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On October 04 2012 13:03 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 13:00 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 12:57 sertman wrote:Because it's absolutely and utterly impossible for people to grow up, especially after a nearly career ending incident. Get real dude. What? That video is from months ago. Sandstorm is attempting to use that video to discredit Orb being the voice of reason in this thread, when his experience with controversy actually makes him a credible source on how making emotionally charged comments can affect your career in a negative manner.
What do you mean? He still acts and talks like that today
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On October 04 2012 13:05 Polarexia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 13:03 sertman wrote:On October 04 2012 13:00 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 12:57 sertman wrote:Because it's absolutely and utterly impossible for people to grow up, especially after a nearly career ending incident. Get real dude. What? That video is from months ago. Sandstorm is attempting to use that video to discredit Orb being the voice of reason in this thread, when his experience with controversy actually makes him a credible source on how making emotionally charged comments can affect your career in a negative manner. What do you mean? He still acts and talks like that today
Not that I've seen
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On October 04 2012 13:04 BearStorm wrote:
Whether or not you the felt the manner in which Nony expressed himself was appropriate doesn't change the fact that he got screwed over. Why are people so focused on word choice that they aren't recognizing/discussing how these situations can be avoided or how victims of poorly run tournaments should be compensated?
It's not about poor word choice, at least among the people who aren't stupid.
This is a private matter between Tyler and his manager (who didn't give him the information in a timely manner). A week to play a game is standard, and I'm sure Tyler agreed to that when he agreed to play in the tournament.
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On October 04 2012 13:06 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 13:05 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 13:03 sertman wrote:On October 04 2012 13:00 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 12:57 sertman wrote:Because it's absolutely and utterly impossible for people to grow up, especially after a nearly career ending incident. Get real dude. What? That video is from months ago. Sandstorm is attempting to use that video to discredit Orb being the voice of reason in this thread, when his experience with controversy actually makes him a credible source on how making emotionally charged comments can affect your career in a negative manner. What do you mean? He still acts and talks like that today Not that I've seen
Guess you don't watch his stream then, rages like this on a daily basis.
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On October 04 2012 13:06 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 13:05 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 13:03 sertman wrote:On October 04 2012 13:00 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 12:57 sertman wrote:Because it's absolutely and utterly impossible for people to grow up, especially after a nearly career ending incident. Get real dude. What? That video is from months ago. Sandstorm is attempting to use that video to discredit Orb being the voice of reason in this thread, when his experience with controversy actually makes him a credible source on how making emotionally charged comments can affect your career in a negative manner. What do you mean? He still acts and talks like that today Not that I've seen
He literally acts like this every broadcast..
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On October 04 2012 13:07 MahE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 13:06 sertman wrote:On October 04 2012 13:05 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 13:03 sertman wrote:On October 04 2012 13:00 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 12:57 sertman wrote:Because it's absolutely and utterly impossible for people to grow up, especially after a nearly career ending incident. Get real dude. What? That video is from months ago. Sandstorm is attempting to use that video to discredit Orb being the voice of reason in this thread, when his experience with controversy actually makes him a credible source on how making emotionally charged comments can affect your career in a negative manner. What do you mean? He still acts and talks like that today Not that I've seen Guess you don't watch his stream then, rages like this on a daily basis.
Not very often but I catch it when I can. I still don't see why that's a big deal and why that has any bearing on what he's saying to NonY in this thread.
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On October 04 2012 13:11 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 13:07 MahE wrote:On October 04 2012 13:06 sertman wrote:On October 04 2012 13:05 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 13:03 sertman wrote:On October 04 2012 13:00 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 12:57 sertman wrote:Because it's absolutely and utterly impossible for people to grow up, especially after a nearly career ending incident. Get real dude. What? That video is from months ago. Sandstorm is attempting to use that video to discredit Orb being the voice of reason in this thread, when his experience with controversy actually makes him a credible source on how making emotionally charged comments can affect your career in a negative manner. What do you mean? He still acts and talks like that today Not that I've seen Guess you don't watch his stream then, rages like this on a daily basis. Not very often but I catch it when I can. I still don't see why that's a big deal and why that has any bearing on what he's saying to NonY in this thread.
It doesn't, really. Read my posts, I mostly agree with orb (except that he's obviously sucking up to Diamond, but that's excusable because that's how you get jobs in esports)
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United States15275 Posts
On October 04 2012 13:04 BearStorm wrote:
Whether or not you the felt the manner in which Nony expressed himself was appropriate doesn't change the fact that he got screwed over. Why are people so focused on word choice that they aren't recognizing/discussing how these situations can be avoided or how victims of poorly run tournaments should be compensated?
A. The way you handle yourself in such situations portrays the type of individual you are.
B. His message is contradictory when his own testimony does not make it clear whether his manager received incomplete information or whether his manager failed to tell him all the necessary information. What specific information was sent to the manager? And what about any attempts to get the information by contacting IPL staff? GSL staff? Were all avenues exhausted without success?
C. He is embarrassing his damn team by pouting and pointing fingers at everyone instead of stating the specific reasons why he is so pissed off and trying to resolve the issue.
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On October 04 2012 13:11 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 13:07 MahE wrote:On October 04 2012 13:06 sertman wrote:On October 04 2012 13:05 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 13:03 sertman wrote:On October 04 2012 13:00 Polarexia wrote:On October 04 2012 12:57 sertman wrote:Because it's absolutely and utterly impossible for people to grow up, especially after a nearly career ending incident. Get real dude. What? That video is from months ago. Sandstorm is attempting to use that video to discredit Orb being the voice of reason in this thread, when his experience with controversy actually makes him a credible source on how making emotionally charged comments can affect your career in a negative manner. What do you mean? He still acts and talks like that today Not that I've seen Guess you don't watch his stream then, rages like this on a daily basis. Not very often but I catch it when I can. I still don't see why that's a big deal and why that has any bearing on what he's saying to NonY in this thread.
Agreed. Orb's manner on stream really has nothing to do with NoNy's tournament issues or NoNy's fanclub. People only seem to be bringing it up because Orb was in here trying to defend Diamond and try to calm NoNy down. Regardless of Orb's own manner I felt his posts in here were productive and useful. Maybe it was the pot calling the kettle black, but hey, the pot is correct about that.
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4m Tyler Wasieleski @LiquidNonY
@ESVDiamond what the fuck do you know what twitter is lol 140char max aint no posts full of details and explanations. get real bitch
LOL greatest tweet ever
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Instead of Bic making gamers look to be hairy nerds. I think they should use Tyler for advertising. Get real!
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The fact of the matter is that whether you support diamond, orb, or Tyler, this is a private matter that realistically has nothing to do with GSL and Tyler is pissed off (and possibly drunk, if I had to guess)- everyone chill and wait for an official comment.
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On October 04 2012 13:24 MahE wrote:
The fact of the matter is that whether you support diamond, orb, or Tyler, this is a private matter that realistically has nothing to do with GSL and Tyler is pissed off (and possibly drunk, if I had to guess)- everyone chill and wait for an official comment.
Mahebourg may not be the bro we deserve, but it's the bro we need.
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fuck official comments we need to get our wild wild west community back. flame on~
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in the words of TT1, FLAME ON
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Jesus Christ, talk about a PR disaster here...
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It's getting late everybody, I suggest we all stop shedding tears and dream sweet beautiful dreams.
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Australia54785 Posts
well this is a tad dramatic
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On October 04 2012 13:06 MahE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 13:04 BearStorm wrote:
Whether or not you the felt the manner in which Nony expressed himself was appropriate doesn't change the fact that he got screwed over. Why are people so focused on word choice that they aren't recognizing/discussing how these situations can be avoided or how victims of poorly run tournaments should be compensated? It's not about poor word choice, at least among the people who aren't stupid. This is a private matter between Tyler and his manager (who didn't give him the information in a timely manner). A week to play a game is standard, and I'm sure Tyler agreed to that when he agreed to play in the tournament.
Maybe writing "word choice" wasn't the best way to say what I was trying to say. It feels like everyone is just avoiding the possibility that the GSL is at fault for creating such a tense situation in the first place. People are very willing to discuss/criticize Tyler's behavior, but are not discussing how tournament managers can prevent issues like these in the future. Especially since this is the Nony Fanclub, and as a fan, I am upset that I don't get to follow Nony in this tournament. The main concerns that came to me after seeing the situation were:
Can Nony be placed back into the tournament? Is there even a chance of that? And if not how can this situation be avoided in the future? Will Nony be compensated?
I'm not trying to tell people they are being ridiculous for wanting to talk drama. We all know TL.net loves drama. I just can't believe other fans aren't sharing/voicing the same concerns I immediately felt.
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Canada13430 Posts
Shitty deal Nony, I can only hope this doesn't happen to you again. You were streaming a bunch then stopped specifically to practice for this GSL event.
I only wish you didn't have to react so publicly mad. I can understand being mad about GSL but bringing other people into it is starting to detract from the original message.
I'll still watch, I'm still a fan, and I hope this works out for you in some way somewhere down the line.
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