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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
February 06 2012 23:01 GMT
#34081
On February 07 2012 07:26 Funguuuuu wrote:
Why was the mod warning taken off the top of the page?


The public note was out of date so it was taken down. We're still in the middle of discussing Idra's fan page. In the meantime, don't be dumb.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 23:07:46
February 06 2012 23:07 GMT
#34082
Just make Whole mod of the fanclub subforum, problem solved. Us IdrA supporters can take care of the trolls on our own if you'd let us.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 06 2012 23:13 GMT
#34083
On February 07 2012 07:35 Bagi wrote:
Since when does any topic here accomplish anything? Fans should be able to discuss all aspects of Idra as long as its not blatant trolling. Until a mod comes by and makes all discussion with negative connotations forbidden, none of you people have any say in the matter, so stop playing backseat mods and let people post about the topics they want to talk about.

The point is that theres a difference between a fan and a fanboy. Right now we have fanboys trying to dictate which topics are allowed and which aren't, and that's one sure way to make the fanclub completely irrelevant.

i come to the fanclub to read positive notes about idra. what he has accomplished, what he is doing, future games, new cheerfuls, etc. not to hear random negative bullshit from bronze level players (and posters for that matter).

if you want to criticize and generally be negative, go elsewhere. start with the LR threads, you can enjoy like-minded people there.

am i ignoring that idra has been playing like absolute shit and i cringe when i watch my favorite player on GSL, etc. lately? no. i am well aware of that. but i dont need to read you say it in his fan club thread over and over.

and stop bashing whole, without him this fanclub thread would be utter shit. for all intents and purposes, its his thread. the guy has a serious stalking problem, and we love him for it. ;-)
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
February 06 2012 23:16 GMT
#34084
Yeah, it's actually not a bad idea Many of us read pretty much every single post that's been made here, and I doubt we'd come to abuse the power somehow

WHOLE FOR MOD IN IDRA FANCLUB
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 23:17:38
February 06 2012 23:16 GMT
#34085
If the discussion about Idra's mental state doesn't belong here, I'm not sure where it belongs. A new thread would probably be closed. If it's been discussed before I don't know what to tell you. This thread is so massive that I do not think it is reasonable to tell people to "go back 50 pages where it was discussed last." Therefore I won't take action against people who talk about Idra's mental state in here, but I can't speak for other mods.

EDIT: my personal opinion is that banning all negative discussion about Idra would be a disaster. That's why my public note was so nuanced. However, as Falling said, the mods are discussing it.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 06 2012 23:20 GMT
#34086
On February 07 2012 08:07 Jinsho wrote:
Just make Whole mod of the fanclub subforum, problem solved. Us IdrA supporters can take care of the trolls on our own if you'd let us.

all he has to do is report people. i am sure they will give his reports special attention if they are in respect to this particular thread, and he doesnt over-report.
midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
February 06 2012 23:41 GMT
#34087
umm here's an idea:
how about we create a new thread that idra would actually read. this thread needs to be heavily moderated. this thread will be devoted to improving idra as a player. people will be allowed to post what they thought he did wrong and what could be improved after he plays a game and loses.
Of course, idra would have to give his consent about such a thread and actually interact with people from time to time. There's a good chance he'll say no but we have to try.
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
February 06 2012 23:43 GMT
#34088
No way idra wants to read what random players think he needs to do better.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 06 2012 23:44 GMT
#34089
On February 07 2012 08:41 songohan wrote:
umm here's an idea:
how about we create a new thread that idra would actually read. this thread needs to be heavily moderated. this thread will be devoted to improving idra as a player. people will be allowed to post what they thought he did wrong and what could be improved after he plays a game and loses.
Of course, idra would have to give his consent about such a thread and actually interact with people from time to time. There's a good chance he'll say no but we have to try.


That's just not practical. There are coaches for that. Fans are fans, most are ignorant to many things that progamers have to take into account, both in and out of the game. If you really want to help Idra, be his fan.
maru lover forever
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 06 2012 23:52 GMT
#34090
yaaaaa cuz liquid doesnt pay zenio and hero anything. they joined cuz theyre big liquid fans.
imbeciles


in response to allegations that EG is full of mercenaries
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
February 06 2012 23:54 GMT
#34091
On February 07 2012 08:52 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
yaaaaa cuz liquid doesnt pay zenio and hero anything. they joined cuz theyre big liquid fans.
imbeciles


in response to allegations that EG is full of mercenaries



Well, Geoff surely is..

he could kill a man
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 07 2012 00:04 GMT
#34092
On February 07 2012 08:52 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
yaaaaa cuz liquid doesnt pay zenio and hero anything. they joined cuz theyre big liquid fans.
imbeciles


in response to allegations that EG is full of mercenaries

should just link the post to make it easier.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309223&currentpage=24#480
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12904 Posts
February 07 2012 00:29 GMT
#34093
there are two issues that bother me a lot in this fanclub. first are those seemingly intelligent debates but contributes nothing to the fanclub. (eg. a few pages before, people began debating whether grubby is a top foreigner)
Then some were comparing idra vs stephano, based upon some tournaments results. But let's be very honest here, statistics aren't used like that, there are too many variables to put in than just say player 1 got gold in tournament a, player one is better.

the second issue is the seriously annoying player who judge idra. they are constantly repeating the same thing over and over again since a few hundred pages ago. They shut up whenever idra gets on a winning steak but then rise up again when idra lose a game or in a slump and claimed his style no longer works and needs "more variety in his play style".
a fanclub is supposed to show appreciation and support from the community, not critics (especially if they aren't nearly anywhere as good as him)
I mean what's next, are we going to see everyone giving score for idra's performance in a game?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 07 2012 00:35 GMT
#34094
On February 07 2012 07:58 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 07:35 Bagi wrote:
Since when does any topic here accomplish anything? Fans should be able to discuss all aspects of Idra as long as its not blatant trolling. Until a mod comes by and makes all discussion with negative connotations forbidden, none of you people have any say in the matter, so stop playing backseat mods and let people post about the topics they want to talk about.

The point is that theres a difference between a fan and a fanboy. Right now we have fanboys trying to dictate which topics are allowed and which aren't, and that's one sure way to make the fanclub completely irrelevant.


The arrogance with which you post is really astounding.

If you want to discuss Idra's mindset, something that has been discussed for the whole of the year, again, then feel free to do it somewhere else because it's already been brought up multiple times in the 1600 pages of this thread

How is it that I'm the arrogant side here? I'm not the one trying to tell other posters that they cannot talk about certain things just because I feel its been done or is irrelevant to the fanclub. Imposing your own made-up rules on others? That's arrogant to me.

But meh, let the mods decide what to do with it. I'll save myself some mental strain by avoiding this "fanclub" from now on.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 07 2012 00:42 GMT
#34095
informed discussion is pretty good, but you always get the random trolls who pop in from time to time and disparage rather than constructively criticize Idra's "mental state." i mean he's been told to get a eye of tiger forever but that doesnt mean every time he leaves because a terran cloak banshee rushed him and he has no detection on ladder, someone has to blurt out "IDRA NEEDS TO BE MORE TENACIOUS ZOMG"... i mean he has had some egregious blunders (MMA/Huk) but those are out of our hands and sure discussing mindset is ok, but its just bait for non-constructive bashing in a fanclub

like i come to this fanclub to read news about idra, or see his funny quotes, or what new interview he did, not see two pages of discussion every time he plays anything and loses, be it ladder, weekly tourney, GSL, or MLG ... certainly the latter would be points for discussion, but at least some limits should be applied (and i wish common sense would work well, but it doesnt)
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
KgKris
Profile Joined April 2011
United States164 Posts
February 07 2012 00:58 GMT
#34096
WE LOVE YOU GREG <3!
"The spider comes."
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 07 2012 01:01 GMT
#34097
On February 07 2012 09:58 KgKris wrote:
WE LOVE YOU GREG <3!

your signature begs to differ. you should be ashamed for playing that race. ;-)
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 07 2012 01:19 GMT
#34098
On February 07 2012 09:35 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 07:58 Denzil wrote:
On February 07 2012 07:35 Bagi wrote:
Since when does any topic here accomplish anything? Fans should be able to discuss all aspects of Idra as long as its not blatant trolling. Until a mod comes by and makes all discussion with negative connotations forbidden, none of you people have any say in the matter, so stop playing backseat mods and let people post about the topics they want to talk about.

The point is that theres a difference between a fan and a fanboy. Right now we have fanboys trying to dictate which topics are allowed and which aren't, and that's one sure way to make the fanclub completely irrelevant.


The arrogance with which you post is really astounding.

If you want to discuss Idra's mindset, something that has been discussed for the whole of the year, again, then feel free to do it somewhere else because it's already been brought up multiple times in the 1600 pages of this thread

How is it that I'm the arrogant side here? I'm not the one trying to tell other posters that they cannot talk about certain things just because I feel its been done or is irrelevant to the fanclub. Imposing your own made-up rules on others? That's arrogant to me.

But meh, let the mods decide what to do with it. I'll save myself some mental strain by avoiding this "fanclub" from now on.


Well, let's say arrogance means what was in the previously enforced mod notes on top of the thread. One should not diss Idra. Talking about his skills, BO's, macro, or whatnot is (and was) allowed. What wasn't allowed was dissing him and there are constantly people dissing him by calling him "shit" or something. Taking down the note will increase that and I'd prefer to have to tread carefully in this thread (which is still less carefully than in most of TL) than have tons of trolls running rampant in this thread. And this, btw, constitutes a non-fanboy reason to prefer to limit discussion of Idra.

The second command was mucking up the thread. This discussion is borderline off-topic in this thread and yet you decide to call everyone that disagrees with you a fanboy. That's one way to muck up a thread, as all those people you offended immediately respond which creates a ton of useless content. Calling people backseat-mods isn't helping either.

I think you'll find plenty of discussion about Idra's faults being allowed in this fan club if you read back (not just 50 pages, mind you) and that also takes away your rationale to voice your dissatisfaction. What exactly is wrong at the moment? Do you plan to write something that's so much more impolite than the criticism that is already tolerated in this club? A monument to swearwords, perhaps? I think you'll find that being polite, not calling people names and elaborating on your criticisms will allow you to post anything you want in this thread.


Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Browner709
Profile Joined February 2012
1 Post
February 07 2012 01:27 GMT
#34099
Can someone direct me to a page/thread which contains information regarding upcoming games/tounaments IdrA will be playing in? If such a page exists...
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 07 2012 01:35 GMT
#34100
On February 07 2012 10:27 Browner709 wrote:
Can someone direct me to a page/thread which contains information regarding upcoming games/tounaments IdrA will be playing in? If such a page exists...

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IdrA/Schedule
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