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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 21:16:58
February 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#34061
Yes, IdrA does make mistakes. But it is one thing to point those mistakes out, and it is another thing to "try to help him improve." IdrA is a pro-gamer living in a pro-gaming house right now...he honestly doesn't need ANY of our help for game analysis. Whether you're wrong or right, it doesn't matter because no one will take the post seriously.

And about the "IdrA needs to improve his mindset." Come on guys, shut up lol. People have been saying that since at least page 290. I literally randomly picked page 300, went back 10 pages and the word "mindset" popped up on the "find search". Please tell me why you think IdrA or anyone would suddenly start listening to your after about 28,000 posts? Yes, it is debatable, but no one cares any more because it's been discussed to death. Make a thread on it if you're really interested, but please leave it out of the fan club.

edit: is it just me, or they took off the mod warning lol
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 21:23:08
February 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#34062
On February 07 2012 06:16 Whole wrote:
Make a thread on it if you're really interested, but please leave it out of the fan club.

Since when do you get to decide what topics are allowed in this fan club?

Topics about Idras mindset are possibly more relevant then ever, thats why people keep bringing it up. I'd rather have a fanclub that has constructive discussion and criticism rather than a pointless circlejerk.
ArtThouAngry
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada146 Posts
February 06 2012 21:28 GMT
#34063
On a note other than 1 BO1 that was an all in which IdrA lost, what happened to the mod banner above the fanclub? It's gone...
IdrA, GoOdy, Axslav FIGHTING!!!!!!!
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 06 2012 21:31 GMT
#34064
On February 07 2012 06:22 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:16 Whole wrote:
Make a thread on it if you're really interested, but please leave it out of the fan club.

Since when do you get to decide what topics are allowed in this fan club?

Topics about Idras mindset are possibly more relevant then ever, thats why people keep bringing it up. I'd rather have a fanclub that has constructive discussion and criticism rather than a pointless circlejerk.

People saying that IdrA needs a mindset change has never made constructive discussion, and I have 1400 pages of evidence that points to that.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
February 06 2012 21:35 GMT
#34065
I agree with those saying that he engaged poorly. Not sure why he followed the army up the ramp when he should have just kept producing and keeping his army together. You could hear it in Grubby and Gretorps casting too.. they were so confident that IdrA had the advantage and was going to win. Half way through the battles both guys kind of just paused before saying that HerO was looking to be in a good position.

First event I've seen in a few days and it was definitely disappointing. With that said, IdrA was only a few minor errors away from beating Hero in a macro game on one of the best macro maps in his worse match up. Not a complete failure. Wonder when the games were played though.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 06 2012 21:37 GMT
#34066
I still don't understand how it doesn't belong in the fanclub, I mean we're not here to directly talk to Idra anyway, as far as I know. If we're here to support him, discussing how he could become better in my opinion definitely is supporting him. Mndset is still his biggest problem, it has been ever since like 2007 so it's pretty logical it'd have been mentioned in 2010 as well.

I really don't get why in a fanclub you can only say stuff like "go idra go", recognizing the issues is quite important in my opinion.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 06 2012 21:40 GMT
#34067
On February 07 2012 06:31 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:22 Bagi wrote:
On February 07 2012 06:16 Whole wrote:
Make a thread on it if you're really interested, but please leave it out of the fan club.

Since when do you get to decide what topics are allowed in this fan club?

Topics about Idras mindset are possibly more relevant then ever, thats why people keep bringing it up. I'd rather have a fanclub that has constructive discussion and criticism rather than a pointless circlejerk.

People saying that IdrA needs a mindset change has never made constructive discussion, and I have 1400 pages of evidence that points to that.

That's because you and a few others keep interrupting what could be actual discussion.

You are trying to turn this thread into pure Idra worship and dismiss any topics that dare to suggest Idra is doing something wrong. If you want to moderate the discussion, you can always make your own forum dedicated to Idra worship where you and your friends can keep doing your own thing. Meanwhile, people here should be allowed to discuss all things Idra-related, whether its good or bad.
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 21:43:13
February 06 2012 21:42 GMT
#34068
On February 07 2012 06:37 Shikyo wrote:
I still don't understand how it doesn't belong in the fanclub, I mean we're not here to directly talk to Idra anyway, as far as I know. If we're here to support him, discussing how he could become better in my opinion definitely is supporting him. Mndset is still his biggest problem, it has been ever since like 2007 so it's pretty logical it'd have been mentioned in 2010 as well.

I really don't get why in a fanclub you can only say stuff like "go idra go", recognizing the issues is quite important in my opinion.


I think the point Whole made was that it has been discussed to great length and it hasn't yielded any constructive result. It is a problem of his and talking about it in his fanclub will not solve it. It makes for a pointless discussion, though I personally don't have anything against the discussion it is just that imo... pointless.
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 06 2012 21:54 GMT
#34069
On February 07 2012 06:40 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:31 Whole wrote:
On February 07 2012 06:22 Bagi wrote:
On February 07 2012 06:16 Whole wrote:
Make a thread on it if you're really interested, but please leave it out of the fan club.

Since when do you get to decide what topics are allowed in this fan club?

Topics about Idras mindset are possibly more relevant then ever, thats why people keep bringing it up. I'd rather have a fanclub that has constructive discussion and criticism rather than a pointless circlejerk.

People saying that IdrA needs a mindset change has never made constructive discussion, and I have 1400 pages of evidence that points to that.

That's because you and a few others keep interrupting what could be actual discussion.

You are trying to turn this thread into pure Idra worship and dismiss any topics that dare to suggest Idra is doing something wrong. If you want to moderate the discussion, you can always make your own forum dedicated to Idra worship where you and your friends can keep doing your own thing. Meanwhile, people here should be allowed to discuss all things Idra-related, whether its good or bad.


This isn't an Idra worship thread. This is the Idra fanclub thread. There are lots of topics in here that don't involve sucking up to Idra. Whole's point is that talking about Idra's mindset is sort of like talking about Idra's BM; it's kind of pointless. Nothing is gained from it and people just end up mucking up the thread with pointless debates (as it's been done in the past few pages without anything interesting to read whatsoever). When I come to this thread I'm looking for interesting tidbits to read, interviews, funny pictures, when is Idra going to play in a tournament, who his opponent is, etc. It's actually kind of nice to be able to talk about Idra without having to sort through the bullshit you read about Idra in the other threads. So please take your "relevant idra mindset" discussions somewhere else. I'm not trying to be mean or anything but I'd sincerely like to keep the Idra thread clean.

PS: Call me Idra's third biggest fan? :p
maru lover forever
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
February 06 2012 22:00 GMT
#34070
On February 07 2012 06:40 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:31 Whole wrote:
On February 07 2012 06:22 Bagi wrote:
On February 07 2012 06:16 Whole wrote:
Make a thread on it if you're really interested, but please leave it out of the fan club.

Since when do you get to decide what topics are allowed in this fan club?

Topics about Idras mindset are possibly more relevant then ever, thats why people keep bringing it up. I'd rather have a fanclub that has constructive discussion and criticism rather than a pointless circlejerk.

People saying that IdrA needs a mindset change has never made constructive discussion, and I have 1400 pages of evidence that points to that.

That's because you and a few others keep interrupting what could be actual discussion.

You are trying to turn this thread into pure Idra worship and dismiss any topics that dare to suggest Idra is doing something wrong. If you want to moderate the discussion, you can always make your own forum dedicated to Idra worship where you and your friends can keep doing your own thing. Meanwhile, people here should be allowed to discuss all things Idra-related, whether its good or bad.


You're acting incredibly ignorant, on the basis that Whole has contributed so much to this fanclub and has been owner / been here since the start I find it incredulous that you then say such a statement.

No Whole, like me want whats best for Idra. What does this mean? It means being realistic ontop of optimistic, I would love to see Idra's mindset towards the game change, towards balance change, when did we establish that? Probably the day when he left against Jinros bunker rush, if after a whole year and Incontrols guidance he hasn't changed that I'm going to make realistic assumptions that Idra isn't going to change it. Beating the subject to death when it's already dead isn't beneficial to the fanclub and if you can't be bothered to go check the discussion then you shouldn't be posting about it in the first place
The problem when arrogant people come in, and attempt to tell people who have been here and seen it for way longer, to let the cycle continue, when they try to break it.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 06 2012 22:11 GMT
#34071
I think the biggest thing is that discussions of IdrA's mindset inevitably leads to circular discussion: he needs to change his mindset but no amount of discussion is going to change it and everything that can be said has been said... multiple times before...

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
February 06 2012 22:20 GMT
#34072
On February 07 2012 07:11 CeriseCherries wrote:
I think the biggest thing is that discussions of IdrA's mindset inevitably leads to circular discussion: he needs to change his mindset but no amount of discussion is going to change it and everything that can be said has been said... multiple times before...



This, so much.
Not sure what you guys think you are accomplishing. Everyone already knows his mindset can get in the way.
Funguuuuu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States198 Posts
February 06 2012 22:26 GMT
#34073
Why was the mod warning taken off the top of the page?
The night is dark and full of Terrans
Lokerek
Profile Joined December 2011
United States441 Posts
February 06 2012 22:34 GMT
#34074
On February 07 2012 07:26 Funguuuuu wrote:
Why was the mod warning taken off the top of the page?


Because warning imbeciles to refrain from posting hate in this fanclub is pointless ?
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 22:35:59
February 06 2012 22:34 GMT
#34075
this thread NEEDS that mod edit. otherwise this place get out of control after idra losses. IMO there is enough of that in LR threads and on reddit we dont need (the trolls, the anti-fans) showing up here. and you be surpised at how often that banner stopped them from posting.

llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
February 06 2012 22:34 GMT
#34076
On February 07 2012 07:26 Funguuuuu wrote:
Why was the mod warning taken off the top of the page?

Because the mother bird thinks we are old enough to fly.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 22:36:17
February 06 2012 22:35 GMT
#34077
Since when does any topic here accomplish anything? Fans should be able to discuss all aspects of Idra as long as its not blatant trolling. Until a mod comes by and makes all discussion with negative connotations forbidden, none of you people have any say in the matter, so stop playing backseat mods and let people post about the topics they want to talk about.

The point is that theres a difference between a fan and a fanboy. Right now we have fanboys trying to dictate which topics are allowed and which aren't, and that's one sure way to make the fanclub completely irrelevant.
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
February 06 2012 22:37 GMT
#34078
Maybe we should stop discussing why there is no mod warning about not posting on subject and instead post on subject?
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 22:46:27
February 06 2012 22:45 GMT
#34079
We might be using a different meaning of accomplish than you. When we talk about accomplish, we mean something that is new, enlightening, or funny -- something that causes a worthwhile discussion. The "IdrA mindset" topic is none of those. Yes, it was an acceptable topic a thousand or so pages ago, but everything has been said about it. Not one person has made any new point about it since about page 700. It is the same few comments every time it is brought up. But sure, let's wait for a mod.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
February 06 2012 22:58 GMT
#34080
On February 07 2012 07:35 Bagi wrote:
Since when does any topic here accomplish anything? Fans should be able to discuss all aspects of Idra as long as its not blatant trolling. Until a mod comes by and makes all discussion with negative connotations forbidden, none of you people have any say in the matter, so stop playing backseat mods and let people post about the topics they want to talk about.

The point is that theres a difference between a fan and a fanboy. Right now we have fanboys trying to dictate which topics are allowed and which aren't, and that's one sure way to make the fanclub completely irrelevant.


The arrogance with which you post is really astounding.

If you want to discuss Idra's mindset, something that has been discussed for the whole of the year, again, then feel free to do it somewhere else because it's already been brought up multiple times in the 1600 pages of this thread
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
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