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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 12 2011 03:30 GMT
#1981
On December 12 2011 12:27 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 12:02 SarcasmMonster wrote:
In a rare, illuminating interview with ThisIsGame, Mvp revealed his upbringing in a poor family which made the potential monetary rewards of pro-gaming all the more important.


Does anyone know the source of the interview?

the interview

It's in Korean btw, I wish I had the permission to translate it to you guys, it's very interesting, although it's a bit old(April 27th)


Thanks anyways ^_^
MMA: The true King of Wings
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 12 2011 03:49 GMT
#1982
I think had MVP won MLG and the most recent GSL the fans would have a stronger bonjwa arguement since domination in starcraft translates to first place finishes in all the big tournaments, at least that's what I'm getting from BW fanboys.

Nevertheless, MVP is undeniably the best starcraft 2 player in the world currently. He'll have to finish below someone consistently for that to change, but no-one is consistently a higher finisher than him currently.

So regardless of Blizzard Cup results: congrats MVP. You are, in my eyes, the best player of 2011 in Starcraft 2 hands down.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
danzhang
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada184 Posts
December 12 2011 04:01 GMT
#1983
I predict MVP to come top 4 in blizz cup. He cant win every time
IMMVP
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 04:13:21
December 12 2011 04:12 GMT
#1984
On December 12 2011 05:41 Asmodeusz wrote:
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On December 11 2011 20:29 Skwid1g wrote:
If you actually look at the win-rates you'll see that MVP is basically close to/passing most of the bonjwa's win-rates during their dominant periods. I'm not much of an MVP fan but I hate when people use this argument to say SC2 is "coin-flippy."

MVP has ~70% win-rate overall, Flash has about a 72% win-rate overall. Obviously it's not a perfect comparison as they are facing completely different opponent's (Flash's being of much higher skill for the most part) but still.


Nestea have only 1% lower win-rate and DRG have actually higher win-rate than MVP.

Win rates is only part of the equation... DRG hasn't really accomplished anything.

He did well in the GSTL but that's not in the same league as the individual tournaments.
jtrex
Profile Joined January 2011
Japan94 Posts
December 12 2011 07:20 GMT
#1985
On December 12 2011 12:27 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 12:02 SarcasmMonster wrote:
In a rare, illuminating interview with ThisIsGame, Mvp revealed his upbringing in a poor family which made the potential monetary rewards of pro-gaming all the more important.


Does anyone know the source of the interview?

the interview

It's in Korean btw, I wish I had the permission to translate it to you guys, it's very interesting, although it's a bit old(April 27th)

Please translate this.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
December 12 2011 07:56 GMT
#1986
On December 12 2011 13:01 danzhang wrote:
I predict MVP to come top 4 in blizz cup. He cant win every time

The hardest will be overcoming the group stages due to his little practice time. If he does this i think he has a big shot at winning


Also sign me up dunno why i wasent signed up to this
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
December 12 2011 09:29 GMT
#1987
MVP will win.

Guys, we need to BELIEVE.
secret - never again
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
December 12 2011 09:34 GMT
#1988
On December 12 2011 12:49 bittman wrote:
I think had MVP won MLG and the most recent GSL the fans would have a stronger bonjwa arguement since domination in starcraft translates to first place finishes in all the big tournaments, at least that's what I'm getting from BW fanboys.

Nevertheless, MVP is undeniably the best starcraft 2 player in the world currently. He'll have to finish below someone consistently for that to change, but no-one is consistently a higher finisher than him currently.

So regardless of Blizzard Cup results: congrats MVP. You are, in my eyes, the best player of 2011 in Starcraft 2 hands down.


i don't think really valid arguments exist at all in the bonjwa matter. MVP wins 50% or more of the tournaments he enters... i think that sufficed to make a bonjwa in bw (plus all the "succeeding during the dark times of a race, showing new ways blah blah might not all be fitting for him but he certainly is dominating and that's the main thing imo). by any standard he is undoubtedly the best player in sc2, by far. a tier above Nestea. if a sc2 bonjwa would exist, it's certainly him

but people love the bonjwa myth, they love bw history and lore and nostalgia, they love savior, the more competitive scene, etc. it's rather the unwillingness to use the word in terms of starcraft 2 since it's a fairly new game, in most of bw fans/players' mind it's not a worthy successor to brood war and even though i enjoy playing/watching sc2 i think it's a worse game too.

we should make up a funky sounding title for him. like the gjharhwahin of sc2;)
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
December 12 2011 09:38 GMT
#1989
He just beat MC decisively in Blizz Cup, looking very strong at the moment, but one of the casters mentioned he only left Busan last night, meaning he's had no time to practice properly.
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VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
December 12 2011 09:40 GMT
#1990
MC is so 5 seasons ago. Nice job by MVP! Was impressed with the Observer sniping.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
SnetteL
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Belgium473 Posts
December 12 2011 09:45 GMT
#1991
On December 12 2011 18:34 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 12:49 bittman wrote:
I think had MVP won MLG and the most recent GSL the fans would have a stronger bonjwa arguement since domination in starcraft translates to first place finishes in all the big tournaments, at least that's what I'm getting from BW fanboys.

Nevertheless, MVP is undeniably the best starcraft 2 player in the world currently. He'll have to finish below someone consistently for that to change, but no-one is consistently a higher finisher than him currently.

So regardless of Blizzard Cup results: congrats MVP. You are, in my eyes, the best player of 2011 in Starcraft 2 hands down.


i don't think really valid arguments exist at all in the bonjwa matter. MVP wins 50% or more of the tournaments he enters... i think that sufficed to make a bonjwa in bw (plus all the "succeeding during the dark times of a race, showing new ways blah blah might not all be fitting for him but he certainly is dominating and that's the main thing imo). by any standard he is undoubtedly the best player in sc2, by far. a tier above Nestea. if a sc2 bonjwa would exist, it's certainly him

but people love the bonjwa myth, they love bw history and lore and nostalgia, they love savior, the more competitive scene, etc. it's rather the unwillingness to use the word in terms of starcraft 2 since it's a fairly new game, in most of bw fans/players' mind it's not a worthy successor to brood war and even though i enjoy playing/watching sc2 i think it's a worse game too.

we should make up a funky sounding title for him. like the gjharhwahin of sc2;)


I think you should reread the savior article.
Caps lock is cruise control for cool.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
December 12 2011 10:16 GMT
#1992
Going Mech against Zerg is just a terrible idea. I hope he's saving his bio play for Stephano.
secret - never again
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
December 12 2011 10:19 GMT
#1993
He needs to win every match from now and he should get first in group.

DRG is frightening against T though.
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namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
December 12 2011 10:34 GMT
#1994
On December 12 2011 19:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
He needs to win every match from now and he should get first in group.

DRG is frightening against T though.


As long as he's not the 4th or 5h, everything is cool. Three will advance.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
December 12 2011 10:55 GMT
#1995
Mvp just all-in'd HerO and won on Antiga, pretty reasonable tbh, Antiga is heavily Protoss favoured.
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
December 12 2011 11:00 GMT
#1996
Well I didn´t know DRG was playing T...

MVP got this.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
December 12 2011 11:46 GMT
#1997
MVP shows why mass lings doesnt work!
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
December 12 2011 11:47 GMT
#1998
If DRG and MVP go 3-1, who will be first?
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 11:50:06
December 12 2011 11:49 GMT
#1999
Pretty straightforward today =)

Loved seeing him break out the old 2 rax into 2fac blue flame builds vs Stephano. Such a smart choice and I've not seen that build get much use lately.

Shame he dropped a map to DRG, mech on cross pos TDA really was an odd choice.

On December 12 2011 20:47 Aunvilgod wrote:
If DRG and MVP go 3-1, who will be first?


DRG has the head 2 head record so he'd be first. Need MC to win for MVP to place #1 (it would also put Stephano through)
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
December 12 2011 11:49 GMT
#2000
Impresive mind game vs Stephano on Shakuras !
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