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No transgender / gender identity / gender equality talk in this fanclub please.
DarkDragon288
Profile Joined April 2012
United States10 Posts
April 09 2012 18:33 GMT
#1521
Sign me up! Good luck Scarlett in the future
Hi
AdrianHealey
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium480 Posts
April 09 2012 18:35 GMT
#1522
Let me clarify a bit for people who have some trouble understanding transgender issues. Note: I am not a transgender, but are relatively close to someone who is. (It's not that we are BFF, but we used to hang out and still meet up every now and then now she is completely a she - she is very happy now, btw. Everything I know comes from this person and her experiences.)

First of all: a transgender, in the very broad sense of the word, is someone who has a specific sex (a certain biological status; 'female' or 'male'), but has a different gender, i.e. he or she feels like she is the other gender than the sex she/he has.

Being a transgender sucks. There is nothing else to say about it. For those who you who do not understand, let me put it this way. Imagine you are stuck in a girls body, while being a guy. You do not want to hang out with the guys. You are literally a guy - you just like the physical body parts. Imagine that all the time all the guys can stand up and pee, and you have to sit down. But note that you don't start out like this. Oh, no; society has always recognized you as a girl. They expect you to act like a girl, where female clothing, maybe even start dating a guy. And all the while: you are a guy. Can you imagine how that's like? I have not experienced it myself, but I am pretty sure it sucks.

If you have a hard time picturing this, try this. You are a very talend starcraft 2 player. You can probably be one of the best foreigners. You have all the skills you need. However; you have to be dishwasher. Everyone expects you to be a dishwasher. If you even start talking to people that you might want to be a starcraft player they will probably look very weird at you. They will consider you to have a 'mental disease'. (Transgender is still, if I am not mistaken, classified as a mental disease.) And you are not really sure. You know it's abnormal that you want to be a starcraft 2 player. Etc. Does this sound awful to you? Now imagine that in order to really become a sc2 player, you have to go through a long surgery, all kinds of psychiatrists, etc. So really, being a transgender sucks big time.

So for all the *I am really censoring myself here* who think they are tough or whatever and want to keep calling Scarlett a 'he' because she might (or might not) have the physical body of a guy, is like saying to the dishwasher: 'Fuck you, you will never be a sc2 player, and I will always consider you to be just a dishwasher, and you will never be anything else'.

I hope this clarifies why it's a fucking douchebag move to keep calling her a he.

I won't go into analyzing Scarlett (I have neither the expertise, nor the ambition, nor anything of the sort) I hope she can be happy the way she is and I hope SC2 and the SC2 community can help her with that. Let's not, however, think we can replace actual friends and family. Given the way we, as a community, have responded to the haters, I think we are doing pretty good.

She can be my Pimpernell any day of the week. <3
I love.
iwearcapes
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
France157 Posts
April 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#1523
i mean im pan-sexual so this doesn't bother me. haha nice wins vs some very very respectable people,

sign me up forsure!
Zetim
Profile Joined October 2011
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 18:50:38
April 09 2012 18:47 GMT
#1524
On April 10 2012 03:21 ironsoviet wrote:
If there's one thing she can really take from IdrA it's to not take stupid posts in her fanclub seriously. Unfortunate that has to be done but I imagine she can deal with it.

+ Show Spoiler +
That sounds so condescending :x

Nevermind, I completely misread. I'm a dummy
KebertXela
Profile Joined August 2010
United States322 Posts
April 09 2012 18:49 GMT
#1525
Adrian, you are awesome.
Check my last.fm out \\ http://www.last.fm/user/bigbobo1
TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
April 09 2012 18:58 GMT
#1526
So guys just by looking at her recent games on her GM profile, she has gone 23-2 in the games on the first page, from her ladder matches the last couple days. Considering she is currently 6th GM on NA, 23-2 is crazy good!!

Go Scarlett!! Would love to see her playing on the Korean Server and owning more Korean GM players
Maru | DeMusliM | TLO
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
April 09 2012 18:59 GMT
#1527
On April 10 2012 03:35 AdrianHealey wrote:
Let me clarify a bit for people who have some trouble understanding transgender issues. Note: I am not a transgender, but are relatively close to someone who is. (It's not that we are BFF, but we used to hang out and still meet up every now and then now she is completely a she - she is very happy now, btw. Everything I know comes from this person and her experiences.)

First of all: a transgender, in the very broad sense of the word, is someone who has a specific sex (a certain biological status; 'female' or 'male'), but has a different gender, i.e. he or she feels like she is the other gender than the sex she/he has.

Being a transgender sucks. There is nothing else to say about it. For those who you who do not understand, let me put it this way. Imagine you are stuck in a girls body, while being a guy. You do not want to hang out with the guys. You are literally a guy - you just like the physical body parts. Imagine that all the time all the guys can stand up and pee, and you have to sit down. But note that you don't start out like this. Oh, no; society has always recognized you as a girl. They expect you to act like a girl, where female clothing, maybe even start dating a guy. And all the while: you are a guy. Can you imagine how that's like? I have not experienced it myself, but I am pretty sure it sucks.

If you have a hard time picturing this, try this. You are a very talend starcraft 2 player. You can probably be one of the best foreigners. You have all the skills you need. However; you have to be dishwasher. Everyone expects you to be a dishwasher. If you even start talking to people that you might want to be a starcraft player they will probably look very weird at you. They will consider you to have a 'mental disease'. (Transgender is still, if I am not mistaken, classified as a mental disease.) And you are not really sure. You know it's abnormal that you want to be a starcraft 2 player. Etc. Does this sound awful to you? Now imagine that in order to really become a sc2 player, you have to go through a long surgery, all kinds of psychiatrists, etc. So really, being a transgender sucks big time.

So for all the *I am really censoring myself here* who think they are tough or whatever and want to keep calling Scarlett a 'he' because she might (or might not) have the physical body of a guy, is like saying to the dishwasher: 'Fuck you, you will never be a sc2 player, and I will always consider you to be just a dishwasher, and you will never be anything else'.

I hope this clarifies why it's a fucking douchebag move to keep calling her a he.

I won't go into analyzing Scarlett (I have neither the expertise, nor the ambition, nor anything of the sort) I hope she can be happy the way she is and I hope SC2 and the SC2 community can help her with that. Let's not, however, think we can replace actual friends and family. Given the way we, as a community, have responded to the haters, I think we are doing pretty good.

She can be my Pimpernell any day of the week. <3


one of the greatest posts i've ever read on TL. nice insight, thanks for that.
What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros!
RandomRob
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 19:02:10
April 09 2012 18:59 GMT
#1528
Thank you Adrian for explaining that so clearly and with such incredible compassion.

You've pretty much nailed down what the last few years have been like for S.

If she wants to talk more about it, that's her call, but she is very shy (not just in the SC community) and would probably much prefer that we all talk about her play [though I think ultimately it is important the community supports her in what is going to be a rough ride down a rough road. The SC2 community has been simply incredible, much better than we even hoped, but a lot of the world is much less open minded. You folks are completely awesome.]

Back to being a lurker now!

Life is far more interesting than ideal.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
April 09 2012 19:03 GMT
#1529
I totally accept her and I can't ever believe to know what she feels but I hope she can take all the exposure she will get.

In the end of the day she has to be really strong to live a life that certanly will be allot harder because of other people that prefer to offend her then life their own life or change what's so fucking wrong with theirs. Haters gonna hate I guess..

I'm a normal straight guy from good old Portugal so yeah I could probably call you a bunch of names and be really negative or be a nice normal guy and wish you luck like you deserve. I opened up tl.net saw your picture and tought "who is this? is it a girl? what did she do?" checked the iview, then the results and caught a few games of yours and now i'm a fan.

You smashed some faces and did what many seasoned foreign players can't, win games! So yeah good luck and I hope you are strong enought to keep improving and be happy, that's what's most important!

live and let live!
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
PuddingTiger
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom62 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 19:09:58
April 09 2012 19:04 GMT
#1530
On April 10 2012 03:59 Flaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 03:35 AdrianHealey wrote:
Let me clarify a bit for people who have some trouble understanding transgender issues. Note: I am not a transgender, but are relatively close to someone who is. (It's not that we are BFF, but we used to hang out and still meet up every now and then now she is completely a she - she is very happy now, btw. Everything I know comes from this person and her experiences.)

First of all: a transgender, in the very broad sense of the word, is someone who has a specific sex (a certain biological status; 'female' or 'male'), but has a different gender, i.e. he or she feels like she is the other gender than the sex she/he has.

Being a transgender sucks. There is nothing else to say about it. For those who you who do not understand, let me put it this way. Imagine you are stuck in a girls body, while being a guy. You do not want to hang out with the guys. You are literally a guy - you just like the physical body parts. Imagine that all the time all the guys can stand up and pee, and you have to sit down. But note that you don't start out like this. Oh, no; society has always recognized you as a girl. They expect you to act like a girl, where female clothing, maybe even start dating a guy. And all the while: you are a guy. Can you imagine how that's like? I have not experienced it myself, but I am pretty sure it sucks.

If you have a hard time picturing this, try this. You are a very talend starcraft 2 player. You can probably be one of the best foreigners. You have all the skills you need. However; you have to be dishwasher. Everyone expects you to be a dishwasher. If you even start talking to people that you might want to be a starcraft player they will probably look very weird at you. They will consider you to have a 'mental disease'. (Transgender is still, if I am not mistaken, classified as a mental disease.) And you are not really sure. You know it's abnormal that you want to be a starcraft 2 player. Etc. Does this sound awful to you? Now imagine that in order to really become a sc2 player, you have to go through a long surgery, all kinds of psychiatrists, etc. So really, being a transgender sucks big time.

So for all the *I am really censoring myself here* who think they are tough or whatever and want to keep calling Scarlett a 'he' because she might (or might not) have the physical body of a guy, is like saying to the dishwasher: 'Fuck you, you will never be a sc2 player, and I will always consider you to be just a dishwasher, and you will never be anything else'.

I hope this clarifies why it's a fucking douchebag move to keep calling her a he.

I won't go into analyzing Scarlett (I have neither the expertise, nor the ambition, nor anything of the sort) I hope she can be happy the way she is and I hope SC2 and the SC2 community can help her with that. Let's not, however, think we can replace actual friends and family. Given the way we, as a community, have responded to the haters, I think we are doing pretty good.

She can be my Pimpernell any day of the week. <3


one of the greatest posts i've ever read on TL. nice insight, thanks for that.


yeah ditto. It's a shame this is an issue right now but kind of inevitable that it's brought up. Hopefully in a month or two everyone will have educated themselves/gotten over it to the extent that it's not an issue any more
Twicell
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2 Posts
April 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#1531
Add me !!!
I ♥ love girls playing sc2, thats so awesome !!!!
Zelda1721
Profile Joined September 2011
United States25 Posts
April 09 2012 19:15 GMT
#1532
On April 10 2012 03:35 AdrianHealey wrote:
(Transgender is still, if I am not mistaken, classified as a mental disease.)

Thanks for helping sort out the confusion for those who were confused.

But this part, fortunately, isn't true anymore. In a WPATH meeting last year for making revisions of the standards of care for transgendered people: "We've made a clear statement that gender nonconformity is not pathological,". Source: http://www.thegavoice.com/index.php/news/national-news/3497-wpath-announces-new-standards-of-care-for-transgender-and-gender-nonconforming-people
AdrianHealey
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium480 Posts
April 09 2012 19:18 GMT
#1533
On April 10 2012 04:15 Zelda1721 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 03:35 AdrianHealey wrote:
(Transgender is still, if I am not mistaken, classified as a mental disease.)

Thanks for helping sort out the confusion for those who were confused.

But this part, fortunately, isn't true anymore. In a WPATH meeting last year for making revisions of the standards of care for transgendered people: "We've made a clear statement that gender nonconformity is not pathological,". Source: http://www.thegavoice.com/index.php/news/national-news/3497-wpath-announces-new-standards-of-care-for-transgender-and-gender-nonconforming-people


This is awesome news!


I love.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 19:23:58
April 09 2012 19:19 GMT
#1534
Casts are done and up on youtube!

Scarlett (Z) vs ttQQ (Z) bo3
Scarlett (Z) vs Eden (P) bo3
Scarlett (Z) vs Kilos (T) + Scarlett (Z) vs Canti (P) (not the best games)

Will cast more replays as soon as they come.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
April 09 2012 19:22 GMT
#1535
On April 10 2012 04:19 corpuscle wrote:
Casts are done and up on youtube!

Scarlett (Z) vs ttQQ (Z) bo3
Scarlett (Z) vs Eden (P) bo3
Scarlett (Z) vs Kilos (Z) + Scarlett (Z) vs Canti (P) (not the best games)

Will cast more replays as soon as they come.

kilos is a terran player -___- xD guess he felt like offracing on ladder?
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
April 09 2012 19:24 GMT
#1536
On April 10 2012 04:22 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 04:19 corpuscle wrote:
Casts are done and up on youtube!

Scarlett (Z) vs ttQQ (Z) bo3
Scarlett (Z) vs Eden (P) bo3
Scarlett (Z) vs Kilos (Z) + Scarlett (Z) vs Canti (P) (not the best games)

Will cast more replays as soon as they come.

kilos is a terran player -___- xD guess he felt like offracing on ladder?


Nah, I messed up! D:

Fixed label. Also, those games are from a tournament (Playhem Sponsor Me)
From the void I am born into wave and particle
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
April 09 2012 19:26 GMT
#1537
On April 10 2012 04:19 corpuscle wrote:
Casts are done and up on youtube!

Scarlett (Z) vs ttQQ (Z) bo3
Scarlett (Z) vs Eden (P) bo3
Scarlett (Z) vs Kilos (T) + Scarlett (Z) vs Canti (P) (not the best games)

Will cast more replays as soon as they come.


Will add them! It was really fun and great casting!
Looking forward to more replays from Scarlett and casting/watching them together.
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Nightinyou
Profile Joined May 2011
United States59 Posts
April 09 2012 19:28 GMT
#1538
I still don't understand why so much attention is being put towards her gender or sex or anything... Not taking anything away from her accomplishments, but this isn't like weight lifting or something where males have a natural advantage over females. It's a video game, where both sides have an equal shot (even if it doesn't seem like it, which is why video games are so awesome).

Her personal life is her own. Let her keep that. Pay attention to the important thing. We have another North American player with a lot of raw talent, who has had little to no training, and is taking games off top level pros. This is exciting.

Bottom line is she posted amazing results and played amazing games.

That's impressive any way you look at it.
xJonesy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom40 Posts
April 09 2012 19:33 GMT
#1539
Sign me up :D
Respect to her
yea boiiiiiiiii
Dark supplydepo
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden103 Posts
April 09 2012 19:37 GMT
#1540
Just sig nme up now
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