playing agasint MMa and soo I thought he s great
MMA: they've already practiced in Korea so they know how to play against us. we didn't expect uthermal to come first
what do you think about serral level ? close to korean zergs ?
soO: he is really good, the best for, if I had lost against him our team might have lost, but i was better
INno: I thought he would be good but I i'm disappointed. Even MMA could have won against him (lol inno)
then buuuug
Hajin : why you didn't manner mule ?
INno: harstem was next and he is scary
if you had to send 3 players to NW, the strongest, who will they be ?.
MMA: Maru, INno, Byun (then soO instead of Byun, because soO is pouting)
soO: Maru, Stats, Rogue.
Hajin: is Stats stronger than Classic?
soO: i'd rather see Stats than Clascsic caause i would be jalous
INno: MMa soO and INnoVation. This 3 will gonna be in top of ladder next year.
fans don't get to know you... "what are your best memory of all your carreer ?"
MMA: nation wars
INno: this victory of NW.
soO: NW victory moment. Kespa cup also, only tournament i have won
Hajin: and you MMA, with individual tournaments ?
MMA: blizzcon 2d place, 2015
INno: -lol he is looking at his wall of trophies and bring one- my favorite trophy : I won against sOs in the Finals, 2013 (so its his WCS end of season) title
MMA and INno taunted soO: they can't remember with all their victory, it's easier for soO who have just won one.
"If you were going back to childhood and could choose another job, will you go progammer again ?"
INno: progamme again
MMa: too
soO: I wouldn't be a pgm again, I like studying -laugh- I'd would become a prosecutor attorney
Hajin: how do you see the future of sc2 in Korea ?
soO: bright futur, Blizzard love this game. If there are players, i think it will go on !
INno: for me it's the contrary... for a game to live, it ,needs new players.
MMA: honestly, I think it's hard to say. there is a new arcade map, i thinkj Blizzard is trying hard and sc2 will be popular again.
Hajin: anything to say to new player ? how can they enjoy the game ?
MMA: sc2 is a really fun game the more you play. even if it's hard i, the beginning, you can begin by the campagin.
INno: user's maps are funnier to play than 1v1 ladder, it's a hard game. if you play 1 or 2 game per day to enjoy it's good/
soO: my friends didn't watch sc2 before but they came once to the studio to watch, I think if you enjoy watching, you will like playing.
MMA: do they play zerg ?
soO: no cause when they came they soO me lose every time so they don't play zerg. they say you can smoke, you can drink, but don't play zerg.
hajin: if you can go past and change race choice, what race will it be
MMA : protoss
INno: protoss. I would be 1.2 time better than now.
soO: protoss too. easier.
Hajin: what do you think of raven ghost ?
soO: there is nothing to do against that build, even dark is clueless, not just me.nerf terran
INno: I think terrans need a buff. Zerg are just not good to deal with ghost raven
MMA: I don't think terran need nerf. game is balanced, maybe we could change something. but please save terran.
"do you play any other game ?
INno: League of Legends
soO: too
But the best LoL player is... both are saying they are the best.
do something surprised you during your stay in France ?
INno: La bise pour dire bonjour. It's like a cheek kiss, but you touch with both cheek, not real kiss. It surprised INno the most.
MMa: yea same, I'm curious, who invented that, I wish we could do the same in Korea, its better than handshake, more familair.
soO: i was surprised because lot of people of different cultures, are outside together drinking in the evening, it's different korea.we don't see a lot of people drinking outside in the evening.
hajin: inno vs special again, who would win ?
INno: I would win.
SpeCial (yeah he is in the tchat) : LUL. then special said he was lucky to win against inno.
Now let's talk about the players themselves
what's your favorite starcraft unit ?
MMa: medipac
soO: Hydra
INno: didn't understand
if you could have one IRL unit... ?
MMa: Thor for protecting me.
soO: a zergling. a pet.
INno: a medivac, he can be a good friend.
favorite place that you traveled to?
MMa: France
soO: France and Sweden (not sure for sweden)
INno: Shangaï and paris.
Favorite foreign food ?
MMA: it's german pork dishe
soO: hamburger
INno: I like steaks, cause i do a lot of sport and i need protein -LOOOL-
hajin: since arrived in paris, INno immediately asked if they was a gym, he is doing a lot of workout. (omygod this is good stuff xD)
favorite foreign singer ?
MMA: One call away from Charlie Plouss? i can't understand
soO: eren faw ? LM faow ? LMFAO ?
INno: Charlie cooper ? like Mma ? i can't understand lol
Are you famous in Korea ? simple game star, superstar?
MMA: never happened to me, but INno it happened like 5 time, people stop to take photo in the streets.
soO: I think some people recognise me in the street sometimes.
MMA since you went to the army do youhave some advices for the younger ?
Anyway you have to go, so keep good mindset (or something like that)
talking about army, you have to go before 30. soO sill have 2years so it's ok.
Do one of you have a crush on an esport related girl ? oooh not good question because all of them have a girlfriend (oooh i didn't knew that)
liquidthermy (in tchat) : tell innovation i love him.
Hajin: why korean taunt themselve so much, while foreigner don't . have you something fun to say to foreigner ? just like you taunt each others
INno: foreigners are not very good so they need to gather and don't taunt each others.
Korean are so strong they can taunt each other
soO: even if I fcan't win in Korea, abroad I could win easily
MMA: I don't have the level to talk yet. Foreigner are doing great, I hope in next GSL vs The Wolrd it will be better.
Hajin say to inno that marc (uthermal) love him
INno: it's not the case for me, cause he beat me twice at IEM.
liquithermy: shit, I dug my own grave
Hajin: why aren't you more active on social media ?
INno: I don't like them.
then they thanks everyone, MMA liked NW, and liked the talkshow.
soO liked the tournament, he hope there will be more tournament like this.
INno really enjoyed this year, hope to be in next year, thanking everyone involved etc.
Then they laugh about their french "à nous la victoire (to us victory) that they failed to say at NW.
"agio" is a korean term for a gilrl acting like cute (fake cute) and Hajin asked if they had a "agio" in their team and they instantly said "INnoVation"
and its over ! (yeah scrappy recap by me) you can notice that he's got some serious workout routine, that his best memory was the win in WCS 2013 against sOs, or that he think that he could have been 1.2 time better if playing protoss
Great stuff, thanks for translating
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Your welcome, their was some error that i corriged
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great stuff thanks. If only we could add to OP these useful links, the interview, etc
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Thank you for the translation, Mun_Su! It was a quite interesting interview with our Nation Wars V champions.
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You're welcome !
INno did very well in Kung Fu cup ! won 300$, it's good for an online cup and he beat some solid players
 Kung Fu Cup/2018/Weekly/3
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so in the GSL group selection inno got selected last. then he even got switched by maru into a different group since sos begged him to do that, so literally no one wants to play against innovation right now.
that being said, his group is tough but doable
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