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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 22 2013 23:18 GMT
#8441
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skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
May 22 2013 23:40 GMT
#8442
On May 23 2013 08:18 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 08:05 nmetasch wrote:
On May 23 2013 07:26 Agathon wrote:
On May 23 2013 07:18 nmetasch wrote:
On May 23 2013 07:17 Sated wrote:
On May 23 2013 07:10 GuanaMana wrote:
yet another disappointing decision by Naniwa.

It's pretty annoying. He plays so well and then does something like this... T_T


What happened??


He forfeited the final of a Numericable M-House Cup qualifier, by Millenium, 400€ + free trip in southern France in 2 weeks. He had to play vs Top, EU vs KR = NA, and he refused to play in NA.



Well thats a rather shitty compromise, eu gets over twice the lag to NA servers that korea does first off, and its a european tournament second off, so why are they accommodating korean players like that?

Because it's their tournament and they get to decide the rules.

I have no idea what the lag situation is.

Well the guy you quoted didn't question their authority to make that decision. The question is wether it's the right decision.
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
May 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#8443
it saddens me whenever i try to interact with my real fans that i have to read the shit stupid haters write, can you guys just stop posting and go somewhere else instead? it doesnt give anything good to me or to you. just alot of hatred for no important reason. I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do. its my choice and not yours. Either you agree or you dont. either way you dont have to say it. I just didnt feel like it made any sense. so therefor instead of whining i chose to forfeit. is it better that i play and complain? i dont think so.
Progamer
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 22 2013 23:59 GMT
#8444
On May 23 2013 08:43 Naniwa wrote:
it saddens me whenever i try to interact with my real fans that i have to read the shit stupid haters write, can you guys just stop posting and go somewhere else instead? it doesnt give anything good to me or to you. just alot of hatred for no important reason. I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do. its my choice and not yours. Either you agree or you dont. either way you dont have to say it. I just didnt feel like it made any sense. so therefor instead of whining i chose to forfeit. is it better that i play and complain? i dont think so.


You did the right thing here I feel. Its an European tournament no reason why you should put yourself in more disadvantage then you opponent. If Koreans wants to play in a EU tournament they can play from Korea to EU or just not sign up if they don't want to play with lag.

Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
May 22 2013 23:59 GMT
#8445
On May 23 2013 08:40 skyrunner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 08:18 Sated wrote:
On May 23 2013 08:05 nmetasch wrote:
On May 23 2013 07:26 Agathon wrote:
On May 23 2013 07:18 nmetasch wrote:
On May 23 2013 07:17 Sated wrote:
On May 23 2013 07:10 GuanaMana wrote:
yet another disappointing decision by Naniwa.

It's pretty annoying. He plays so well and then does something like this... T_T


What happened??


He forfeited the final of a Numericable M-House Cup qualifier, by Millenium, 400€ + free trip in southern France in 2 weeks. He had to play vs Top, EU vs KR = NA, and he refused to play in NA.



Well thats a rather shitty compromise, eu gets over twice the lag to NA servers that korea does first off, and its a european tournament second off, so why are they accommodating korean players like that?

Because it's their tournament and they get to decide the rules.

I have no idea what the lag situation is.

Well the guy you quoted didn't question their authority to make that decision. The question is wether it's the right decision.


I won't debate on this topic in a fan club. I think you shouldn't either.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 00:16:04
May 23 2013 00:15 GMT
#8446
On May 23 2013 08:43 Naniwa wrote:
it saddens me whenever i try to interact with my real fans that i have to read the shit stupid haters write, can you guys just stop posting and go somewhere else instead? it doesnt give anything good to me or to you. just alot of hatred for no important reason. I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do. its my choice and not yours. Either you agree or you dont. either way you dont have to say it. I just didnt feel like it made any sense. so therefor instead of whining i chose to forfeit. is it better that i play and complain? i dont think so.


Since when being a fan means "treat you as god without having any critic or question"? Your fans are humans you know, they think, they have their own opinions and point of views. And while being your best fans, they can disagree with you from time to time.

Just my 2 cents.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
GL999et1000
Profile Joined December 2012
France229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 00:34:18
May 23 2013 00:33 GMT
#8447
On May 23 2013 08:43 Naniwa wrote:
I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do.


A european tournament? Bullshit. Nobody said it was an european qualifier played on EU server...
And you are speaking about your fans but what do you think that your french fans are thinking right now? They are upset and disappointed. I am upset and disappointed. You was wrong on that point. I can understand that you hate playing with lags but if you had a bit of respect for your french fans, for tourney's administrator, for players that you have beaten, you would have accepted to play cause you should have known the rules before competing.
P: PartinG,Rain,sOs | T: Dream, Maru,Fantasy | Z: Life, SoO, Leenock | Micro for the win! | Warcraft 3 always in my heart !
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 01:25:15
May 23 2013 00:42 GMT
#8448
On May 23 2013 09:33 GL999et1000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 08:43 Naniwa wrote:
I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do.


A european tournament? Bullshit. Nobody said it was an european qualifier played on EU server...
And you are speaking about your fans but what do you think that your french fans are thinking right now? They are upset and disappointed. I am upset and disappointed. You was wrong on that point. I can understand that you hate playing with lags but if you had a bit of respect for your french fans, for tourney's administrator, for players that you have beaten, you would have accepted to play cause you should have known the rules before competing.



Nvm.

its a mistake of me to ever post here. its better i let everyone have their opinions of me so everyone can make up their alternate reality i guess. gl hf guys. i will be less active in here now ^^ since it doesnt give anything good for anybody
Progamer
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 23 2013 00:58 GMT
#8449
On May 23 2013 08:43 Naniwa wrote:
it saddens me whenever i try to interact with my real fans that i have to read the shit stupid haters write, can you guys just stop posting and go somewhere else instead? it doesnt give anything good to me or to you. just alot of hatred for no important reason. I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do. its my choice and not yours. Either you agree or you dont. either way you dont have to say it. I just didnt feel like it made any sense. so therefor instead of whining i chose to forfeit. is it better that i play and complain? i dont think so.

I think people just really wanted to see you destroy TOP and qualify for the offline part of the event. You were so close and everyone wanted to see you participating in that tournament, since the last tournament held by Millenium in their team house in Marseille was amazing and we just wanted to see you play in it

Anyway, good luck against Tefel tomorrow!
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
May 23 2013 01:00 GMT
#8450
On May 23 2013 09:42 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 09:33 GL999et1000 wrote:
On May 23 2013 08:43 Naniwa wrote:
I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do.


A european tournament? Bullshit. Nobody said it was an european qualifier played on EU server...
And you are speaking about your fans but what do you think that your french fans are thinking right now? They are upset and disappointed. I am upset and disappointed. You was wrong on that point. I can understand that you hate playing with lags but if you had a bit of respect for your french fans, for tourney's administrator, for players that you have beaten, you would have accepted to play cause you should have known the rules before competing.



Nvm.

i explained my point of view. I dont play to get peoples support. i play because i love the game, i love the competition .you seem to think i owe something to the players i beat or the tournaments. They dont give me anything unless i win. if the players who i beat dont like it then they should get better and not lose to me. this world is not a charity unless you are an american player ofcourse. then you dont have to be good to get fans and money.


Lol i could not have said it better myself. Keep on being awesome and smack some polish ass tomorrow.

Alltho from my point of view (being one of your most loyal fans) -> Their decision to put you on the NA server was stupid, however 400$ and a free trip to france isnt too bad. Also you would get the chance to show everyone else how much better you are. And i would have another bunch of matches to enjoy. Anyho, im not here to tell you how to act or what decisions to make. But if it was me i would have atleast tried it and perhaps gained alot by it.
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
GuanaMana
Profile Joined October 2012
United States71 Posts
May 23 2013 01:18 GMT
#8451
On May 23 2013 10:00 Fizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 09:42 Naniwa wrote:
On May 23 2013 09:33 GL999et1000 wrote:
On May 23 2013 08:43 Naniwa wrote:
I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do.


A european tournament? Bullshit. Nobody said it was an european qualifier played on EU server...
And you are speaking about your fans but what do you think that your french fans are thinking right now? They are upset and disappointed. I am upset and disappointed. You was wrong on that point. I can understand that you hate playing with lags but if you had a bit of respect for your french fans, for tourney's administrator, for players that you have beaten, you would have accepted to play cause you should have known the rules before competing.



Nvm.

i explained my point of view. I dont play to get peoples support. i play because i love the game, i love the competition .you seem to think i owe something to the players i beat or the tournaments. They dont give me anything unless i win. if the players who i beat dont like it then they should get better and not lose to me. this world is not a charity unless you are an american player ofcourse. then you dont have to be good to get fans and money.


Lol i could not have said it better myself. Keep on being awesome and smack some polish ass tomorrow.

Alltho from my point of view (being one of your most loyal fans) -> Their decision to put you on the NA server was stupid, however 400$ and a free trip to france isnt too bad. Also you would get the chance to show everyone else how much better you are. And i would have another bunch of matches to enjoy. Anyho, im not here to tell you how to act or what decisions to make. But if it was me i would have atleast tried it and perhaps gained alot by it.


yup thats why im disappointed. Less Naniwa because of losing is fine and dandy but Less Naniwa because of forfeit makes me a sad faniwa
Be a good boy
xluik
Profile Joined September 2012
201 Posts
May 23 2013 01:19 GMT
#8452
Good luck naniwa for tomorrow..
Gothic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden122 Posts
May 23 2013 06:20 GMT
#8453
To those who are complaining, consider this. It's my impression that Naniwa gets affected a lot when playing conditions aren't optimal. It's possible that he gets affected more than others, and since he's vocal about it as well, he gets lots of criticism thrown his way anytime he's in a tournament with less than optimal settings and he says something about it.

So, listen to what he actually said just now. Better to forfeit than to play and complain. Knowing himself, he decides to avoid another such situation. Of course out of concern for himself, but perhaps also out of concern for his fans as he knows people don't like "whining". So to me right now it just seems that no matter what he does, someone gets offended.

Guys, just relax and realize that we're dealing with a human being here, a normal guy with feelings and motivations and needs just like everyone else. He just happens to be frickin good at Starcraft. Drop your egoistical needs and stop being offended when he for some reason decides not to play in "your" favourite tournament. There will be other chances to see Naniwa play. Or at least there will be as long as we support him like true fans.

Good luck today Naniwa, I hope you get to show your best against Tefel!
In the age of the internet, attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy. - Benjamin Franklin
WaGGlez
Profile Joined June 2011
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 07:28:09
May 23 2013 07:27 GMT
#8454
On May 23 2013 09:42 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 09:33 GL999et1000 wrote:
On May 23 2013 08:43 Naniwa wrote:
I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do.


A european tournament? Bullshit. Nobody said it was an european qualifier played on EU server...
And you are speaking about your fans but what do you think that your french fans are thinking right now? They are upset and disappointed. I am upset and disappointed. You was wrong on that point. I can understand that you hate playing with lags but if you had a bit of respect for your french fans, for tourney's administrator, for players that you have beaten, you would have accepted to play cause you should have known the rules before competing.



Nvm.

its a mistake of me to ever post here. its better i let everyone have their opinions of me so everyone can make up their alternate reality i guess. gl hf guys. i will be less active in here now ^^ since it doesnt give anything good for anybody

Don't pay attention to him Naniwa. He's probably not even a fan and just want's to start drama.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 23 2013 08:39 GMT
#8455
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TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
May 23 2013 09:15 GMT
#8456
On May 23 2013 17:39 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 08:43 Naniwa wrote:
it saddens me whenever i try to interact with my real fans that i have to read the shit stupid haters write, can you guys just stop posting and go somewhere else instead? it doesnt give anything good to me or to you. just alot of hatred for no important reason. I just didnt feel like playing on USA in a european tournament when i knew that korea has way better ping on US than i do. its my choice and not yours. Either you agree or you dont. either way you dont have to say it. I just didnt feel like it made any sense. so therefor instead of whining i chose to forfeit. is it better that i play and complain? i dont think so.

For some of us, it's because we're fans that this stuff frustrates us. We want to see you crushing nerd skulls, not forfeiting games. That's all.


Don't worry about that.

Tonight he will play in WCS Challenger EU to get back to Premiere League. Tefel better be prepared!
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
May 23 2013 16:57 GMT
#8457
I am so glad Nani is playing TODAAY! )
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
May 23 2013 17:27 GMT
#8458
Good luck tonight NaNi
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
May 23 2013 17:30 GMT
#8459
Good luck Naniwa!
It's good to be back
AccoWand
Profile Joined November 2012
354 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 17:38:14
May 23 2013 17:33 GMT
#8460
gl vs. Tefel. Hoping to get a glimpse of dat sweet PvZ build order.
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