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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
Fact is, I don't think SC2 will ever be a game like SC1 where one person can utterly dominate the way savior, etc. did. I hope I'm wrong, but I highly doubt I will be. If you know about those eras in BW you'd realize why everyone wants to avoid all this bonjwa stuff. I mean hell, MVP is 20x the better player than the players he faced in the ro16 and 8 but he still almost lost those series. | ||
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Rykros
483 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On December 11 2011 16:15 Luepert wrote: Although MVP hasn't been CONSIDERED the best player for all of 2011, he obviously was. Every slump had an almost coincident victory, fall to code a: WC, loss to mma: Blizzcon. I hate how people rarely called him the best at his race like they did for MC and Nestea even though he put up far superior results than either of them the entire year. Widespread terran hatred among casters, fans and fan favorites have led to an EXTREMELY hard rode to recognition for MVP. At one point there was a poll on TL for gsl August, huk was ahead of MVP by roughly 20% despite being eliminated BY MVP. MVP didnt take the lead untill it was only him and top left. I remember a hilarious comment by wolf in the gsl the shows the utter ignorance that leads to MVP underrating, When MVP was being Nestea in the GSL, he said "This is potentially one of the greatest upsets in the gsl history" Despite the fact that at the time MVP had 2 gsls and an mlg to Nestea's 3 gsls and THEY HAD PLAYED 3 SERIES'S PREVIOUSLY IN THE GSL ALL RESULTING IN MVP VICTORIES. LMFAO, yeah I nearly fell out of my chair when I heard that from Wolf/DoA, so much so that I let them know what I thought of such comments via twitter  . And yeh the anti terran bias from most casters and fans make it much more difficult for him to gain popularity/recognition. He said himself that most people in Korea dislike him because he's terran | ||
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XuLLHuK
Russian Federation88 Posts
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MildSeven
Canada311 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Yet another title =) | ||
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ForTheDream
Germany1780 Posts
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SupremeMe
Sweden227 Posts
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
MVP FIGHTING!!! I'm like on a total high now. Was away all day, had to wait with trembling for the results. So happy for our man Mvp!!!!! | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On December 11 2011 16:24 Rykros wrote: Just watched them. I am sooooooooooooooo happy for Mvp - he looks so overjoyed. Also so manner in calling up his fellow Kr progamers supernova and MarineKing to share in Korean pride. So happy for him, really hope he can continue to be so meek, so dominating and so baller.The Vod of grand final between Mvp and Xigua is up at www.gomtv.net :D made my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
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tallyhohugo
98 Posts
On December 11 2011 20:10 Micket wrote: Hopefully soon, most people will realise that Terran is the hardest race and MVP can get some recognition he deserves! Outside GSL, Terran is awful. All the more reason to be wowed by how good MVP is. i love MVP. but i wouldnt go so far as to say terran is the hardest race. i'm pretty sure zugg is tougher to play well. that being said, MVP is better than da rest :D GO MVP FOR BLIZZCUP | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On December 11 2011 16:22 Itsmedudeman wrote: Terran competition has always been larger than protoss or zerg until recently. Also, there was a period of about a month or two where MVP wasn't getting good results and got knocked out in the ro32 again in July. Fact is, I don't think SC2 will ever be a game like SC1 where one person can utterly dominate the way savior, etc. did. I hope I'm wrong, but I highly doubt I will be. If you know about those eras in BW you'd realize why everyone wants to avoid all this bonjwa stuff. I mean hell, MVP is 20x the better player than the players he faced in the ro16 and 8 but he still almost lost those series. If you actually look at the win-rates you'll see that MVP is basically close to/passing most of the bonjwa's win-rates during their dominant periods. I'm not much of an MVP fan but I hate when people use this argument to say SC2 is "coin-flippy." MVP has ~70% win-rate overall, Flash has about a 72% win-rate overall. Obviously it's not a perfect comparison as they are facing completely different opponent's (Flash's being of much higher skill for the most part) but still. On December 11 2011 20:10 Micket wrote: Hopefully soon, most people will realise that Terran is the hardest race and MVP can get some recognition he deserves! Outside GSL, Terran is awful. All the more reason to be wowed by how good MVP is. At that level there really is no hardest race. But yes, at lower levels that is true, but it was the same in BW. | ||
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
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CoolSea
United States236 Posts
I also don't understand why people are so obsessed with the "bonjwa" term. From what I remember, it was really only used for sAviOr when the fans called him "MaBonjwa" and it was later retroactively applied to BoxeR, NaDa, iloveoov. As far as I am concerned it's a BW term and it should stay that way. Mvp is a sickly good player and I think we should just leave it at that. | ||
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