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00Visor
4337 Posts
.But if he wants to start studying, I will respect this. | ||
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Psyclon
Bulgaria2443 Posts
Nobody is making Ilyes quit, it is his own decision. From all the interviews i've read or listened to i can assume that he is just not that into the game - he says that he plays 2-3 hours per day, that he doesn't watch any SC2 content and that he just wants to earn as much money as possible within a certain period (let's say 1 year). Maybe he never expected to earn so much in so little time. Maybe the ~ 80k he earned so far is enough for whatever he is planning to do. Or maybe he was just trolling us hard when he said he was quitting. Calling him "retarded" for making such decision is simply immature. Anyway, one thing is for sure - he is very talented, he is very entertaining to watch and he will be missed, if he leaves the scene. I'll be very interested to see sth like an official statement by him in the coming days. | ||
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Satire
Canada295 Posts
On January 16 2012 10:00 SaoPaulo wrote: People here are just too dumb to "get it". It`s not about getting more money. OF COURSE being a doctor would give more money than being a pro-player (in general), but what if the person likes the excitement to play tournaments? the feeling of pure adrenaline, the fear of losing to someone due to competition, the fame, the winning parte, the odds to win by doing something very diffrent? Im sure white-ra is a pro-gamer not because of money, but he simply LIKES it and enjoys his whole life. Let me tell u a story between Grubby and Creo. For those who dont know Warcraft 3, Grubby used to be the best player of the western world (which means the same can be applied to Stephano nowadays), and once, during his prime of the game, he said he would quit. He didnt, because he loved the game. Creo, a misterious guy who were in the same team as Grubby, was also getting a lot of fame and playing really good. He managed to win WCG (beating the best players in the world, like Moon and Grubby) and simply stopped playing, at the age of 20 or something. He said he would only win a major tournament (like WCG, probably the biggest one in WC3) and stop playing. He did that. But at what cost? Now he`s a computer scientist, working for some company in Norway. Sure, I bet he likes his job a lot, but I DOUBT he is happier than winning a WCG or playing WC3L finals against Lucifer, Moon, Susiria and getting paid by 4K. Now imagine how much more money Creo would get after the WCG, but the guy simpled stopped playing just because he wouldn`t like to delay his "real career".. I still think Stephano is doing a stupid decision. He is in the prime of his life, and myself, being at the same age as him, envy a lot the fact he`s a pro-gamer and he`s doing something he likes. And yea, I do go to college, but I honestly prefer the adrenaline of playing then studying Calculus so later my boss can kick my ass. Sorry guys, its simple not a good decision at all. I would agree if he went to college when he`s like 22, 24 years old, but 19, 20? Come on, the kid has a lot of talent, he`ll be able to make a lot of money. And not to mention the pure adrenaline of playing, which is, at least for me, something that we need to consider (it seems that you are thinking "one side" only). Maybe i am getting of my chest by telling u guys this, sry about my horrible english, but anyway, people saying Stephano is being smart is actually the opposite. Maybe I just dont like the mundane people. I just compare Grubby to Creo, and I probably see that Grubby made a wiser choice than Creo... Even though I agree with TotalBiscuit that is better for someone to do college and then invest in his own hobbies and stuff like that, but clearly that worked out perfectly for TB, but I do not think it would be a good idea for Stephano, at least in the point where he is now (as a beast), or Grubby.. The thesis of your argument pretty much argues against itself. You say people should do what makes them happy, and then you assume that SC2 makes Stephano happier than going to school would. While you may or may not be right, it's really not your call to assume you know what's best for Stephano. Let the kid do what he wants. I love music and love spending my free time playing and learning different instruments and songs. I even have a gift for music in general. It doesn't mean that I want to do that with my life or as a career. If Stephano really loved the game and was passionate about it, he'd probably play fore more than 3 hours a day.  Just enjoy the style and the innovation that he brings to the game while it lasts."The calls of admirers, who claim they adore. Drain all your lifeblood while begging for more." All the best in the future Stephano; wherever life may take you. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
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Black17
France435 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 16 2012 10:15 BoBiNoU wrote: I dont want to bring your hopes down but if Stephano attends first year of medical school next year he will no longer be playing at all. The first year is the most demanding studies you can find in the french school system. I'd be glad to have a word with you regarding this :p I know a lot of friends who passed their first year while playing/going out a lot. It's more of a rigourous work than intellectual stimulating one, so you can do it in a short amount of time if you remember things fast. Stephano might very well still have time to play his 2-3 hours a day in fact. | ||
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watchman
8 Posts
But i'm currently a french anesthesiologist (31 years old) and i play sc2 for fun (high gold low platinum ). First of all, medical school is 6 years long; after your first 6 years, you are resident in the speciality you chose from the exam you had at the end of these six years. (you choose the city and the speciality from your rank). A residency is between 4 and 5 years long of which you can add a couple more years for university stuff. After all this journey you are officially a medicine doctor (thesis) . So this is pretty long obv BUT: the tooughest years are the first one (which you can do twice if you didn't succeed the first time) and the sixth one. During these two years, you will have to work A LOT: it means morning at university and afternoon plus night at home. Knowing that the exam at the end of first year is not an exam (you'll have to rank good, not only getting average) you just don't have time to do something else even if you're a genius. Of course he'll have time to spend a few hours to play sc2 but your entire mind is in the medicine at that moment so you are not able to play competively at all. Beside that, you get new friends, life, etc... which are really far from esport world. I can assure you that sc2 is not played by a lot of doctors in france... So... gonna be pretty tough toplay competively sc2 for stephano. What i think about stopping sc2 is that he only should do whatever he wants to do (and what he's being told). Actually first year only demand a lot of boring work (a lot of stuff to learn) and any previous knowledge. He could easily wait for x years before going into it; however getting later in medicine is, i think, more difficult in the way that you're in a continuous path just going after high school. When you stop after high school, getting back is a lot harder... but not impossible. I hope i made my point clearly enough.. and.....COME ON Stephano, you made me like zerg. | ||
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KainiT
Austria392 Posts
To earn that much per year(which I assume is about 100k) as a doctor is not very likeley until your about ten years in a hospital or have your own doctor's office. Maybe you earn a bit more in France, but I dont think that the difference is very big. So the remaining possible reasons for him wanting to start studying are: his family wants him too he wants it himself, because he just wants to be a doctor rather than a progamer I guess it's a combination of both. | ||
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TheLunaticMonk
Finland36 Posts
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Railgan
Switzerland1510 Posts
On January 17 2012 01:44 KainiT wrote: To earn that much per year(which I assume is about 100k) as a doctor is not very likeley until your about ten years in a hospital or have your own doctor's office. A Doctor earns easily 150k http://www.the-travel-nurse.com/doctor_best_salaries.html can go up to 400k | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
Again, pure conjecture, but just imagine what parents of young and upcoming SC2 players think about it, because I'm sure they have a strong voice in the decision. Many times the SC2 scene doesn't represent itself favorably against a quality university environment. | ||
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KainiT
Austria392 Posts
On January 17 2012 02:31 Sclol wrote: A Doctor earns easily 150k http://www.the-travel-nurse.com/doctor_best_salaries.html can go up to 400k your source is about doctors in the U.S, I have looked up my numbers at a german site, which is certainly much more valid for the situation in france. Furthermore you gotta keep in mind that he wont earn anything while he studies, and even after that you dont have a very good income for the first years as assistance doc. | ||
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SaoPaulo
Brazil62 Posts
On January 16 2012 16:00 Satire wrote: The thesis of your argument pretty much argues against itself. You say people should do what makes them happy, and then you assume that SC2 makes Stephano happier than going to school would. While you may or may not be right, it's really not your call to assume you know what's best for Stephano. Let the kid do what he wants. I love music and love spending my free time playing and learning different instruments and songs. I even have a gift for music in general. It doesn't mean that I want to do that with my life or as a career. If Stephano really loved the game and was passionate about it, he'd probably play fore more than 3 hours a day. Just enjoy the style and the innovation that he brings to the game while it lasts."The calls of admirers, who claim they adore. Drain all your lifeblood while begging for more." All the best in the future Stephano; wherever life may take you. Im saying there`s a line between doing what makes you happy and what gives you money. For Stephano, it`s pretty much obvious he likes SC2 and all the money he gets from the game. I`m also saying it`s a dumb decision to give up for the game when he is pretty much the best non-korean player. Why not play for more than 2 years? He is 18, christ`s sake... He can go to med. school after he`s 20... It`s a personal opinion..People here tend to say he doesn`t like SC2, but come on... go to liquipedia, search for his page.. He`s a progamer since he`s 14... He used to play WC3 all the time, and SC2 is even better for him, it fits perfectly for his passive-agressive-micro style... Im pretty sure he likes the game and he`ll probably regret for giving up for a game that he still can play for another year. I mean, he`s winning, right? When he starts to lose, then its probably a good decision to go to college.. Since SC2 is unpredictable, perhaps in a few years (case Stephano keeps playing) someone will be better than him, so... | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
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Melissandre
3 Posts
On January 17 2012 04:09 dsousa wrote: what could a mother think after HSC? So...I blame Rotterdam, because he embodies all that is lued and crued about the Sc2 scene. "Wow, my 19 years old teenage son has been drunk, i will never allow that happen again" Command, some people are making some things bigger around stephano than they really represent, it means nothing. He is an amazing player but I think, because he grows up, that he is a bit fed up with video games and just want to move on. | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On January 17 2012 05:25 Melissandre wrote: "Wow, my 19 years old teenage son has been drunk, i will never allow that happen again" Command, some people are making some things bigger around stephano than they really represent, it means nothing. He is an amazing player but I think, because he grows up, that he is a bit fed up with video games and just want to move on. That part was a big dramatic I agree :D lol My point is just generally that esports doesn't create a stable consistent environment, like a quality university and then career can. | ||
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Lasbike
France2888 Posts
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Huckleuro
United Kingdom294 Posts
If he was a leading player in sc2 (im talking, one of the dominant 5) then maybe hed rethink for a few years. His international tourny results have died off since his breakthrough now that people know his style. What is to say hell even make 50k this year? Good decision. | ||
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KainiT
Austria392 Posts
On January 17 2012 06:35 Huckleuro wrote: What is all the drama about? He wants to study, so hell study. If he was a leading player in sc2 (im talking, one of the dominant 5) then maybe hed rethink for a few years. His international tourny results have died off since his breakthrough now that people know his style. What is to say hell even make 50k this year? Good decision. 50k would still make him the 5th succesfull foreigner if 2012 foreigners earn as much as 2011^^ | ||
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Black17
France435 Posts
Nice showmatch bo9 vs WhiteRa ! First place will receive $4,000, and second place will receive $1,000 ! | ||
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