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Torumfroll
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
290 Posts
February 04 2011 23:46 GMT
#3801
Huk is obviously a player with potential, otherwise TL wouldnt have recruited him. I do however agree that his play needs some refinement in comparison to IdrA who has a clear and distinct style that he wants to play. I dont think Huk has really found his comfort zone yet but I think he will do fine in code A, he might not get promoted to code S this season but he could definitely get up there in the next.

I wouldnt call Huk any more abusive than MC to be honest, MC has a lot of 1 base pushes that he does and I havent seen a lot of macro play from him either, and people praise him as the best toss in the world.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
February 04 2011 23:51 GMT
#3802
On February 05 2011 07:40 Usagi wrote:
Why do always seem to be a clash betwheen Huk and Idra's fanbase? guys, if you dont like one another leave it there, bashing on the other is usually driven by a lack of real knowledge on the other part.
Besides, Huk didnt have real chances to show his play yet, not qualifying for GSL open season 3 was normal since he was obviously jetlagged, we will see how he fares in the code A with his vast KR ladder experience, I can only wish him the best.
And to reach the GSL code S final only to be destroyed by IdrA of course


This. I really get the feeling that the fanbases are much more rabid about the "rivalry" (not even sure you could realistically call it that, they haven't really met often in tournaments) than the players, although they may not be bff.

Regardless, it's pointless for anyone here to argue about who is better at starcraft. They're both good players, and the tournament record will tell the tale in the end.
perptuity
Profile Joined February 2011
8 Posts
February 05 2011 00:23 GMT
#3803
RELEASE THE GRAKEN~~~!!!!

LOVE IDRA.
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 05 2011 00:26 GMT
#3804
On February 05 2011 08:51 Eschaton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 07:40 Usagi wrote:
Why do always seem to be a clash betwheen Huk and Idra's fanbase? guys, if you dont like one another leave it there, bashing on the other is usually driven by a lack of real knowledge on the other part.
Besides, Huk didnt have real chances to show his play yet, not qualifying for GSL open season 3 was normal since he was obviously jetlagged, we will see how he fares in the code A with his vast KR ladder experience, I can only wish him the best.
And to reach the GSL code S final only to be destroyed by IdrA of course


This. I really get the feeling that the fanbases are much more rabid about the "rivalry" (not even sure you could realistically call it that, they haven't really met often in tournaments) than the players, although they may not be bff.

Regardless, it's pointless for anyone here to argue about who is better at starcraft. They're both good players, and the tournament record will tell the tale in the end.



Yes the tournament tale will

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He made his presence known in the Winners Bracket Finals against Huk with a crushing 2-0 victory.
marineking will u huk my bigtt1 ilu
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
February 05 2011 00:27 GMT
#3805
On February 05 2011 09:26 SlapMySalami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 08:51 Eschaton wrote:
On February 05 2011 07:40 Usagi wrote:
Why do always seem to be a clash betwheen Huk and Idra's fanbase? guys, if you dont like one another leave it there, bashing on the other is usually driven by a lack of real knowledge on the other part.
Besides, Huk didnt have real chances to show his play yet, not qualifying for GSL open season 3 was normal since he was obviously jetlagged, we will see how he fares in the code A with his vast KR ladder experience, I can only wish him the best.
And to reach the GSL code S final only to be destroyed by IdrA of course


This. I really get the feeling that the fanbases are much more rabid about the "rivalry" (not even sure you could realistically call it that, they haven't really met often in tournaments) than the players, although they may not be bff.

Regardless, it's pointless for anyone here to argue about who is better at starcraft. They're both good players, and the tournament record will tell the tale in the end.



Yes the tournament tale will

MLG DC spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-d-c-starcraft-2-action-idra-swarms-to-the-finals-2

He made his presence known in the Winners Bracket Finals against Huk with a crushing 2-0 victory.


We might as well call ourselves Republicans and Democrats. I give up.
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
February 05 2011 00:31 GMT
#3806
On February 05 2011 08:37 gregnog wrote:
Huk is abusive. Likes to get a move deathballs and... a move. Dont see much micro other then when he is 4 gating. Maybe that is just my zerg bias.


watch his stream man, his FFs are almost or as good as MC's forcefield. they are freaking deadly lol
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
February 05 2011 00:53 GMT
#3807
On February 05 2011 09:27 Eschaton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 09:26 SlapMySalami wrote:
On February 05 2011 08:51 Eschaton wrote:
On February 05 2011 07:40 Usagi wrote:
Why do always seem to be a clash betwheen Huk and Idra's fanbase? guys, if you dont like one another leave it there, bashing on the other is usually driven by a lack of real knowledge on the other part.
Besides, Huk didnt have real chances to show his play yet, not qualifying for GSL open season 3 was normal since he was obviously jetlagged, we will see how he fares in the code A with his vast KR ladder experience, I can only wish him the best.
And to reach the GSL code S final only to be destroyed by IdrA of course


This. I really get the feeling that the fanbases are much more rabid about the "rivalry" (not even sure you could realistically call it that, they haven't really met often in tournaments) than the players, although they may not be bff.

Regardless, it's pointless for anyone here to argue about who is better at starcraft. They're both good players, and the tournament record will tell the tale in the end.



Yes the tournament tale will

MLG DC spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-d-c-starcraft-2-action-idra-swarms-to-the-finals-2

He made his presence known in the Winners Bracket Finals against Huk with a crushing 2-0 victory.


We might as well call ourselves Republicans and Democrats. I give up.


I feel with you...
ProdigySim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 00:58:41
February 05 2011 00:58 GMT
#3808
I've had the "Kill Everybody" dubstep song from IdrA's stream stuck in my head for the past 3 days. He has pretty awesome music on his stream. Nothing like loading up an IdrA stream to hear "I want to kill everybody in the world." Perfect!

(This song)

On February 05 2011 04:47 decaf wrote:
I think not only IdrA but many Zergs need to look twice; I see them often run away with 30 mutas from 10 stimmed marines with no medivac support, if you stayed you could do some heavy damage.
If there's really just 10 stimmed marines there, just leave with your mutas and come back when stim is over. 10 stimmed marines can do a lot, and it costs no gas to replenish them.

About the Huk/Ladder thing, remember the ChoyafOu (I think) scandal? When you lose a game you lose a smaller amount of points than you gain when you win. If you play enough games with even a 50% win rate (like most people get) you can easily move up the ladder quite quickly.
Ladder position isn't a great metric for skill, especially when we're comparing IdrA to HuK, who seem to ladder in far different amounts.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 05 2011 01:12 GMT
#3809
On February 05 2011 09:58 ProdigySim wrote:
About the Huk/Ladder thing, remember the ChoyafOu (I think) scandal? When you lose a game you lose a smaller amount of points than you gain when you win. If you play enough games with even a 50% win rate (like most people get) you can easily move up the ladder quite quickly.

That was mainly because of the difference in the new master rank of around 2400 and the true mmr that was around 3500 for Choya, actually. The point inflation lasts until that point. Even after that, though, you might sometimes get 1 point more when you win than if you'd lose vs an even opponent.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
endlives
Profile Joined November 2010
28 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:23:30
February 05 2011 01:21 GMT
#3810
On February 05 2011 04:39 Jotoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 04:06 Jotoco wrote:
On February 04 2011 17:58 endlives wrote:
On February 04 2011 14:10 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:
So Idra just 4-0 vVv I guess...


Is there a link to replays / vods for this tourney?


I want to know too.

What tornament was this in? Machinima? Gosu? There are SO MANY team tournaments that it is difficult to know.


Found it:

http://www.scleague.net/



Aw man no replays/VODs? Just one lame forum post.

Idra loses a ladder game and BM"s half the world sees it on youtube.

Idra ALL-KILLS another pro gaming team and it gets swept under the rug.

NO JUSTICE I TELL YA! NO JUSTICE AT ALL! Doesn't EG want to promote its players accomplishments?? Or am I just a dumb ass who can't find them.
gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
February 05 2011 01:41 GMT
#3811
hey i wrote a recap of idras games from Code S RO16. I think its pretty fantastic, so you guys should check it out, if you're interested. thanks!

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=190432
(TT~TT)
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
February 05 2011 02:03 GMT
#3812
I'm a huge IdrA fan and didn't think HuK was THAT great compared to him before moving to Korea. If you guys actually watch his stream now, you'll see how much HuK has improved. The kid is amazing, he's going to do really well in GSL. Just watch. HuK's mechanics are top notch and so are his timings, you guys are nuts for saying he isn't good. I guess it's the same people claiming Jinro was a baddy for not qualifying for GSL 1 and 2. He sure shut you guys up. Nonetheless, if there were an epic clash between IdrA and HuK in GSL I'd cheer for IdrA.
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
February 05 2011 02:16 GMT
#3813
Huk is an amazing play, I REALLY like him AND his play style.

With that said, I think that IMO white-ra in the best protoss. In the world. Yes, better than any Korean protoss. Huk is up there with the best, but White-ra just is something else. This man is getting rich playing starcraft, you don't see that everyday.
raulista-7
Profile Joined January 2011
United States32 Posts
February 05 2011 02:21 GMT
#3814
guys stop discussing huk. he is not better than idrA but i still like huk. i mean come on guys, you are just being mean. stop it!
but OMFG!!!!! idrA just raped MVP! lol! he just out microed and out macroed him! lol! EPIC EPIC EPIC! best game everrrrrrr!!! i have watched it a zillion times now. still can't get enough of it! but watching it live was priceless! now my life is complete!
AND yes! artosis has to cast this one! JUST HAS TO! and i hope husky and hd cast it to. so that the newbie fans get a taste of idrA. also would love to see day9 discuss it in detail! this was just so great! so many transitions! omg! epic epic epic! this video should definitely go viral!
IDRA FIGHTING!
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
February 05 2011 02:29 GMT
#3815
That indeed was an amazing game. Shows what happens when Idra's game comes together. So gdlk
Better than Pokebunny
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 02:34:38
February 05 2011 02:31 GMT
#3816
The bigger SC2 becomes, the more ridiculous attacks between rival fans there will be. Everyone keeps on going about how we want SC2 to be a real competitive sport - well, heated arguments over the internet are just the tip of the iceberg in established sports. I have been beaten up on the street just for wearing a scarf with my team's colours... I'm not saying that it's something good and that this is the way it should be, neither am I saying that it is not. However, these discussion will only become more and more intense with time, so get used to them. If you want to improve the quality of the forums posts, try to shift these discussions into something productive - but telling people to stop doing is pointless and, essentially, flooding the threads.

On February 05 2011 07:46 unoriginalname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 07:16 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
It's ok to value others above him. To say Idra is better is fine. To say Huk isn't good is simple ignorance and unwarranted. It's like people claiming Idra isn't good because he didn't win GSL; yet all driven by personal like/dislike, something which would also be ignorant and unwarranted. Tournaments are #1 for skill measurement but there's no doubt that doing good in the Korean ladder means you're very good. Not the best, because that is determined by tournaments, but very good nonetheless.


While your statement is correct, you must understand the context you're posting in. IdrA himself has stated his dislike of HuK's play, so you should presume his fans would also jump on that idea because it came from IdrA and internalise it as their own notions regarding HuK's playing ability.

Eh... No, no one should presume such a thing. Or I guess I should not open games with "gl hf" and "gg" before I quit, even when I've been cheese, just because I am an Idra fan? People are often stupid but if you explain their views and motivations this way and even assume that they have them, you would end up becoming a really narrow-minded person. For example, there are perfectly fine reasons not to like Huk - his play is all-in-ish, while the other two most popular players, Idra and Jinro, are macro-oriented. And yet, you simply explain people's attitude towards Huk with Idra's statements.
PhiGgoT
Profile Joined August 2004
Vietnam151 Posts
February 05 2011 02:35 GMT
#3817
What's funny is all the gold level idiots come here to say "huks understanding of this game is not good" lol.
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
February 05 2011 03:10 GMT
#3818
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Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
February 05 2011 03:19 GMT
#3819
Since when was vVv a pro gaming team, lol.
What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 05 2011 03:28 GMT
#3820
Wow, coming from the BW boards I thought TBLS fanboyism ran awry...good lord this is 10x worse. o.O Both players are great...sure I like IdrA, and I don't like that 100% of games I've seen HuK vs. Idra have been cannon rushes, but still...Huk's pretty good by any standard.
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