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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 09 2012 03:34 GMT
#4061
On March 09 2012 08:03 Lasbike wrote:
He is going to USA, he will be attending Lone Star Clash, IPL 4, MLG Columbus and a showmatch with whitera for 5000$

And he said that it might depend on his results in these tourneys if he will continue as a progamer for another year or start his studies this year.
He also said that quitting is more likely atm.
Off-season = best season
Black17
Profile Joined October 2011
France435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 09:31:47
March 09 2012 09:31 GMT
#4062
On March 09 2012 12:20 ulan-bat wrote:
I've been doing some stats on Stephano based on TLPD recently and I'd like some feedback on what his fans would like to see.
Here is the kind of stats I've done so far:

Match record
. Win-rate overall and per match-up
. Best/Worst streak overall and per match-up

Opponents (at least 10 games played)
. Easiest (winrate > 65)
. Even (winrate between 45 and 55)
. Hardest (winrate < 35)

Maps (same as opponents but ... with maps!)

Some of those stats are already available on TLPD for the whole history of the player. Here I propose to do stats from a certain date, during or from a certain patch, etc.

Here is what I got for Stephano, taking all games from january 2012:

+ Show Spoiler +

Win rate: 73.5% (108-39)
. vT: 66.7% (36-18)
. vP: 84.2% (48-9)
. vZ: 66.7% (24-12)
Streaks: best 16 - worst 4
. vT: best 10 - worst 5
. vP: best 29 - worst 2
. vZ: best 7 - worst 2
Easy opponents:
. ThorZaIN (T) 70.0% (7-3)
Hard opponents:
. Polt (T) 33.3% (4-8)
Easy maps:
. Metalopolis 1.1 86.7% (13-2)
. Daybreak 84.2% (16-3)
. Antiga Shipyard 1.2 76.0% (19-6)
. The Shattered Temple 1.1 68.8% (11-5)


This is just for january, right ? Seems odd to me that he took 4 games off Polt in January, but definitely possible. However in his last results it was more like au 1-6 w/l ratio (1-4 in Assembly, then 0-2 in MSI #7.

I think a comparison of his results against foreigners vs his results vs koreans would also be interesting. But nice job anyway
FoBoTheBush
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden41 Posts
March 09 2012 12:25 GMT
#4063
SIGN ME UP!!!
idrA " if you put all the greatest foreigners in a team they could definitely compete with the Koreans"
Shoset
Profile Joined December 2011
France4 Posts
March 09 2012 13:26 GMT
#4064
Sign me up !
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 09 2012 13:50 GMT
#4065
Apparently MC was interviewed at IEM and he said that DRG and Stephano 'are almost the same'. Not seen it yet myself, but it just backs up the high opinion of Stephano recently given by Nestea. No doubt the Stephano haters will attempt to twist MC's words to claim MC was talking about music taste or sense of humour rather than SC2 ability.
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
March 09 2012 14:20 GMT
#4066
On March 09 2012 18:31 Black17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 12:20 ulan-bat wrote:
I've been doing some stats on Stephano based on TLPD recently and I'd like some feedback on what his fans would like to see.
Here is the kind of stats I've done so far:

Match record
. Win-rate overall and per match-up
. Best/Worst streak overall and per match-up

Opponents (at least 10 games played)
. Easiest (winrate > 65)
. Even (winrate between 45 and 55)
. Hardest (winrate < 35)

Maps (same as opponents but ... with maps!)

Some of those stats are already available on TLPD for the whole history of the player. Here I propose to do stats from a certain date, during or from a certain patch, etc.

Here is what I got for Stephano, taking all games from january 2012:

+ Show Spoiler +

Win rate: 73.5% (108-39)
. vT: 66.7% (36-18)
. vP: 84.2% (48-9)
. vZ: 66.7% (24-12)
Streaks: best 16 - worst 4
. vT: best 10 - worst 5
. vP: best 29 - worst 2
. vZ: best 7 - worst 2
Easy opponents:
. ThorZaIN (T) 70.0% (7-3)
Hard opponents:
. Polt (T) 33.3% (4-8)
Easy maps:
. Metalopolis 1.1 86.7% (13-2)
. Daybreak 84.2% (16-3)
. Antiga Shipyard 1.2 76.0% (19-6)
. The Shattered Temple 1.1 68.8% (11-5)


This is just for january, right ? Seems odd to me that he took 4 games off Polt in January, but definitely possible. However in his last results it was more like au 1-6 w/l ratio (1-4 in Assembly, then 0-2 in MSI #7.

I think a comparison of his results against foreigners vs his results vs koreans would also be interesting. But nice job anyway



I second this. good job and i'd like to see a comparison against what Koreans have done. If you do that, because Koreans don't play as often, maybe you could look at his stats over a three month horizon rather than a one month one.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
March 09 2012 14:21 GMT
#4067
On March 09 2012 22:50 revel8 wrote:
Apparently MC was interviewed at IEM and he said that DRG and Stephano 'are almost the same'. Not seen it yet myself, but it just backs up the high opinion of Stephano recently given by Nestea. No doubt the Stephano haters will attempt to twist MC's words to claim MC was talking about music taste or sense of humour rather than SC2 ability.


That's a pretty big compliment given that DRG may be the best player in the world at the moment. I'm sure some would disagree with MC's take, but I don't
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 14:27:38
March 09 2012 14:26 GMT
#4068
On March 09 2012 22:50 revel8 wrote:
Apparently MC was interviewed at IEM and he said that DRG and Stephano 'are almost the same'. Not seen it yet myself, but it just backs up the high opinion of Stephano recently given by Nestea. No doubt the Stephano haters will attempt to twist MC's words to claim MC was talking about music taste or sense of humour rather than SC2 ability.


You got a link for that Interview?

On March 09 2012 23:21 The_Darkness wrote:
That's a pretty big compliment given that DRG may be the best player in the world at the moment. I'm sure some would disagree with MC's take, but I don't


There ZvP actually look alot alike. DRG just plays abit more around with Mutas. But DRG ZvT is miles ahead of Stephano atm
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 09 2012 14:42 GMT
#4069
On March 09 2012 23:26 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 22:50 revel8 wrote:
Apparently MC was interviewed at IEM and he said that DRG and Stephano 'are almost the same'. Not seen it yet myself, but it just backs up the high opinion of Stephano recently given by Nestea. No doubt the Stephano haters will attempt to twist MC's words to claim MC was talking about music taste or sense of humour rather than SC2 ability.


You got a link for that Interview?

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:21 The_Darkness wrote:
That's a pretty big compliment given that DRG may be the best player in the world at the moment. I'm sure some would disagree with MC's take, but I don't


There ZvP actually look alot alike. DRG just plays abit more around with Mutas. But DRG ZvT is miles ahead of Stephano atm


I have no link but it was discussed in the IEM Day 4 thread (Friday's thread).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=318828&currentpage=30
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
March 09 2012 17:12 GMT
#4070
On March 09 2012 23:26 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 22:50 revel8 wrote:
Apparently MC was interviewed at IEM and he said that DRG and Stephano 'are almost the same'. Not seen it yet myself, but it just backs up the high opinion of Stephano recently given by Nestea. No doubt the Stephano haters will attempt to twist MC's words to claim MC was talking about music taste or sense of humour rather than SC2 ability.


You got a link for that Interview?

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:21 The_Darkness wrote:
That's a pretty big compliment given that DRG may be the best player in the world at the moment. I'm sure some would disagree with MC's take, but I don't


There ZvP actually look alot alike. DRG just plays abit more around with Mutas. But DRG ZvT is miles ahead of Stephano atm



DRG's zvt is definitely better than Stephano's although I think the changes Stephano needs to make are tweaks rather than large changes. (Polt suggested his weaknesses lie in his late game transitions; that seems to make some sense to me.) I'm not saying you're doing this, but people have tended to overstate his struggles v T given that Stephano just crushed Puma and was ahead in two of the four games he lost against Polt. That said, DRG is still much better than Stephano at the match up.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 09 2012 17:31 GMT
#4071
The point is that Stephano didn't train his TvZ for a very very very long time (also due to the lack of good Terrans players in EU) whereas DRG can practice it every day with the best Terran players in the world . I don't think there is any comparisons that can be made between this two players atm . Maybe later if Stephano go back to Korea in april or if he finds a good Terran player to practice his ZvT .
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
March 09 2012 17:43 GMT
#4072
Look at this vidéo fan-made just amazing about Stephano, the next ipl in Las Vegas

Stephano and IPL4
Anktious
Profile Joined September 2010
United States190 Posts
March 09 2012 18:02 GMT
#4073
Is anyone else going to the showmatch this weekend? I'm driving down there tonight :D


Should be a good time
On January 23 2009 04:38 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I hate it when i sit at my computer and post on this forum when suddenly my dick launches out of my pants and makes me type incorrectly.. starts mashing ont h legnskzsnmklbf oh fuck there we go again.
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 18:05:31
March 09 2012 18:04 GMT
#4074
On March 10 2012 02:43 Acertos wrote:
Look at this vidéo fan-made just amazing about Stephano, the next ipl in Las Vegas

Stephano and IPL4


Thats one of the most incredible fan made video I ever seen. IGN shoudl give him a job

On March 10 2012 03:02 Anktious wrote:
Is anyone else going to the showmatch this weekend? I'm driving down there tonight :D


Should be a good time


Lucky bastard meeting Stephano and White-ra might be the coolest thing ever
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 18:22:55
March 09 2012 18:18 GMT
#4075
On March 10 2012 03:04 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 02:43 Acertos wrote:
Look at this vidéo fan-made just amazing about Stephano, the next ipl in Las Vegas

Stephano and IPL4


Thats one of the most incredible fan made video I ever seen. IGN shoudl give him a job

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 03:02 Anktious wrote:
Is anyone else going to the showmatch this weekend? I'm driving down there tonight :D


Should be a good time


Lucky bastard meeting Stephano and White-ra might be the coolest thing ever


Not going to be in Texas, but my wife and I will be at IPL4 in Las Vegas :D Can't wait.

Stephano, White-Ra and MKP :D

If I were starting a team, I'd take those 3 :D

Dawg_Snow
Profile Joined September 2011
France425 Posts
March 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#4076
Nice video and nice music !
Stephano, Sarens, Tarson, Mana, MMA, MVP -- Dawg EU Master Terran
remodemo
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany120 Posts
March 09 2012 20:24 GMT
#4077
does anybody know when exactly the showmatch between white ra and stephano is? the yt video said 9th&10th of march O.o
Black17
Profile Joined October 2011
France435 Posts
March 09 2012 22:26 GMT
#4078
On March 10 2012 05:24 remodemo wrote:
does anybody know when exactly the showmatch between white ra and stephano is? the yt video said 9th&10th of march O.o


Saturday evening 0h CET, or Sunday morning as you want :p
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
March 10 2012 00:35 GMT
#4079
On March 09 2012 23:20 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 18:31 Black17 wrote:
On March 09 2012 12:20 ulan-bat wrote:
I've been doing some stats on Stephano based on TLPD recently and I'd like some feedback on what his fans would like to see.
Here is the kind of stats I've done so far:

Match record
. Win-rate overall and per match-up
. Best/Worst streak overall and per match-up

Opponents (at least 10 games played)
. Easiest (winrate > 65)
. Even (winrate between 45 and 55)
. Hardest (winrate < 35)

Maps (same as opponents but ... with maps!)

Some of those stats are already available on TLPD for the whole history of the player. Here I propose to do stats from a certain date, during or from a certain patch, etc.

Here is what I got for Stephano, taking all games from january 2012:

+ Show Spoiler +

Win rate: 73.5% (108-39)
. vT: 66.7% (36-18)
. vP: 84.2% (48-9)
. vZ: 66.7% (24-12)
Streaks: best 16 - worst 4
. vT: best 10 - worst 5
. vP: best 29 - worst 2
. vZ: best 7 - worst 2
Easy opponents:
. ThorZaIN (T) 70.0% (7-3)
Hard opponents:
. Polt (T) 33.3% (4-8)
Easy maps:
. Metalopolis 1.1 86.7% (13-2)
. Daybreak 84.2% (16-3)
. Antiga Shipyard 1.2 76.0% (19-6)
. The Shattered Temple 1.1 68.8% (11-5)


This is just for january, right ? Seems odd to me that he took 4 games off Polt in January, but definitely possible. However in his last results it was more like au 1-6 w/l ratio (1-4 in Assembly, then 0-2 in MSI #7.

I think a comparison of his results against foreigners vs his results vs koreans would also be interesting. But nice job anyway



I second this. good job and i'd like to see a comparison against what Koreans have done. If you do that, because Koreans don't play as often, maybe you could look at his stats over a three month horizon rather than a one month one.


These numbers are based on games from january, february and a bit of march, but there serve only as an exemple. A more sensible time period would be either patch by patch or 3 to 6 months horizon. I'll do it.

What do you think about the easy/even/hard classification btw? Is a minimum of 10 games enough? Are the limits (<35% winrate for easy, etc) well placed?

Regarding the stats against koreans I'll have to consider the country of origin of the players, which I've not done so far so it could take some time to do. Comparing stats between two players if easy enough though.
"Short games, shorts, summer weather, those things bring the heat!" - EG.iNcontroL
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
March 10 2012 09:28 GMT
#4080
I hope Stephano's trip to the US with will be sucessfull. No offense to whitera but he should win the showmatch at least. Concerning the other tournament i'm afraid he will hit a wall against Korean terrans. I don't think you can win a major tournament if you're not confident against Korean terrans.
But who knows, it's Stephano and anything is possible.
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