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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-17 12:04:27
May 17 2017 12:04 GMT
#1181
Playing the GSL group of death against Inno, aLive and Classic next week on the same day he plays Classic in SSL Challenge. Easy mode.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
May 17 2017 13:27 GMT
#1182
If there is a silver lining, it would be that he avoids zergs. But that is a stupid group.

I'm sure he crushes it and then loses to herO in the Ro8 :/
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
May 17 2017 14:01 GMT
#1183
On May 17 2017 22:27 sneakyfox wrote:
If there is a silver lining, it would be that he avoids zergs. But that is a stupid group.

I'm sure he crushes it and then loses to herO in the Ro8 :/

He would play someone from group A in the Ro8.

Also I'm pretty sure Rogue or Losira would be way easier for him than aLive or Classic.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 17 2017 14:03 GMT
#1184
Well I believe in TY, i think he can beat Innovation and make it first in the group.
Out of all the groups this is probably the hardest though, so gl :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-17 17:05:17
May 17 2017 17:04 GMT
#1185
I can see anyone in his group going 4-0 tbh. So hard to favour him

Although I bet whoever wins between him and Classic will likely lose in their SSL match later than day.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
May 18 2017 11:24 GMT
#1186
On May 17 2017 23:01 Elentos wrote:
He would play someone from group A in the Ro8.

Also I'm pretty sure Rogue or Losira would be way easier for him than aLive or Classic.


Of course you're right - I didn't even check, it was more about the irony of gloriously wininng the group of death, only to fall to something stupid like herO's play.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
May 19 2017 06:59 GMT
#1187
On May 18 2017 02:04 Fango wrote:
I can see anyone in his group going 4-0 tbh. So hard to favour him

Although I bet whoever wins between him and Classic will likely lose in their SSL match later than day.

like herO vs Byun right?
Byun won GSL, herO won SSL
Faker is the GOAT!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 19 2017 23:27 GMT
#1188
On May 19 2017 15:59 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 02:04 Fango wrote:
I can see anyone in his group going 4-0 tbh. So hard to favour him

Although I bet whoever wins between him and Classic will likely lose in their SSL match later than day.

like herO vs Byun right?
Byun won GSL, herO won SSL


Yeah, if you lose to someone in the morning and get rematched that night you gotta get revenge
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 20 2017 06:52 GMT
#1189
TY has a pretty solid shot at advancing from the Group of Death, probably the best shot. He shouldn't have any problems with Classic since his TvP is still the best around, and he's beaten aLive many times before. INnoVation will be the biggest obstacle but even if TY loses his first match he can still advance in second place.

TvT leaves a lot to chance though, so there's no telling what happens next week.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
May 20 2017 15:17 GMT
#1190
So dumb
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 20 2017 16:54 GMT
#1191
Ty proved he has some of the best TvT in the world


Also he's a complete idiot
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
May 20 2017 18:06 GMT
#1192
On May 21 2017 01:54 Fango wrote:
Ty proved he has some of the best TvT in the world


Also he's a complete idiot

I'm pretty sure he has the best if both parties play straight-up. But he straight-up refuses to play safe against hyper-aggressive opponents.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 20 2017 18:25 GMT
#1193
Well either TY learns how to scout sometime this week, or he gets swept out of the Group of Death by 4 cheeses.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
May 20 2017 19:28 GMT
#1194
On May 21 2017 03:25 pvsnp wrote:
Well either TY learns how to scout sometime this week, or he gets swept out of the Group of Death by 4 cheeses.

He doesn't need to learn how to scout, he has to learn to scout at all.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 20 2017 20:07 GMT
#1195
On May 21 2017 04:28 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2017 03:25 pvsnp wrote:
Well either TY learns how to scout sometime this week, or he gets swept out of the Group of Death by 4 cheeses.

He doesn't need to learn how to scout, he has to learn to scout at all.


Or realise he's playing against byuN or herO or anyone who wins cups of pure cheese
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 20:46:05
May 20 2017 20:45 GMT
#1196
Interesting thing that happened: ByuN cheesed on Whirlwind (TY's #1 map) and TY cheesed on Bel'Shir (ByuN's #1 map).

Also I must say, in the 1st game TY just messed up. He got out a hellion and proceeded to lose it to 2 red HP reapers (as in red HP when the hellion came out) without killing either of them. Doesn't matter who micros the reapers, that's inexcusable.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 20 2017 21:20 GMT
#1197
I just rewatched it and that was quite unlucky tbh, he really has to try and kill these there but that one grenade was just perfect.
Though i kinda think he shouldn't have gged there, it was still winnable?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
May 20 2017 21:38 GMT
#1198
On May 21 2017 06:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I just rewatched it and that was quite unlucky tbh, he really has to try and kill these there but that one grenade was just perfect.
Though i kinda think he shouldn't have gged there, it was still winnable?

You can outmicro grenades with a hellion. He just did a poor job. There's no excuse for the hellion to kill neither of them.

Keep in mind TY didn't have all the info. He was gonna have to cancel his natural, and for all he knows, there could already be a natural CC almost done for ByuN, the raxes halfway home and a starport under construction. Perhaps even a 3rd CC. He didn't even know where ByuN had spawned to potentially send a liberator for harass once his own starport was done. It's the exact same position TY put Maru in on Whirlwind in the WESG finals, and that game was a crushing victory for TY. It's a huge deficit and you need your opponent to make a pretty big mistake to be able to catch up.

The GG seemed really early, but it honestly made sense. What doesn't make sense is that he didn't proceed to play safer on smaller maps.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 20 2017 21:51 GMT
#1199
Well yes he doesn't have all the information but he should have a general feeling for what Byun actually can have at this point.
He already started another cc and the tech wasn't bad either. Having the high ground there and a hellion out, i think it would have made sense to try it at least. Dunno
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 22:18:31
May 20 2017 22:09 GMT
#1200
On May 21 2017 06:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Well yes he doesn't have all the information but he should have a general feeling for what Byun actually can have at this point.
He already started another cc and the tech wasn't bad either. Having the high ground there and a hellion out, i think it would have made sense to try it at least. Dunno

Well like I said, he was on the opposite side of this scenario before. I'm sure he was on this side more than he'd like to admit. He knows what's possible for ByuN to have or not have. His tech wasn't bad at the time, but his starport would have barely finished before ByuN's. Without even knowing where ByuN spawned on a 4-player map, he couldn't have had much hope to get any use out of the tech he had.

He also hadn't started another CC at all, the one in the production tab at the end of the game was the old one on the low ground that wasn't building. Sure, there's no way ByuN's going to kill him right now. But give it a few minutes and he'll be massively ahead if he plays properly. We can see that ByuN didn't start a CC, didn't float his barracks home, made extra reapers instead of a starport, got supply blocked, spawned on cross and had no anti-air (meaning a liberator would have rekt his shit).

If TY has all that info, he might stay in the game a bit longer. But I can't say I blame him for leaving after losing 8 SCVs, a bunch of poorly rallied army units, and being forced to cancel his natural all without ever knowing where ByuN even spawned.

I can only blame him for not playing safe, not scouting, not microing properly and misrallying his units
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