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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
April 23 2012 00:40 GMT
#3881
Silver....Again....I wonder if it's back....Hope not. Gogo Marineking!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 23 2012 01:25 GMT
#3882
it's okay! MKP still #1 player in the world.
:D gogo kill code S ezpz
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 23 2012 01:25 GMT
#3883
MKP is still the best terran in the world. he will back to win another MLG
"let your freak flag fly"
Zoraque
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 01:54:51
April 23 2012 01:54 GMT
#3884
just curious, any1 know what mouse MKP is using?
I saw some pics but i cant clearly make out what mouse it might be (pics from mlg spring such as http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/SpringArena/Day2/P2/_MG_2626.jpg

sources: TL
MarineKingPrime, Reality, ST_RainBOw, Grubby, Hyun, Supernova!!
kc
Profile Joined August 2006
Canada212 Posts
April 23 2012 01:59 GMT
#3885
On April 23 2012 10:54 Zoraque wrote:
just curious, any1 know what mouse MKP is using?
I saw some pics but i cant clearly make out what mouse it might be (pics from mlg spring such as http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/SpringArena/Day2/P2/_MG_2626.jpg

sources: TL


Logitech g9x
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 23 2012 03:56 GMT
#3886
4-3 Against the best Zerg in the world and people are doubting him? Aw come on, you know better. Yes he should fix his early scouting thing, which is mostly against Zerg's though and his TvT has looked about as good as his vP lately so I have no doubt he'll get out of his group. Also don't forget he actually said that his worst MU is Zerg and still going 4-3, that's the best terran in the world atm for you.
Jaedong & Faker
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
April 23 2012 05:24 GMT
#3887
On April 23 2012 09:23 Lovely_US wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 09:17 TeeTS wrote:
On April 23 2012 09:12 Hiea wrote:
Well guys, this is actually a good thing, 2012 history says, MLG 2nd wins GSL.

I still think MKP however needs to prepare better against all ins, he very rarely loses a game if it goes longer than 15minutes unless his at a major disadvantage.


yeah, that might be the good thing out of this defeat. He really has to get his mind together again and stop playing bullshit. 4 times CC first in a bo7? Seriously? Of course you get the shit allined out of you and of course it works. He has to go back to playing strats that don't just set you behind and where you have to start a comeback from. Also playing completely blind every game loses him more and more matches. He will have a tough time on wednesday. Taeja is a smart player with great mechanics, same goes for the STC. Those two might just get out of this group if MKP doesn't fall back to solid play.


You have to keep in mind that he's playing to his opponents style. DRG normally plays a very straight up macro game and takes a lot of shortcuts. As a result, if MKP were to play extremely standard (reactor helion expand), he actually would fall behind in macro because DRG is that good. Yes a 14 CC is kind of risky, but it takes that kind of play to beat someone the caliber of DRG, and for the most part a 14 CC puts a Terran so far ahead if he can hold it. It only sets him behind if he can't hold and it gets all-ined, but DRG doesn't tend to do that. It's been a while since I've seen DRG do these busts and I'm glad he used them. He became too predictable in his macro.

I think we should all just let MKP play the builds... He knows much more about the game than anyone here and more about DRG's style than anyone here. Don't talk like you think you're better than him: it's just the metagame. Remember when pros would hide pylons in each other's bases early in beta, then people started scouting so it never happened, and now it's coming back? Remember when it was only 4 gate? Now people trickle it into their builds. That's just how SC2 works.



Well, you can watch a lot of games, he loses 90% of them to early game all ins, either to lack of scouting or being overly greedy, doesn't matter if we dont know the game aswell, his been playing a bit to greedy lately, and if you remember game 1 of the finals, MKP was massively behind but still came back and won, imagine if they started out even or DRG very slightly in the lead.
Zoraque
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada120 Posts
April 23 2012 08:13 GMT
#3888
On April 23 2012 10:59 kc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 10:54 Zoraque wrote:
just curious, any1 know what mouse MKP is using?
I saw some pics but i cant clearly make out what mouse it might be (pics from mlg spring such as http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/SpringArena/Day2/P2/_MG_2626.jpg

sources: TL


Logitech g9x



thanks a lot!! ♥
MarineKingPrime, Reality, ST_RainBOw, Grubby, Hyun, Supernova!!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
April 23 2012 09:18 GMT
#3889
You can't win TvZ without being "greedy".
WriterMaru
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
April 23 2012 09:21 GMT
#3890
MKP is so amazingly photogenic, I don't think it's possible to take a bad picture of him.
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THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
April 23 2012 09:55 GMT
#3891
I am a bit disappointed for sure, but I guess it's not such a big deal. He had the best possible spots in that last game on TDA, but he didn't use them. Should've gone for a more standard tank bio play. He also made 1-2 very crucial mistakes like attacking without stim and losing his army :S

Oh well, can't win them all. Foxer is still the best player in the world as far as I'm concerned, and I think he'll prove it once again in GSL.

Fighting
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
April 23 2012 10:03 GMT
#3892
I do think MKP did still play the best at the arena, even if he didn't win, he had a record of 20-12, which is better than DRG who got 19-16, but DRG got 3-1 of that from losing so much the first day that he had to play more games. and DRG / MKP went 5-5 against eachother
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
April 23 2012 10:24 GMT
#3893
It's alright Even if he loss. Just look at his amazing performance during the whole tournament. Beating everyone easily. And his play still looks rock solid. Next time! Although Spring arena 2 will be a lot harder as there are more players.
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 23 2012 10:43 GMT
#3894
On April 23 2012 19:24 Ace1123 wrote:
It's alright Even if he loss. Just look at his amazing performance during the whole tournament. Beating everyone easily. And his play still looks rock solid. Next time! Although Spring arena 2 will be a lot harder as there are more players.


MKP hopefully won't be at Spring Arena 2 at all
... because he'll be winning the GSL finals!!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
April 23 2012 11:14 GMT
#3895
On April 23 2012 19:43 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 19:24 Ace1123 wrote:
It's alright Even if he loss. Just look at his amazing performance during the whole tournament. Beating everyone easily. And his play still looks rock solid. Next time! Although Spring arena 2 will be a lot harder as there are more players.


MKP hopefully won't be at Spring Arena 2 at all
... because he'll be winning the GSL finals!!


Atleast his already seeded into pool play at the championship so his just gonna miss out on some money, not seeding to take the spring championship :D
FiNTer
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland153 Posts
April 23 2012 11:19 GMT
#3896
On April 23 2012 18:18 Poopi wrote:
You can't win TvZ without being "greedy".

very true just look MKPs and MMAs tvz builds their early game greed builds the great succes in the lategame
Slayers`terran fan
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 23 2012 13:37 GMT
#3897
On April 23 2012 18:21 R1CH wrote:
MKP is so amazingly photogenic, I don't think it's possible to take a bad picture of him.


He just loves the camera I guess^^, number one poser!
Jaedong & Faker
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
April 23 2012 17:37 GMT
#3898
On April 23 2012 18:18 Poopi wrote:
You can't win TvZ without being "greedy".


Yeah you are very right. BUT you have to be in control of the game and your opponent if you want your greedyness to be a solid style. You have to scout very well and be safe against common pressures from zerg. Therefor I still think that reactor hellion into triple OC is the best build in this matchup, because you have early hellions against early ling pressure, you scout every kind of roach allin right in the moment the roaches leave zergs base and have enough time to prepare since roaches take a long time to cross the big maps we have right now and you still get a shitload of eco out of this build. I think those cc first and 1rax expand builds are a present to the zerg players and we see much more often zerg players take a fast 3rd in response or punish this uncontrolled greedyness with pressures and semi-allins (roach/bling is kinda semi allin). Take the series against symbol for excample. Basically killed by a roach/bling pressure three times in a row.
1rax expo or cc first are such gambling builds, you don't have a clue what zerg is doing until they may hit your front or are still way ahead in eco, because of an own fast 3rd.
If MKP goes on with those kinda builds he will go on to lose a lot of TvZ against inferior opponents as will every terran doing this. The greedyness from terrans has gone too far, since they don't take mapcontrol anymore at times they need to.
And if you look at the series against DRG, MKP was behind after the early game in nearly every set, even in those he won! You can't say on that basis, that he picked the right builds!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
April 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#3899
Lol, "behind after the early game", that's how every TvZ goes whatever you do except if you successfully 2rax him (which is more and more impossible on this new mappool).
WriterMaru
SayaSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway111 Posts
April 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#3900
So close but gl till next MLG.
Still the best player in the world IMO.
Alliance <3
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