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I only saw the games Sase played against MKP, and Sase never had a chance. G1, MKP went for 2 rax pressure, looking to expand behind it, but he straight up killed Sase. The next game, Sase did probably the worst 4gate I ever saw  Honestly... Extremely visible pylon in MKP's natural, then he added one next to the rocks which MKP could take out from the high ground... Taking them out supply capped Sase both times, that was sad to see :/
MKP beat MC in pool play as well btw, 2-1. MKP was just really strong this tournament, only dropping 2 games, one to Whale in the 2nd attempt to game one, and another to MC, no shame in that
I'm really happy he won!
EDIT: I think MKP's match against Happy is at 13KST... So I guess that's at 5am our time >< Luckily it's on a holiday, not sure If I'll be able to stroll out of bed that early, LOL
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On November 09 2011 07:05 Nuithari wrote:I only saw the games Sase played against MKP, and Sase never had a chance. G1, MKP went for 2 rax pressure, looking to expand behind it, but he straight up killed Sase. The next game, Sase did probably the worst 4gate I ever saw Honestly... Extremely visible pylon in MKP's natural, then he added one next to the rocks which MKP could take out from the high ground... Taking them out supply capped Sase both times, that was sad to see :/ MKP beat MC in pool play as well btw, 2-1. MKP was just really strong this tournament, only dropping 2 games, one to Whale in the 2nd attempt to game one, and another to MC, no shame in that I'm really happy he won! EDIT: I think MKP's match against Happy is at 13KST... So I guess that's at 5am our time >< Luckily it's on a holiday, not sure If I'll be able to stroll out of bed that early, LOL
Im just not gonna go to sleep :D !
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Yeah 5 am that sucks, I am waking up at 6am every day of the week so I will probably sleep friday, but if I dunno how wake up randomly around 5am I will maybe watch the games on my netbook and sleep later.
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I could do that.. get up and sleep again later... good idea ^^
I found some pictures from PPSL over on Wetcraft TL blog
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NMnPP.jpg)
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I'd like to have one where he's celebrating, but haven't found one yet 
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On November 04 2011 22:13 adiga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 21:51 Poopi wrote:On November 04 2011 21:42 adiga wrote:
I seriously think he should consider change a team,
It seems like he is lacking the practice at high levels, for example if he would have been crushed trying that marine only opener at practice he wouldn't have used it. I don't think the slayers terrans got more skills than he does or a better macro they just practice properly to their matches. Him being on Prime doesn't mean that he can't practice with someone who isn't on Prime. Koreans practice with whoever they want usually. A lot of people are thankful to him in interviews, and he was the best TvZ from season 2 to 4 (it was hard to tell who was the best vZer between him and Mvp season 4 anyways since they didn't lose xd) despite having Check as the best zerg in his team. Maybe the way Mvp won against him made him panick or I dunno, because he can play TvT marine/tank fine as seen in code A, or MLG. I really don't understand some of his bo1 builds. If he would have lost against Curious with his 1base all-in, I would understand such a "non standart" build because the map is really bad for terrans past 1/2base all-ins anyways, so you have to win on one or two bases, nothing wrong in playing "weird" on this map, but TvT come on, wanting to almost only marine aLive on antiga is like Stephano wanting to only zerglings aLive on antiga LOL, except that Stephano did it in a 500$ bo3 only, not a GSL qualification for code S T_T. So yeah I can't explain why he used that strat, maybe he never loses against aLive with it? I'm really sad that him and Polt have failed, and I'm angry that Mvp cheesed him, even if it was smart to abuse MKP's scout, I would like to see if MKP can now handle Mvp in a macro game. Being on other team would mean a better coach. If I we're MKPs coach I would seriously force him to stop doing wired builds like that marine only, make him scout more etc. I feel like that's what he is lacking atm, a good coach that can pin point his errors and tell him to deal with them. If I were him I would wait for BW teams to switch to SC2 and try getting in one of them. BTW about him streaming, I don't see him streaming in the near future cos he will be depressed after the fails at the 2 tournys.
Your comment sounds odd. Almost like you'd be happy to see Mkp depressed. :/ Honestly, I don't like watching Mkp lose cause it is heartbreaking. I enjoy watching him roflstomp people coz he usu. does it with amazing micro. My jaw always drops. He likes cutting it close in games, but when he comes back or holds a rush and you go wtf HOW did he hold/win that it always feel great to be an Mkp fan.
My point is, although I would luv luv luv to see Mkp win a GSL and crush Mvp just once, right now there is nothing "small" about what he has accomplished so far. And at such a young age too. He's Kong. So what? He wins gold in other tourneys. He is very very good and has made a name for himself. He has this Primezzang thing going. He's done well for himself. So although it is also my secret wish that he change teams, I don't see that happening and I'm not bothering to wish for it either.
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He seems to have good friends in prime clan. So I don't see him leaving. Yes his choice of strategy can be improved and some tactical decisions too. But He is a one of the best terrans in the world. He is constantly bringing top results. And to be honest, there are much worse destinies in sports buisness than being an alltime 2nd  .
I like him for his playstyle, his passion, his kindness, his emotions. He is a great guy and a great player. It's great that we have someone like him in the scene.
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Oh and by the way Polt won a GSL while being on Prime...
So changing team is not what gonna make him win a GSL.
If he feels good in this team he has to stay in it 
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guys please can you link me the page with the PPS games?
i am going crazy trying to find them.
on their website in the "video" section there's nothing.
i tried to google it, try to look on TL and on the liquipedia page i can't find any video for the VODS-.-
i just heard tastosis say to check out those games on the GSL but I CAN'T FIND THEM T___T
please someone share here the link?
would love to see MKP's games.
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MKP is going to providence!
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On November 11 2011 03:55 antilyon wrote:
MKP is going to providence!
Source?
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On November 11 2011 04:11 adiga wrote:Source?
MLG News
This is awesome!!!
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Does anyone know if restream is authorized for WCG?
If yes, those who have already seen WCG in the past, was there restreams available on TL?
I'd like to know if I should try to watch it if I somehow got waken up in the night, or if I should continue sleeping :D
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On November 11 2011 06:30 Poopi wrote:
Does anyone know if restream is authorized for WCG?
If yes, those who have already seen WCG in the past, was there restreams available on TL?
I'd like to know if I should try to watch it if I somehow got waken up in the night, or if I should continue sleeping :D
The whole rounds have been streamed by TLers as well as gomtv.net but I don't think TLers stream it through gomtv.I think they stream it through another means.
http://www.twitch.tv/boesthius/b/299610381 is one of the vods, btw it has kpop and his own personal flare to it. but when the live starts its relatively quiet and calm. I would definitely set an alarm.
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On November 11 2011 06:30 Poopi wrote:
Does anyone know if restream is authorized for WCG?
If yes, those who have already seen WCG in the past, was there restreams available on TL?
I'd like to know if I should try to watch it if I somehow got waken up in the night, or if I should continue sleeping :D
Yeah, there are usually two or three people re streaming it on here.
Nanashin's stream is best stream >_>
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Do you guys want MKP games in OP ? Or no need ? Can make it if want.
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On November 11 2011 06:34 Talionis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2011 06:30 Poopi wrote:
Does anyone know if restream is authorized for WCG?
If yes, those who have already seen WCG in the past, was there restreams available on TL?
I'd like to know if I should try to watch it if I somehow got waken up in the night, or if I should continue sleeping :D Yeah, there are usually two or three people re streaming it on here. Nanashin's stream is best stream >_>
Oh niicee =D.
I hope that I'll wake up by myself, won't put on the alarm clock since I'm already tired but eh.
Too bad it's bo3 so it can end very quickly. I'm sure that MarineKing practiced very hard for this and I believe that he will be able to destroy Happy!
Oh by the way I'll probably make tutorials about some of MarineKing builds (with the original replay of him + some of mine to show the different responses of the opponent you can encounter :
TvT :
- pressure build, marine hellion + 1 medivac timing attack working on almost every ladder map + some GSL/cups maps
+ possible followup explained (from NASL qualifiers against Polt, was a metagame build effective at the time only against Polt because Polt didn't use blue flame thus it didn't work on ladder... until patch 1.4 hit! :D now it's pretty effective on ladder against most of the currents TvT build)
TvP :
- marine timing attack (if FE from P, if not marines for defense) + hellion drop at the same time with two different followup (followup from MKP original game and a followup I think is more suited against P after patch 1.4)
- 3 rax combat shield timing attack to FE (reaper one from MKP vs SaSe @CPL and reactor first from MKP vs HuK various encounters @GSTL/MLG)
TvZ :
Variations of 2rax.
2 rax are not really "MKP builds" because almost everyone use it, but I think that it can be interesting to explain the two most popular versions, MKP use them sometimes as well.
As you can see all of these builds are pressure build or timing attacks, I don't think it would be interesting to "explain" the FE builds that MarineKing use because they are very standart builds most of the time, and they are kinda reactive so there isn't really something to explain. I dunno if some of you are interested in explanations of these pressure builds MKP used, but back then koreans didn't play in foreign tournaments it was almost impossible to find replays of MarineKing and I really wanted to be able to copy his builds and stuff like that, thus I think it would be cool to have some of his builds explained in the OP!
I will do this tomorrow or this weekend.
The TvP/TvT replays of mine are against high/top masters from ladder and the different TvZ 2rax are against top 50-100 GM zergs from online cups
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you sir, are a badass.
thanks a lot!!
On November 11 2011 06:45 zYwi3c wrote:
Do you guys want MKP games in OP ? Or no need ? Can make it if want.
YES!!
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Ok, tonight before WCG gonna try to check all pages and search for MKP games + replays.
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MKP won with Happy 2-1. He is going to WCG to represent Korea with MVP.
Tommorow is Final: MKP vs MVP ( just fun i guess )
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