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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Shame, was hoping he'd get #1 for the bye, he needs to get a bit of rest sometime. | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
Very likely his Ro6 will be a TvT or TvZ though unless Naniwa impresses, so that's something  | ||
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Veclada
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On December 12 2011 18:45 SnetteL wrote: I think you should reread the savior article. i remember it pretty well, i don't really see why you would tell that iirc a bonjwa needs to win a few starleagues/consecutive etc, needs to dominate the scene, do so at the race's dark times etc etc. note that these actually aren't some kind of factual rules, the writer of the article had nice fantasy and wrote an article that is awesome to read but it's not some kind of knowledge carved into stone. people love this kind of shit and MVP kinda qualifies as the most dominant/consecutive wins which is the most important about a bonjwa, doesn't he. terran won't have dark days ever anyway and i'm too lazy to look the other criteria up that was 50% guessed up by a random bw fan who wrote an article about savior. mvp just isn't a bonjwa cuz we don't use that word in sc2. remembering every single word that that guy wrote about being a bonjwa doesn't make you cool, and since it's not factual knowledge a linguist would just tell you that the word's meaning is what most people believe it is (language is that funky nowadays). i don't necessarily agree with that but guess what to 90% of people here bonjwa means the dominating player, which covers a part of it's meaning, and MVP is the dominating player. but my point kinda was that he shouldn't be called bonjwa cuz ppl don't like to use that word in terms of sc2 | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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SnetteL
Belgium473 Posts
On December 13 2011 00:51 msjakofsky wrote: i remember it pretty well, i don't really see why you would tell that iirc a bonjwa needs to win a few starleagues/consecutive etc, needs to dominate the scene, do so at the race's dark times etc etc. note that these actually aren't some kind of factual rules, the writer of the article had nice fantasy and wrote an article that is awesome to read but it's not some kind of knowledge carved into stone. people love this kind of shit and MVP kinda qualifies as the most dominant/consecutive wins which is the most important about a bonjwa, doesn't he. terran won't have dark days ever anyway and i'm too lazy to look the other criteria up that was 50% guessed up by a random bw fan who wrote an article about savior. mvp just isn't a bonjwa cuz we don't use that word in sc2. remembering every single word that that guy wrote about being a bonjwa doesn't make you cool, and since it's not factual knowledge a linguist would just tell you that the word's meaning is what most people believe it is (language is that funky nowadays). i don't necessarily agree with that but guess what to 90% of people here bonjwa means the dominating player, which covers a part of it's meaning, and MVP is the dominating player. but my point kinda was that he shouldn't be called bonjwa cuz ppl don't like to use that word in terms of sc2 Well, I didn't play broodwar and wasn't involved in the scene. But each bonjwa has a distinct feel to him, not good results alone. Even if one sc2 player would have won every possible tournament up until now I'm afraid he still wouldn't be a real bonjwa... MVP is one of the best players in the scene for sure (maybe the best, I'm not to judge) but I think he misses the feel the BW bonjwa's have. edit: but we shouldn't make this a bonjwa discussion | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:23 SnetteL wrote: Well, I didn't play broodwar and wasn't involved in the scene. But each bonjwa has a distinct feel to him, not good results alone. Even if one sc2 player would have won every possible tournament up until now I'm afraid he still wouldn't be a real bonjwa... MVP is one of the best players in the scene for sure (maybe the best, I'm not to judge) but I think he misses the feel the BW bonjwa's have. edit: but we shouldn't make this a bonjwa discussion hehe absolutely anyways,ppl were going around calling mc, nestea bonjwa when they had 2 gsl wins. MVP clearly surpassed that, and not just slightly.for a few months he's been such a dominating force in sc2 that it is absolutely unmatched. the whole game lacks something to have such a great story around one player/playstyle as saviors or oovs... but we have a player now who has 5x the wins as everyone else and is the clear favorite in every single tournament he enters. i'm not even a rabid fan of him, but i recognize true power;) | ||
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Cynthesis
United States22 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On December 13 2011 07:30 SeaSwift wrote: MVP is utterly dominant, but SC2 should come up with its own mythos and legends surrounding players instead of relying on tired old BW cliches. I just googled this. Bonjwa's not even a legit Korean word -_-;; Which means it is up to TL to create a label for dominating players like Mvp. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On December 13 2011 07:36 Seeker wrote: I just googled this. Bonjwa's not even a legit Korean word -_-;; Which means it is up to TL to create a label for dominating players like Mvp. Banjo's. Done. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
I like his nickname of "The Final Boss". That's my personal "bestplayerintheworld" status since I'm a game dev and I only think in game terms haha. So until I see someone who is more of a final boss, MVP is the final boss. Besides, I prefer to think of MVP as Magikarp / Gyarados thanks to his opened mouth, whereas final boss can become another player at some point...maybe... | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On December 13 2011 10:01 bittman wrote: I like his nickname of "The Final Boss". That's my personal "bestplayerintheworld" status since I'm a game dev and I only think in game terms haha. So until I see someone who is more of a final boss, MVP is the final boss. Besides, I prefer to think of MVP as Magikarp / Gyarados thanks to his opened mouth, whereas final boss can become another player at some point...maybe... I think some BW peeps will have some issues with calling MVP the final boss.. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 13 2011 05:30 Shellshock1122 wrote: You are the best MVP!!! No big deal about the DRG game. You'll get him back later. You can win this tourney!!! Most Valuable Player 2011 IMO he should get most valuable player 2011 no matter what. Nobody has been as dominant as him but I am rooting for MVP to win this blizzcup because its just so nice to see dominant players  | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On December 13 2011 10:01 bittman wrote: I like his nickname of "The Final Boss". That's my personal "bestplayerintheworld" status since I'm a game dev and I only think in game terms haha. So until I see someone who is more of a final boss, MVP is the final boss. Besides, I prefer to think of MVP as Magikarp / Gyarados thanks to his opened mouth, whereas final boss can become another player at some point...maybe... Hmm yea...if you think sc1 players have an issue with bonjwa, think again before using the final boss haha. | ||
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kineticSYN
United States909 Posts
people are overlooking the most important one... MVP he lives up to the name, day in and day out. and because of that, i feel the term is twice as strong than just being called mvp for whatever reason people have played off of it as well, such as: the mvp of protoss the mvp of zerg the fuckin mvp bonjwa, final boss, magikarp, etc. cool names, but seriously guys! mvp needs no other term, he's established with his own in every way | ||
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