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Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
January 16 2012 01:32 GMT
#3361
On January 16 2012 10:19 W2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 10:05 arterian wrote:
hero just played a really fucking amazing game vs puma with godly harass and positioning. He came dangerously close to losing 3 or 4 times but kept holding on and eventually won with a storm flank. I really feel like hero is the best protoss in the world right now


Well mechanics/micro wise I wouldn't doubt he is right up there. But to be no.1 you better have some GSL results (or trophies, even). And the protosses who do well at GSL always tend to pull out an all in or two every series. I've only seen hero cheese in PvP.

Yeah yeah, I know, it's surprising how less mechanical players can get better results than Hero. There's obviously "soft ceiling" that once you hit it, you're able to pull off wins. As Hero keeps transcending this barrier, we will have to see if he pulls the curve higher along with him, or if luck will keep trumping skill.


Luck isn't trumping his skill. HerO has some weird nerve issues that MANY athletes have. When you're in a game that matter, your brain shuts off. It's weird but it holds back so much talent. The only real way to get around this is to keep playing in tournaments. I think HerO should play in like every online tournament and a lot of offline tournaments to get the experience.

His mechanics are by far the best in the world. When he and PuMa play, their mechanicly sound styles both work well together and make it such an interesting game. Never a build order win, the player who plays better always win.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27185 Posts
January 16 2012 01:59 GMT
#3362
On January 16 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 10:19 W2 wrote:
On January 16 2012 10:05 arterian wrote:
hero just played a really fucking amazing game vs puma with godly harass and positioning. He came dangerously close to losing 3 or 4 times but kept holding on and eventually won with a storm flank. I really feel like hero is the best protoss in the world right now


Well mechanics/micro wise I wouldn't doubt he is right up there. But to be no.1 you better have some GSL results (or trophies, even). And the protosses who do well at GSL always tend to pull out an all in or two every series. I've only seen hero cheese in PvP.

Yeah yeah, I know, it's surprising how less mechanical players can get better results than Hero. There's obviously "soft ceiling" that once you hit it, you're able to pull off wins. As Hero keeps transcending this barrier, we will have to see if he pulls the curve higher along with him, or if luck will keep trumping skill.


Luck isn't trumping his skill. HerO has some weird nerve issues that MANY athletes have. When you're in a game that matter, your brain shuts off. It's weird but it holds back so much talent. The only real way to get around this is to keep playing in tournaments. I think HerO should play in like every online tournament and a lot of offline tournaments to get the experience.

His mechanics are by far the best in the world. When he and PuMa play, their mechanicly sound styles both work well together and make it such an interesting game. Never a build order win, the player who plays better always win.

Agreed, bar that his mechanics are 'by far the best in the world'. He's got a lot of chops in that respect but there are some who trump him in pure mechanical goodness.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 16 2012 02:44 GMT
#3363
i actually agree, heor should do some really timing based all ins. he seems to always stretch it out to a macro game, refusing to just kill his opponent. mix some 7gate blink stalker all ins etc.
Zephyrmist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States13 Posts
January 17 2012 11:25 GMT
#3364
My favorite player :D! Sign me up totally.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
January 17 2012 20:14 GMT
#3365
Amazing games vs puma. Loved it. Keep it up and best of luck in Kiev this weekend!
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
January 17 2012 20:25 GMT
#3366
On January 16 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 10:19 W2 wrote:
On January 16 2012 10:05 arterian wrote:
hero just played a really fucking amazing game vs puma with godly harass and positioning. He came dangerously close to losing 3 or 4 times but kept holding on and eventually won with a storm flank. I really feel like hero is the best protoss in the world right now


Well mechanics/micro wise I wouldn't doubt he is right up there. But to be no.1 you better have some GSL results (or trophies, even). And the protosses who do well at GSL always tend to pull out an all in or two every series. I've only seen hero cheese in PvP.

Yeah yeah, I know, it's surprising how less mechanical players can get better results than Hero. There's obviously "soft ceiling" that once you hit it, you're able to pull off wins. As Hero keeps transcending this barrier, we will have to see if he pulls the curve higher along with him, or if luck will keep trumping skill.


Luck isn't trumping his skill. HerO has some weird nerve issues that MANY athletes have. When you're in a game that matter, your brain shuts off. It's weird but it holds back so much talent. The only real way to get around this is to keep playing in tournaments. I think HerO should play in like every online tournament and a lot of offline tournaments to get the experience.

His mechanics are by far the best in the world. When he and PuMa play, their mechanicly sound styles both work well together and make it such an interesting game. Never a build order win, the player who plays better always win.


It's not only nerves, his play isn't really crisp/refined, or at least doesn't look like it.
When i watch him play, it looks aesthetically nice and pleasant to watch, but it looks like he doesn't follow a gameplan.
He builds a warp prism and then looks what he can do with it for instance.

Watch Genius vs DRG today, and you clearly see a difference in terms of preparations / approach between the games Genius showed and the games we often see Hero play.
That's obviously something he can improve, and something he should, because as many said, his fundamentals are really really good and right up with the best.

I hope he can use his potential to show good results in Korea, because he has a lot.
wat
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
January 19 2012 02:21 GMT
#3367
Good luck in Kiev tomorrow! Hero Fighting! <3
sYnKaotyk
Profile Joined March 2011
United States16 Posts
January 19 2012 02:34 GMT
#3368
On January 18 2012 05:25 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:
On January 16 2012 10:19 W2 wrote:
On January 16 2012 10:05 arterian wrote:
hero just played a really fucking amazing game vs puma with godly harass and positioning. He came dangerously close to losing 3 or 4 times but kept holding on and eventually won with a storm flank. I really feel like hero is the best protoss in the world right now


Well mechanics/micro wise I wouldn't doubt he is right up there. But to be no.1 you better have some GSL results (or trophies, even). And the protosses who do well at GSL always tend to pull out an all in or two every series. I've only seen hero cheese in PvP.

Yeah yeah, I know, it's surprising how less mechanical players can get better results than Hero. There's obviously "soft ceiling" that once you hit it, you're able to pull off wins. As Hero keeps transcending this barrier, we will have to see if he pulls the curve higher along with him, or if luck will keep trumping skill.


Luck isn't trumping his skill. HerO has some weird nerve issues that MANY athletes have. When you're in a game that matter, your brain shuts off. It's weird but it holds back so much talent. The only real way to get around this is to keep playing in tournaments. I think HerO should play in like every online tournament and a lot of offline tournaments to get the experience.

His mechanics are by far the best in the world. When he and PuMa play, their mechanicly sound styles both work well together and make it such an interesting game. Never a build order win, the player who plays better always win.


It's not only nerves, his play isn't really crisp/refined, or at least doesn't look like it.
When i watch him play, it looks aesthetically nice and pleasant to watch, but it looks like he doesn't follow a gameplan.
He builds a warp prism and then looks what he can do with it for instance.

Watch Genius vs DRG today, and you clearly see a difference in terms of preparations / approach between the games Genius showed and the games we often see Hero play.
That's obviously something he can improve, and something he should, because as many said, his fundamentals are really really good and right up with the best.

I hope he can use his potential to show good results in Korea, because he has a lot.


He does seem to be more of a reactionary player that completely changes gameplans along the way to counter whatever his opponent is doing instead of "sticking to his guns". Or maybe he just doesn't have guns to stick to. watching his stream, he never seems to do the same thing, but i guess that's acceptable since it is a stream and not exactly like a "super rigorous practice routine", where he refines builds.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 19 2012 02:38 GMT
#3369
On January 18 2012 05:25 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:
On January 16 2012 10:19 W2 wrote:
On January 16 2012 10:05 arterian wrote:
hero just played a really fucking amazing game vs puma with godly harass and positioning. He came dangerously close to losing 3 or 4 times but kept holding on and eventually won with a storm flank. I really feel like hero is the best protoss in the world right now


Well mechanics/micro wise I wouldn't doubt he is right up there. But to be no.1 you better have some GSL results (or trophies, even). And the protosses who do well at GSL always tend to pull out an all in or two every series. I've only seen hero cheese in PvP.

Yeah yeah, I know, it's surprising how less mechanical players can get better results than Hero. There's obviously "soft ceiling" that once you hit it, you're able to pull off wins. As Hero keeps transcending this barrier, we will have to see if he pulls the curve higher along with him, or if luck will keep trumping skill.


Luck isn't trumping his skill. HerO has some weird nerve issues that MANY athletes have. When you're in a game that matter, your brain shuts off. It's weird but it holds back so much talent. The only real way to get around this is to keep playing in tournaments. I think HerO should play in like every online tournament and a lot of offline tournaments to get the experience.

His mechanics are by far the best in the world. When he and PuMa play, their mechanicly sound styles both work well together and make it such an interesting game. Never a build order win, the player who plays better always win.


It's not only nerves, his play isn't really crisp/refined, or at least doesn't look like it.
When i watch him play, it looks aesthetically nice and pleasant to watch, but it looks like he doesn't follow a gameplan.
He builds a warp prism and then looks what he can do with it for instance.

Watch Genius vs DRG today, and you clearly see a difference in terms of preparations / approach between the games Genius showed and the games we often see Hero play.
That's obviously something he can improve, and something he should, because as many said, his fundamentals are really really good and right up with the best.

I hope he can use his potential to show good results in Korea, because he has a lot.


That sort of preparation is only in the GSL. hero does prepare builds in it but he doesn't play a whole lot in the gsl.

genius vs drg is also a case of teammates.
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
January 19 2012 13:41 GMT
#3370
I wish you good luck tomorrow at IEM Kiev, HerO! Fighting!!
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
January 19 2012 23:22 GMT
#3371
Good luck at IEM tomorrow HerO! gogo!
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
January 19 2012 23:26 GMT
#3372
Good luck HerO! Hope you don't run into any of the lag / PC problems at Kiev and can play your best!
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MjoLniRXx
Profile Joined August 2011
United States84 Posts
January 19 2012 23:36 GMT
#3373
On January 18 2012 05:25 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:
On January 16 2012 10:19 W2 wrote:
On January 16 2012 10:05 arterian wrote:
hero just played a really fucking amazing game vs puma with godly harass and positioning. He came dangerously close to losing 3 or 4 times but kept holding on and eventually won with a storm flank. I really feel like hero is the best protoss in the world right now


Well mechanics/micro wise I wouldn't doubt he is right up there. But to be no.1 you better have some GSL results (or trophies, even). And the protosses who do well at GSL always tend to pull out an all in or two every series. I've only seen hero cheese in PvP.

Yeah yeah, I know, it's surprising how less mechanical players can get better results than Hero. There's obviously "soft ceiling" that once you hit it, you're able to pull off wins. As Hero keeps transcending this barrier, we will have to see if he pulls the curve higher along with him, or if luck will keep trumping skill.


Luck isn't trumping his skill. HerO has some weird nerve issues that MANY athletes have. When you're in a game that matter, your brain shuts off. It's weird but it holds back so much talent. The only real way to get around this is to keep playing in tournaments. I think HerO should play in like every online tournament and a lot of offline tournaments to get the experience.

His mechanics are by far the best in the world. When he and PuMa play, their mechanicly sound styles both work well together and make it such an interesting game. Never a build order win, the player who plays better always win.


It's not only nerves, his play isn't really crisp/refined, or at least doesn't look like it.
When i watch him play, it looks aesthetically nice and pleasant to watch, but it looks like he doesn't follow a gameplan.
He builds a warp prism and then looks what he can do with it for instance.

Watch Genius vs DRG today, and you clearly see a difference in terms of preparations / approach between the games Genius showed and the games we often see Hero play.
That's obviously something he can improve, and something he should, because as many said, his fundamentals are really really good and right up with the best.

I hope he can use his potential to show good results in Korea, because he has a lot.


Define what you mean by crisp/refined? Because every time I watch HerO play, his builds are always executed crisply and cleanly and his mechanics are top notch... how is his play not refined? HerO LOVES the lategame. Just because he doesn't all in so that he can get jiving into his comfort zone doesn't make his play not crisp or refined
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
January 19 2012 23:41 GMT
#3374
Good luck tomorrow / 11 hours^^
Remain calm and destroy them with your awesomeness.
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 19 2012 23:48 GMT
#3375
fighting!
yo
Kenny_oro
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany368 Posts
January 20 2012 17:11 GMT
#3376
[image loading]

GL HF! <3
HerO | TaeJa | Sea | Polt | CranK Fighting!
MjoLniRXx
Profile Joined August 2011
United States84 Posts
January 20 2012 18:25 GMT
#3377
game 3 vs. Dimaga D: D: D: D: HerO is so freaking good.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
January 20 2012 18:26 GMT
#3378
Carriers!
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
January 20 2012 18:27 GMT
#3379
That was so awesome! Good luck keep going! <3
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
January 20 2012 18:35 GMT
#3380
Hero gave us carriers twice. Best player ever, who says he doesn't deliver for his fans? :D
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