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walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
May 31 2011 07:44 GMT
#11481
Idra's stream is about as enjoyable to watch as it was prior to his leaving Korea.

Depressing yo.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
May 31 2011 07:44 GMT
#11482
On May 31 2011 16:43 Pokedude1013 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 16:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:39 n00bspanker wrote:
Minigun hasn't won anything important, ever. Don't sweat it.


ummm. idra kept throwing his men away knowing that forcefields were coming. if minigun is going to take the free units, more power to him. that was bad on idra's part. hopefully idrae beats him this second match,.


you're right he should just let the protoss have the map and tech up
don't engage
the protoss has force fields


he should have like flanked or something and then get cut off by the force fields


he fought mini in chokes on at least three occasions. that was when minigun was attacking him, not the other way around. minigun played to the map, idra didnt. give some credit where credit is due.
SundeR.
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 07:49:50
May 31 2011 07:49 GMT
#11483
On May 31 2011 16:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 16:43 Pokedude1013 wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:39 n00bspanker wrote:
Minigun hasn't won anything important, ever. Don't sweat it.


ummm. idra kept throwing his men away knowing that forcefields were coming. if minigun is going to take the free units, more power to him. that was bad on idra's part. hopefully idrae beats him this second match,.


you're right he should just let the protoss have the map and tech up
don't engage
the protoss has force fields


he should have like flanked or something and then get cut off by the force fields


he fought mini in chokes on at least three occasions. that was when minigun was attacking him, not the other way around. minigun played to the map, idra didnt. give some credit where credit is due.


I really don't think someone like Minigun deserves any credit whatsoever. He has shown nothing, ever. Minigun standing in one area while Idra attacks doesn't mean Minigun played well.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
May 31 2011 07:52 GMT
#11484
On May 31 2011 16:49 SundeR. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 16:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:43 Pokedude1013 wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:39 n00bspanker wrote:
Minigun hasn't won anything important, ever. Don't sweat it.


ummm. idra kept throwing his men away knowing that forcefields were coming. if minigun is going to take the free units, more power to him. that was bad on idra's part. hopefully idrae beats him this second match,.


you're right he should just let the protoss have the map and tech up
don't engage
the protoss has force fields


he should have like flanked or something and then get cut off by the force fields


he fought mini in chokes on at least three occasions. that was when minigun was attacking him, not the other way around. minigun played to the map, idra didnt. give some credit where credit is due.


I really don't think someone like Minigun deserves any credit whatsoever. He has shown nothing, ever. Minigun standing in one area while Idra attacks doesn't mean Minigun played well.


i guess you don't know how to use tlpd then, because minigun has done a lot and is a good player. he also just beat idra twice (although admittedly that map is shit). rage at the game (and maps) not the players who use the tactics blizzard gave them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2276_Minigun
SundeR.
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia112 Posts
May 31 2011 07:53 GMT
#11485
On May 31 2011 16:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 16:49 SundeR. wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:43 Pokedude1013 wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:39 n00bspanker wrote:
Minigun hasn't won anything important, ever. Don't sweat it.


ummm. idra kept throwing his men away knowing that forcefields were coming. if minigun is going to take the free units, more power to him. that was bad on idra's part. hopefully idrae beats him this second match,.


you're right he should just let the protoss have the map and tech up
don't engage
the protoss has force fields


he should have like flanked or something and then get cut off by the force fields


he fought mini in chokes on at least three occasions. that was when minigun was attacking him, not the other way around. minigun played to the map, idra didnt. give some credit where credit is due.


I really don't think someone like Minigun deserves any credit whatsoever. He has shown nothing, ever. Minigun standing in one area while Idra attacks doesn't mean Minigun played well.


i guess you don't know how to use tlpd then, because minigun has done a lot and is a good player. he also just beat idra twice (although admittedly that map is shit). rage at the game (and maps) not the players who use the tactics blizzard gave them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2276_Minigun


Is this a troll post?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
May 31 2011 07:54 GMT
#11486
On May 31 2011 16:53 SundeR. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 16:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:49 SundeR. wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:43 Pokedude1013 wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:39 n00bspanker wrote:
Minigun hasn't won anything important, ever. Don't sweat it.


ummm. idra kept throwing his men away knowing that forcefields were coming. if minigun is going to take the free units, more power to him. that was bad on idra's part. hopefully idrae beats him this second match,.


you're right he should just let the protoss have the map and tech up
don't engage
the protoss has force fields


he should have like flanked or something and then get cut off by the force fields


he fought mini in chokes on at least three occasions. that was when minigun was attacking him, not the other way around. minigun played to the map, idra didnt. give some credit where credit is due.


I really don't think someone like Minigun deserves any credit whatsoever. He has shown nothing, ever. Minigun standing in one area while Idra attacks doesn't mean Minigun played well.


i guess you don't know how to use tlpd then, because minigun has done a lot and is a good player. he also just beat idra twice (although admittedly that map is shit). rage at the game (and maps) not the players who use the tactics blizzard gave them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2276_Minigun


Is this a troll post?


damn. you caught me. i made a fake tlpd webpage just to troll you. man, you are good at catching trolls.
SundeR.
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 08:00:45
May 31 2011 07:56 GMT
#11487
On May 31 2011 16:54 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 16:53 SundeR. wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:49 SundeR. wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:43 Pokedude1013 wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:39 n00bspanker wrote:
Minigun hasn't won anything important, ever. Don't sweat it.


ummm. idra kept throwing his men away knowing that forcefields were coming. if minigun is going to take the free units, more power to him. that was bad on idra's part. hopefully idrae beats him this second match,.


you're right he should just let the protoss have the map and tech up
don't engage
the protoss has force fields


he should have like flanked or something and then get cut off by the force fields


he fought mini in chokes on at least three occasions. that was when minigun was attacking him, not the other way around. minigun played to the map, idra didnt. give some credit where credit is due.


I really don't think someone like Minigun deserves any credit whatsoever. He has shown nothing, ever. Minigun standing in one area while Idra attacks doesn't mean Minigun played well.


i guess you don't know how to use tlpd then, because minigun has done a lot and is a good player. he also just beat idra twice (although admittedly that map is shit). rage at the game (and maps) not the players who use the tactics blizzard gave them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2276_Minigun


Is this a troll post?


damn. you caught me. i made a fake tlpd webpage just to troll you. man, you are good at catching trolls.


No, no, really. What on that tlpd page is meant to impress me?

Edit: Oh wait.. that tlpd did teach me something.. he is that inflow.mini guy, the guy that was forever diamond in Season 1...
TheBrofessor
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada429 Posts
May 31 2011 07:58 GMT
#11488
On May 31 2011 16:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 16:43 Pokedude1013 wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:39 n00bspanker wrote:
Minigun hasn't won anything important, ever. Don't sweat it.


ummm. idra kept throwing his men away knowing that forcefields were coming. if minigun is going to take the free units, more power to him. that was bad on idra's part. hopefully idrae beats him this second match,.


you're right he should just let the protoss have the map and tech up
don't engage
the protoss has force fields


he should have like flanked or something and then get cut off by the force fields


he fought mini in chokes on at least three occasions. that was when minigun was attacking him, not the other way around. minigun played to the map, idra didnt. give some credit where credit is due.



Its kinda hard not to fight in chokes when that's all typhon peaks is
Knix
Profile Joined April 2010
United States67 Posts
May 31 2011 08:00 GMT
#11489
On May 31 2011 16:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 16:49 SundeR. wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:43 Pokedude1013 wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 31 2011 16:39 n00bspanker wrote:
Minigun hasn't won anything important, ever. Don't sweat it.


ummm. idra kept throwing his men away knowing that forcefields were coming. if minigun is going to take the free units, more power to him. that was bad on idra's part. hopefully idrae beats him this second match,.


you're right he should just let the protoss have the map and tech up
don't engage
the protoss has force fields


he should have like flanked or something and then get cut off by the force fields


he fought mini in chokes on at least three occasions. that was when minigun was attacking him, not the other way around. minigun played to the map, idra didnt. give some credit where credit is due.


I really don't think someone like Minigun deserves any credit whatsoever. He has shown nothing, ever. Minigun standing in one area while Idra attacks doesn't mean Minigun played well.


i guess you don't know how to use tlpd then, because minigun has done a lot and is a good player. he also just beat idra twice (although admittedly that map is shit). rage at the game (and maps) not the players who use the tactics blizzard gave them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2276_Minigun



You literally showed him getting gold and silver medals in SHOWMATCHES. LOL.
Drewbie: "Here I realize 'oh shit, I can't kill him' so I double expand."
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 08:03:29
May 31 2011 08:02 GMT
#11490
minigun took medals in at least three invitationals. beating kiwikaki in one for gold (isnt he considered one of the best protoss outside of korea?). yeah, i guess he is pretty shitty.

edit: also he is ranked 99 in ELO. guess top 100 are scrubs.
og logen
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany11 Posts
May 31 2011 08:02 GMT
#11491
i want a vod of every idra vs root game :o
entertaining show today :>
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
May 31 2011 08:21 GMT
#11492
IdrA played nice v. Catz there. I like that.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
May 31 2011 08:21 GMT
#11493
Whoa whoa, did IdrA just beat Roach/Infestor/Ultra with Hydra/Infestor? I missed most of it. =(
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 31 2011 08:25 GMT
#11494
On May 31 2011 17:21 VashTS wrote:
Whoa whoa, did IdrA just beat Roach/Infestor/Ultra with Hydra/Infestor? I missed most of it. =(


from his stream today I see him going heavy hydra/infestor with not so many roaches. It seems to be working out very well ^^
When I think of something else, something will go here
Guilt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States48 Posts
May 31 2011 08:26 GMT
#11495
On May 31 2011 17:02 dAPhREAk wrote:
minigun took medals in at least three invitationals. beating kiwikaki in one for gold (isnt he considered one of the best protoss outside of korea?). yeah, i guess he is pretty shitty.

edit: also he is ranked 99 in ELO. guess top 100 are scrubs.


If you actually look at the TLPD past the shiny medals...

4 showmatches-winning a showmatch isn't impressive.

For his 3 actual achievements:

3rd place in an 8person SCreddit invitational.
That looks nice, but in reality, it means that he lost in the 2nd round...not very impressive.

2nd place in the Root Challenge invitational:
First, when you participate in a tournament hosted by your own team, your win is less impressive than otherwise, considering many of the people invited are your teammates. The player list was quite mediocre in addition with only a few high caliber players. To get 2nd place, he mostly won against people who have accomplished nothing in sc2 other than winning a 100 dollar weekly tournament once. The only exception for this is beating qxc, who many considered overrated after seeing him go 0-6 in NASL, 0-10 at IEM and losing in many other tournaments.

First place in the Root Invitational.

This is his only slightly impressive result. But if you actually look at the matches he played, the only people he played were people on ROOT at the time, or previously part of ROOT excluding stalife. So essentially, he can beat his teammates, who he plays with often and knows their strategies. I don't think that's a good indicator of skill because games against people you don't practice with are very different from games with your teammates. For example, Haypro winning the only-teamliquid tournament isn't very impressive as it only contains other liquid players. Admittedly, you could say that the reason he only fought ROOT players was because root players were the best in the tournament, but I don't really know if that's accurate considering the lack of major results from any players other than kiwikaki
clik
Profile Joined May 2010
United States319 Posts
May 31 2011 08:27 GMT
#11496
With the way he's rolling through the rest of ROOT tonight they are kind of proving Idra's point that Minigun only gets his wins because he's Protoss.
Primal666
Profile Joined November 2010
Slovenia418 Posts
May 31 2011 08:27 GMT
#11497
Rootdesteny vs idra was SICKKK.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 31 2011 08:29 GMT
#11498
Idra should show more respect to minigun... minigun was outmacroing, outmicroing and outplaying idra there and idra just flames him
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 08:35:57
May 31 2011 08:31 GMT
#11499
On May 31 2011 17:26 Guilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 17:02 dAPhREAk wrote:
minigun took medals in at least three invitationals. beating kiwikaki in one for gold (isnt he considered one of the best protoss outside of korea?). yeah, i guess he is pretty shitty.

edit: also he is ranked 99 in ELO. guess top 100 are scrubs.


+ Show Spoiler +
If you actually look at the TLPD past the shiny medals...

4 showmatches-winning a showmatch isn't impressive.

For his 3 actual achievements:

3rd place in an 8person SCreddit invitational.
That looks nice, but in reality, it means that he lost in the 2nd round...not very impressive.

2nd place in the Root Challenge invitational:
First, when you participate in a tournament hosted by your own team, your win is less impressive than otherwise, considering many of the people invited are your teammates. The player list was quite mediocre in addition with only a few high caliber players. To get 2nd place, he mostly won against people who have accomplished nothing in sc2 other than winning a 100 dollar weekly tournament once. The only exception for this is beating qxc, who many considered overrated after seeing him go 0-6 in NASL, 0-10 at IEM and losing in many other tournaments.

First place in the Root Invitational.

This is his only slightly impressive result. But if you actually look at the matches he played, the only people he played were people on ROOT at the time, or previously part of ROOT excluding stalife. So essentially, he can beat his teammates, who he plays with often and knows their strategies. I don't think that's a good indicator of skill because games against people you don't practice with are very different from games with your teammates. For example, Haypro winning the only-teamliquid tournament isn't very impressive as it only contains other liquid players. Admittedly, you could say that the reason he only fought ROOT players was because root players were the best in the tournament, but I don't really know if that's accurate considering the lack of major results from any players other than kiwikaki


how do you explain the top 100 ELO ranking then, and the match results that are greater than 50% for all matchups? that's pretty shiny too.

edit: no need to respond. this is the idra fan thread. i just wanted to point out that minigun isn't as shitty as everyone keeps saying. mini beat idra. is he going to beat idra at mlg this weekend? i highly doubt it, but show the guy some respect..
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 08:41:40
May 31 2011 08:37 GMT
#11500
Dustin Browder thinks that you make alot of arguments! I chuckled a little bit

Developer Q&A-interview with timestamp linked in spoilers

Question: Have you heard the idrA-argument?
Dustin Browder: "What's the idrA-argument? He has many arguments!"

+ Show Spoiler +
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
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