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On April 23 2013 05:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 05:07 Incognoto wrote:
idra isn't at the EG lair anymore? i thought they had stopped using the EG lair but apparently it's still up because demuslim is there. i'm kind of confused where did everyone on EG go? Speaking of, Idra v Demuslim on stream now. Neo Planet S with Demu opening proxy Reapers. Idra did a ton of damage with a baneling bust and is going for another one. It's kinda base race-y as Demuslimg is doom-dropping. Idra loses his army and doesn't actually do much, leaving without a GG. Idra is pissed as all fuck. "Broken race, shit as fuck player" is the comment from Greg and Demuslim says "No GG, we all have our moments. It's no matter. I'm much better than him, and he knows it. He just has to get used to it." Demu is talking again: "Talking about the bad blood between me and Greg..." To paraphrase, Ben knows he's better than Idra, Idra hates losing to him and, during the glory days of the Lair, Ben would play poorly on purpose against Greg to give him free-ish wins. Since they sat next to one another, he didn't want to make things tense since Greg takes loses badly, especially loses to Demuslim. He also said any comments about race or imbalance were off the mark since Idra just failed an all-in and were indicative of a poor mindset. He sounded pretty sad about the whole thing.
so, after posting this here.. im curious. what did you expect to happen next?
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if only it was possible for mods to ban people jsut from a specific thread so we wouldnt have to wade through so many trolls and haters
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idra is way better than demuslim tho
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and there it begins, demuslim fanboys are going to come in this fanclub to defend his honor against these seven words of doom.
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On April 23 2013 05:53 Fortii wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 05:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:07 Incognoto wrote:
idra isn't at the EG lair anymore? i thought they had stopped using the EG lair but apparently it's still up because demuslim is there. i'm kind of confused where did everyone on EG go? Speaking of, Idra v Demuslim on stream now. Neo Planet S with Demu opening proxy Reapers. Idra did a ton of damage with a baneling bust and is going for another one. It's kinda base race-y as Demuslimg is doom-dropping. Idra loses his army and doesn't actually do much, leaving without a GG. Idra is pissed as all fuck. "Broken race, shit as fuck player" is the comment from Greg and Demuslim says "No GG, we all have our moments. It's no matter. I'm much better than him, and he knows it. He just has to get used to it." Demu is talking again: "Talking about the bad blood between me and Greg..." To paraphrase, Ben knows he's better than Idra, Idra hates losing to him and, during the glory days of the Lair, Ben would play poorly on purpose against Greg to give him free-ish wins. Since they sat next to one another, he didn't want to make things tense since Greg takes loses badly, especially loses to Demuslim. He also said any comments about race or imbalance were off the mark since Idra just failed an all-in and were indicative of a poor mindset. He sounded pretty sad about the whole thing. so, after posting this here.. im curious. what did you expect to happen next?
Nothing. It's just a sad state of affairs, and while we often get Idra's thoughts on other players, it's pretty rare to have the thoughts of the other guy at the same time. And I find it absolutely astonishing that a teammate felt he had to throw matches to keep the atmosphere in a teamhouse civil. If you find nothing to note in that dialog, well, that's for you to decide. But a player openly calling one of his teammates shitty on stream is a bit odd to me.
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On April 23 2013 05:53 Fortii wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 05:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:07 Incognoto wrote:
idra isn't at the EG lair anymore? i thought they had stopped using the EG lair but apparently it's still up because demuslim is there. i'm kind of confused where did everyone on EG go? Speaking of, Idra v Demuslim on stream now. Neo Planet S with Demu opening proxy Reapers. Idra did a ton of damage with a baneling bust and is going for another one. It's kinda base race-y as Demuslimg is doom-dropping. Idra loses his army and doesn't actually do much, leaving without a GG. Idra is pissed as all fuck. "Broken race, shit as fuck player" is the comment from Greg and Demuslim says "No GG, we all have our moments. It's no matter. I'm much better than him, and he knows it. He just has to get used to it." Demu is talking again: "Talking about the bad blood between me and Greg..." To paraphrase, Ben knows he's better than Idra, Idra hates losing to him and, during the glory days of the Lair, Ben would play poorly on purpose against Greg to give him free-ish wins. Since they sat next to one another, he didn't want to make things tense since Greg takes loses badly, especially loses to Demuslim. He also said any comments about race or imbalance were off the mark since Idra just failed an all-in and were indicative of a poor mindset. He sounded pretty sad about the whole thing. so, after posting this here.. im curious. what did you expect to happen next?
I like to cheer for Idra, and I do to think this is important "insider" insight on how he behaves.
Not the most positive read, but certainly explains a lot.
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what does it explain beside demus point of view, which is just what it is, his point of view.
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On April 23 2013 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 05:53 Fortii wrote:On April 23 2013 05:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:07 Incognoto wrote:
idra isn't at the EG lair anymore? i thought they had stopped using the EG lair but apparently it's still up because demuslim is there. i'm kind of confused where did everyone on EG go? Speaking of, Idra v Demuslim on stream now. Neo Planet S with Demu opening proxy Reapers. Idra did a ton of damage with a baneling bust and is going for another one. It's kinda base race-y as Demuslimg is doom-dropping. Idra loses his army and doesn't actually do much, leaving without a GG. Idra is pissed as all fuck. "Broken race, shit as fuck player" is the comment from Greg and Demuslim says "No GG, we all have our moments. It's no matter. I'm much better than him, and he knows it. He just has to get used to it." Demu is talking again: "Talking about the bad blood between me and Greg..." To paraphrase, Ben knows he's better than Idra, Idra hates losing to him and, during the glory days of the Lair, Ben would play poorly on purpose against Greg to give him free-ish wins. Since they sat next to one another, he didn't want to make things tense since Greg takes loses badly, especially loses to Demuslim. He also said any comments about race or imbalance were off the mark since Idra just failed an all-in and were indicative of a poor mindset. He sounded pretty sad about the whole thing. so, after posting this here.. im curious. what did you expect to happen next? Nothing. It's just a sad state of affairs, and while we often get Idra's thoughts on other players, it's pretty rare to have the thoughts of the other guy at the same time. And I find it absolutely astonishing that a teammate felt he had to throw matches to keep the atmosphere in a teamhouse civil. If you find nothing to note in that dialog, well, that's for you to decide. But a player openly calling one of his teammates shitty on stream is a bit odd to me.
welcome to the internet, where everything is true and noone jokes -.-
Demus a good friend of IdrA there just joking around with each other making drama so there viewrs skyrocket
if there was really tension between them then Demu would jsut sit somewhere else theres like a dozen computers in the EG lair at least and like 4 people using them
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On April 23 2013 06:10 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:53 Fortii wrote:On April 23 2013 05:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:07 Incognoto wrote:
idra isn't at the EG lair anymore? i thought they had stopped using the EG lair but apparently it's still up because demuslim is there. i'm kind of confused where did everyone on EG go? Speaking of, Idra v Demuslim on stream now. Neo Planet S with Demu opening proxy Reapers. Idra did a ton of damage with a baneling bust and is going for another one. It's kinda base race-y as Demuslimg is doom-dropping. Idra loses his army and doesn't actually do much, leaving without a GG. Idra is pissed as all fuck. "Broken race, shit as fuck player" is the comment from Greg and Demuslim says "No GG, we all have our moments. It's no matter. I'm much better than him, and he knows it. He just has to get used to it." Demu is talking again: "Talking about the bad blood between me and Greg..." To paraphrase, Ben knows he's better than Idra, Idra hates losing to him and, during the glory days of the Lair, Ben would play poorly on purpose against Greg to give him free-ish wins. Since they sat next to one another, he didn't want to make things tense since Greg takes loses badly, especially loses to Demuslim. He also said any comments about race or imbalance were off the mark since Idra just failed an all-in and were indicative of a poor mindset. He sounded pretty sad about the whole thing. so, after posting this here.. im curious. what did you expect to happen next? Nothing. It's just a sad state of affairs, and while we often get Idra's thoughts on other players, it's pretty rare to have the thoughts of the other guy at the same time. And I find it absolutely astonishing that a teammate felt he had to throw matches to keep the atmosphere in a teamhouse civil. If you find nothing to note in that dialog, well, that's for you to decide. But a player openly calling one of his teammates shitty on stream is a bit odd to me. welcome to the internet, where everything is true and noone jokes -.- Demus a good friend of IdrA there just joking around with each other making drama so there viewrs skyrocket if there was really tension between them then Demu would jsut sit somewhere else theres like a dozen computers in the EG lair at least and like 4 people using them
I mean, he is sitting somewhere else. Idra's moved into his own place. Demuslim's in the Lair. I watch Demuslim's stream pretty frequently and he's never said anything like this when other players were around.
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On April 23 2013 06:07 Fortii wrote:
what does it explain beside demus point of view, which is just what it is, his point of view.
The point of view of a guy who has lived 24/7 in the same house with Idra. Can you really say you have better judgement than him?
I wouldn't even mind if Idra was being a dick to his teammates, but it's obvious his way or practice and his attitude will never produce outstanding results. Unless he is actually willing to change.
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On April 23 2013 06:13 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 06:10 Forikorder wrote:On April 23 2013 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:53 Fortii wrote:On April 23 2013 05:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:07 Incognoto wrote:
idra isn't at the EG lair anymore? i thought they had stopped using the EG lair but apparently it's still up because demuslim is there. i'm kind of confused where did everyone on EG go? Speaking of, Idra v Demuslim on stream now. Neo Planet S with Demu opening proxy Reapers. Idra did a ton of damage with a baneling bust and is going for another one. It's kinda base race-y as Demuslimg is doom-dropping. Idra loses his army and doesn't actually do much, leaving without a GG. Idra is pissed as all fuck. "Broken race, shit as fuck player" is the comment from Greg and Demuslim says "No GG, we all have our moments. It's no matter. I'm much better than him, and he knows it. He just has to get used to it." Demu is talking again: "Talking about the bad blood between me and Greg..." To paraphrase, Ben knows he's better than Idra, Idra hates losing to him and, during the glory days of the Lair, Ben would play poorly on purpose against Greg to give him free-ish wins. Since they sat next to one another, he didn't want to make things tense since Greg takes loses badly, especially loses to Demuslim. He also said any comments about race or imbalance were off the mark since Idra just failed an all-in and were indicative of a poor mindset. He sounded pretty sad about the whole thing. so, after posting this here.. im curious. what did you expect to happen next? Nothing. It's just a sad state of affairs, and while we often get Idra's thoughts on other players, it's pretty rare to have the thoughts of the other guy at the same time. And I find it absolutely astonishing that a teammate felt he had to throw matches to keep the atmosphere in a teamhouse civil. If you find nothing to note in that dialog, well, that's for you to decide. But a player openly calling one of his teammates shitty on stream is a bit odd to me. welcome to the internet, where everything is true and noone jokes -.- Demus a good friend of IdrA there just joking around with each other making drama so there viewrs skyrocket if there was really tension between them then Demu would jsut sit somewhere else theres like a dozen computers in the EG lair at least and like 4 people using them I mean, he is sitting somewhere else. Idra's moved into his own place. Demuslim's in the Lair. I watch Demuslim's stream pretty frequently and he's never said anything like this when other players were around.
beside like 7k viewers.
On April 23 2013 06:14 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 06:07 Fortii wrote:
what does it explain beside demus point of view, which is just what it is, his point of view. The point of view of a guy who has lived 24/7 in the same house with Idra. Can you really say you have better judgement than him? I wouldn't even mind if Idra was being a dick to his teammates, but it's obvious his way or practice and his attitude will never produce outstanding results. Unless he is actually willing to change.
and its really sad that you have actually no idea what im pointing at. im not talking about my judgement. and you have no idea about his way of practice and his attitude.
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On April 23 2013 06:13 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 06:10 Forikorder wrote:On April 23 2013 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:53 Fortii wrote:On April 23 2013 05:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:07 Incognoto wrote:
idra isn't at the EG lair anymore? i thought they had stopped using the EG lair but apparently it's still up because demuslim is there. i'm kind of confused where did everyone on EG go? Speaking of, Idra v Demuslim on stream now. Neo Planet S with Demu opening proxy Reapers. Idra did a ton of damage with a baneling bust and is going for another one. It's kinda base race-y as Demuslimg is doom-dropping. Idra loses his army and doesn't actually do much, leaving without a GG. Idra is pissed as all fuck. "Broken race, shit as fuck player" is the comment from Greg and Demuslim says "No GG, we all have our moments. It's no matter. I'm much better than him, and he knows it. He just has to get used to it." Demu is talking again: "Talking about the bad blood between me and Greg..." To paraphrase, Ben knows he's better than Idra, Idra hates losing to him and, during the glory days of the Lair, Ben would play poorly on purpose against Greg to give him free-ish wins. Since they sat next to one another, he didn't want to make things tense since Greg takes loses badly, especially loses to Demuslim. He also said any comments about race or imbalance were off the mark since Idra just failed an all-in and were indicative of a poor mindset. He sounded pretty sad about the whole thing. so, after posting this here.. im curious. what did you expect to happen next? Nothing. It's just a sad state of affairs, and while we often get Idra's thoughts on other players, it's pretty rare to have the thoughts of the other guy at the same time. And I find it absolutely astonishing that a teammate felt he had to throw matches to keep the atmosphere in a teamhouse civil. If you find nothing to note in that dialog, well, that's for you to decide. But a player openly calling one of his teammates shitty on stream is a bit odd to me. welcome to the internet, where everything is true and noone jokes -.- Demus a good friend of IdrA there just joking around with each other making drama so there viewrs skyrocket if there was really tension between them then Demu would jsut sit somewhere else theres like a dozen computers in the EG lair at least and like 4 people using them I mean, he is sitting somewhere else. Idra's moved into his own place. Demuslim's in the Lair. I watch Demuslim's stream pretty frequently and he's never said anything like this when other players were around.
IdrA moved because the lair is moving to near where IdrA currently is Demu is still in the lair because the new one isnt ready yet
stop trying to create drama where none exists
everyone ive ever heard comment on IdrA in real life (and not his game personality) saids hes a really chill guy whos not at all like how he acts in front of the streamer
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There's a huge difference between saying something to a lot of viewers and saying it to a lot of viewers with the person you're talking about sitting next to you.
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On April 23 2013 06:10 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:53 Fortii wrote:On April 23 2013 05:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:07 Incognoto wrote:
idra isn't at the EG lair anymore? i thought they had stopped using the EG lair but apparently it's still up because demuslim is there. i'm kind of confused where did everyone on EG go? Speaking of, Idra v Demuslim on stream now. Neo Planet S with Demu opening proxy Reapers. Idra did a ton of damage with a baneling bust and is going for another one. It's kinda base race-y as Demuslimg is doom-dropping. Idra loses his army and doesn't actually do much, leaving without a GG. Idra is pissed as all fuck. "Broken race, shit as fuck player" is the comment from Greg and Demuslim says "No GG, we all have our moments. It's no matter. I'm much better than him, and he knows it. He just has to get used to it." Demu is talking again: "Talking about the bad blood between me and Greg..." To paraphrase, Ben knows he's better than Idra, Idra hates losing to him and, during the glory days of the Lair, Ben would play poorly on purpose against Greg to give him free-ish wins. Since they sat next to one another, he didn't want to make things tense since Greg takes loses badly, especially loses to Demuslim. He also said any comments about race or imbalance were off the mark since Idra just failed an all-in and were indicative of a poor mindset. He sounded pretty sad about the whole thing. so, after posting this here.. im curious. what did you expect to happen next? Nothing. It's just a sad state of affairs, and while we often get Idra's thoughts on other players, it's pretty rare to have the thoughts of the other guy at the same time. And I find it absolutely astonishing that a teammate felt he had to throw matches to keep the atmosphere in a teamhouse civil. If you find nothing to note in that dialog, well, that's for you to decide. But a player openly calling one of his teammates shitty on stream is a bit odd to me. welcome to the internet, where everything is true and noone jokes -.- Demus a good friend of IdrA there just joking around with each other making drama so there viewrs skyrocket if there was really tension between them then Demu would jsut sit somewhere else theres like a dozen computers in the EG lair at least and like 4 people using them
I really think you are off-base with this. There are obviously issues here. I wish there weren't, but it's clear there are. These are pro-gamers not professional actors, the words are sincere.
Also, I'm literally not seeing any "haters" or trolls looking back on the last couple of pages. I think people need to learn to make the distinction between a fan(by definition: cares) wanting to talk about the current issues of said player to try and understand and a hater/troll.
If this thread is supposed to be strictly positive talk, I'm not sure where people who care(read: fans) are supposed to talk about current issues that are not always positive in nature.
I'm pretty sure most of the people who have been posting here since things started to get rough for Greg genuinely care and want to see him improve in every way because the potential is and has always been there. To see him do literally nothing but hate the game and just about every player he comes across and just have a generally angry outlook on the eSports life(far exceeding the usual for him) is tough to watch as a fan. You want to see that change and just ignoring the situation and interpreting everything as acting or joking is the same as sticking your fingers in your ear as a child and screaming "LALALALA".
I think positive discourse can be had in this matter.
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On April 23 2013 06:16 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
There's a huge difference between saying something to a lot of viewers and saying it to a lot of viewers with the person you're talking about sitting next to you.
ooor *conspiracy* demu just wants a bit of fame riding on his recent (surprisingly hots-release accompanied) improvement of "play" by talking about idras "behaviour", which never fails to create.. stuff in this community
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On April 23 2013 06:15 Fortii wrote:
and its really sad that you have actually no idea what im pointing at. im not talking about my judgement. and you have no idea about his way of practice and his attitude.
Do tell me what you are pointing at? I just heard a bit of insight about his practice and his attitude from Demuslim, a guy who lived in the same house as him. Can you match that?
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On April 23 2013 06:20 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 06:15 Fortii wrote:
and its really sad that you have actually no idea what im pointing at. im not talking about my judgement. and you have no idea about his way of practice and his attitude.
Do tell me what you are pointing at? I just heard a bit of insight about his practice and his attitude from Demuslim, a guy who lived in the same house as him. Can you match that?
i dont need to and have no desire to match or top that. i just told u: its just demus opinion. and nothing more.
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On April 23 2013 06:15 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 06:13 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 06:10 Forikorder wrote:On April 23 2013 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:53 Fortii wrote:On April 23 2013 05:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On April 23 2013 05:07 Incognoto wrote:
idra isn't at the EG lair anymore? i thought they had stopped using the EG lair but apparently it's still up because demuslim is there. i'm kind of confused where did everyone on EG go? Speaking of, Idra v Demuslim on stream now. Neo Planet S with Demu opening proxy Reapers. Idra did a ton of damage with a baneling bust and is going for another one. It's kinda base race-y as Demuslimg is doom-dropping. Idra loses his army and doesn't actually do much, leaving without a GG. Idra is pissed as all fuck. "Broken race, shit as fuck player" is the comment from Greg and Demuslim says "No GG, we all have our moments. It's no matter. I'm much better than him, and he knows it. He just has to get used to it." Demu is talking again: "Talking about the bad blood between me and Greg..." To paraphrase, Ben knows he's better than Idra, Idra hates losing to him and, during the glory days of the Lair, Ben would play poorly on purpose against Greg to give him free-ish wins. Since they sat next to one another, he didn't want to make things tense since Greg takes loses badly, especially loses to Demuslim. He also said any comments about race or imbalance were off the mark since Idra just failed an all-in and were indicative of a poor mindset. He sounded pretty sad about the whole thing. so, after posting this here.. im curious. what did you expect to happen next? Nothing. It's just a sad state of affairs, and while we often get Idra's thoughts on other players, it's pretty rare to have the thoughts of the other guy at the same time. And I find it absolutely astonishing that a teammate felt he had to throw matches to keep the atmosphere in a teamhouse civil. If you find nothing to note in that dialog, well, that's for you to decide. But a player openly calling one of his teammates shitty on stream is a bit odd to me. welcome to the internet, where everything is true and noone jokes -.- Demus a good friend of IdrA there just joking around with each other making drama so there viewrs skyrocket if there was really tension between them then Demu would jsut sit somewhere else theres like a dozen computers in the EG lair at least and like 4 people using them I mean, he is sitting somewhere else. Idra's moved into his own place. Demuslim's in the Lair. I watch Demuslim's stream pretty frequently and he's never said anything like this when other players were around. IdrA moved because the lair is moving to near where IdrA currently is Demu is still in the lair because the new one isnt ready yet stop trying to create drama where none exists everyone ive ever heard comment on IdrA in real life (and not his game personality) saids hes a really chill guy whos not at all like how he acts in front of the streamer
As for the lair, yes it's gonna be in SF, but it either won't be open for a while or Idra won't be living there (or he got a really sweet deal on a lease, which is possible). You can be a really chill person who gets uptight about things that are important to you, and that's how Greg is. He can be wonderful to be around 90% of the time, but the 10% when he's sitting at his computer muttering "fuck this game" over and over must be tough to deal with.
This thread has definitely seen better days. It's a good place to post when things are going well but otherwise it's like the Salem Witch Trials.
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i dont think there will be a new lair. he mentioned something about a "production area" they come to and do stuff, but they all gonna life by theirselfes afaik
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