EPTMvp Fan Club - Page 97
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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naux
Canada738 Posts
On December 11 2011 15:01 kiy0 wrote: Undisputed best Terran in the world and undeniably the first Bonjwa in Starcraft 2. i agree he is the first bonjwa of starcraft 2 how can anybody else argue that his not | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On December 11 2011 15:01 kiy0 wrote: Undisputed best Terran in the world and undeniably the first Bonjwa in Starcraft 2. Maybe to you, but I don't consider him Bonjwa for consistently beating up foreign slouches and ex b-teamers. He is undeniably the best player and by far the most consistent but he hasn't shown true dominance like any of the past bonjwas. Compare his accomplishments to what every bonjwa has done and it still pales in comparison. And because GSL is a monthly league, only winning three in a calender year just doesn't cut it (Flash made every final and won four in 2010, WCG, Winner's League and Proleague). Congratulations to MVP for being by far the best player of 2011 and GL in the Blizzard Cup. | ||
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Esk23
United States447 Posts
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Griffith`
714 Posts
but MVP has already dropped games in recent GSLs | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 11 2011 15:11 Griffith` wrote: A player has to completely rape face of every major tournament for over 1.5 years to 2 years to be considered a bonjwa but MVP has already dropped games in recent GSLs That won't happen I'm afraid. It's a lot easier to get upsets in sc2 than sc1. There's also a lot more tournaments. | ||
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David451
United States491 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On December 11 2011 15:11 Griffith` wrote: A player has to completely rape face of every major tournament for over 1.5 years to 2 years to be considered a bonjwa but MVP has already dropped games in recent GSLs This really isn't the case. None of the 5 bonjwas in BW history dominated for that long and that completely. They all lost games here and there and had notable non-1st place finishes. All that mattered was that the player was unrivalled in the scene and it was reflected in the results (not always winning all but making deep runs in most). Declaration of the title is just fickle that's all. | ||
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David451
United States491 Posts
On December 11 2011 15:11 Griffith` wrote: A player has to completely rape face of every major tournament for over 1.5 years to 2 years to be considered a bonjwa but MVP has already dropped games in recent GSLs Oh for FUCK sake, stop moving the goal posts. MVP is Bonjwa, deal with it. BW can suck a dick. Your misguided nostalgia can suck a dick (all the BW Bonjwas dropped games and tournaments here and there). MVP has had Flash-like performance for a year now. Suck it. User was warned for this post | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
MVP is very, very consistent, but there have been periods in the year where not only was he not considered the best player but not even the best of his race. | ||
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NipponBanzai
Canada518 Posts
On December 11 2011 15:21 David451 wrote: Oh for FUCK sake, stop moving the goal posts. MVP is Bonjwa, deal with it. BW can suck a dick. Your misguided nostalgia can suck a dick (all the BW Bonjwas dropped games and tournaments here and there). MVP has had Flash-like performance for a year now. Suck it. User was warned for this post This is not a good thing to say on team liquid lol. | ||
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Enearde
France265 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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TidusX.Yuna
United States239 Posts
 Bonjwa though.... Nah.He's easily the best player in sc2 right now but the title of Bonjwa requires something more. A type of domination that we just haven't seen yet in sc2. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
WCG Champion: It wouldn't have been right if anyone else won it  On to the Blizzard Cup Now! | ||
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Madder
Australia427 Posts
On December 11 2011 15:21 David451 wrote: Oh for FUCK sake, stop moving the goal posts. MVP is Bonjwa, deal with it. BW can suck a dick. Your misguided nostalgia can suck a dick (all the BW Bonjwas dropped games and tournaments here and there). MVP has had Flash-like performance for a year now. Suck it. User was warned for this post Misguided nostalgia? Might as well call all of this 'Bonjwa' stuff misguided nostalgia then with that mindset. | ||
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LMPeaches
United States157 Posts
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
On December 11 2011 15:26 setzer wrote: There wasn't a single point in 2010 where Flash wasn't considered the best player and that goes for Savior as well when he was dominating. Even though both loss on occasion (happens to everyone), they were still able to go to final after final. Savior went to 5 consecutive MSLs + OSL and Flash made every final possible in 2010. That is a level of domination we have not seen yet in SC2. MVP is very, very consistent, but there have been periods in the year where not only was he not considered the best player but not even the best of his race. Although MVP hasn't been CONSIDERED the best player for all of 2011, he obviously was. Every slump had an almost coincident victory, fall to code a: WC, loss to mma: Blizzcon. I hate how people rarely called him the best at his race like they did for MC and Nestea even though he put up far superior results than either of them the entire year. Widespread terran hatred among casters, fans and fan favorites have led to an EXTREMELY hard rode to recognition for MVP. At one point there was a poll on TL for gsl August, huk was ahead of MVP by roughly 20% despite being eliminated BY MVP. MVP didnt take the lead untill it was only him and top left. I remember a hilarious comment by wolf in the gsl the shows the utter ignorance that leads to MVP underrating, When MVP was being Nestea in the GSL, he said "This is potentially one of the greatest upsets in the gsl history" Despite the fact that at the time MVP had 2 gsls and an mlg to Nestea's 3 gsls and THEY HAD PLAYED 3 SERIES'S PREVIOUSLY IN THE GSL ALL RESULTING IN MVP VICTORIES. | ||
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