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MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
January 26 2012 00:48 GMT
#33401
On January 26 2012 08:47 Whole wrote:
i really like this idra quote:

Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 23:03 IdrA wrote:
On January 25 2012 22:39 -ForeverAlone- wrote:
On January 25 2012 22:28 IdrA wrote:
people seem to think foreign teams actively avoid picking up new players or something. if you're worth it teams are going to be scrambling to get you. very very few people invest enough effort to be good or to create a fanbase. those that have have joined teams or been hired by companies.
you dont join a team and then get good, you get good and then join a team.

That's the problem the OP wants to highlight. The infrastructure to get good in NA is not as good in Korea, and this creates a selection bias. There aren't too many 15+ year olds in NA that can just turn their life into full time gaming, unless they already have a lot of money or a very supportive family. The concept of B-teams here doesn't really exist.

I mean if we look at the top level pros on the scene today that support themselves only with SC2, a lot of them are there because they had the first mover advantage (HuK) or had the chance to develop before (you). This is made worse by the fact that a lot of tournaments are mostly invite-based.

how do you think i got that chance to develop? i ignored school and didnt have a social life for 2 years in order to win a tournament and move to korea at 18 to sit in a house and play starcraft1 with 0 return for another 3 years



A lot of people who just want to get involved in esports forget about the risk the people who are big now took. It happens a lot with people wanting to get into streaming/casters. People whine that the market is extremely saturated and it would have been easier to make it if you started a long time ago. But they often forget about the risk involved with starting back then, there is a reason only a handful of people (aka hipsters) have been doing it for a long time.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 09:00:00
January 26 2012 08:46 GMT
#33402
Yeah, that does disgust me a lot.

It's very obviously easier right now, with a lot of attention, money, and tournaments going on. People just whine because they're lazy and don't want to really sit down, and work on their game.

Saturated? As if. Just go on and prove that you're better and deserve that spot instead of sitting and dreaming about how if only you'd started a bit earlier, teams would be all over you. Cause there's nothing wrong with your skill, of course, it's just the circumstances, you know, not your fault at all. Lazy proto-narcissistic bums.

EDIT: To make this a bit more relevant to the thread, this is why I support players like WhiteRa, IdrA, iNcontroL, etc who have been at it for a long, long time under very hard circumstances rather than jump on the latest Korean superstar bandwagon.
kurrysauce
Profile Joined October 2010
272 Posts
January 26 2012 17:00 GMT
#33403
Looks like idra is having a bad day with protoss , he just tweeted

Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
January 26 2012 17:19 GMT
#33404
If there was anything that every single zerg at the group nominations said, it was that they didn't want to play against Protoss. Nestea is slumping badly vs Toss. Both he, Leenock, DRG have a 'go muta or die trying' mentality against Protoss. Either that, or they all in. Its not just Idra, no one has good ZvP atm.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
January 26 2012 17:19 GMT
#33405
[image loading]
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
January 26 2012 17:30 GMT
#33406
LOL nice race!
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
January 26 2012 17:34 GMT
#33407
On January 26 2012 09:48 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 08:47 Whole wrote:
i really like this idra quote:

On January 25 2012 23:03 IdrA wrote:
On January 25 2012 22:39 -ForeverAlone- wrote:
On January 25 2012 22:28 IdrA wrote:
people seem to think foreign teams actively avoid picking up new players or something. if you're worth it teams are going to be scrambling to get you. very very few people invest enough effort to be good or to create a fanbase. those that have have joined teams or been hired by companies.
you dont join a team and then get good, you get good and then join a team.

That's the problem the OP wants to highlight. The infrastructure to get good in NA is not as good in Korea, and this creates a selection bias. There aren't too many 15+ year olds in NA that can just turn their life into full time gaming, unless they already have a lot of money or a very supportive family. The concept of B-teams here doesn't really exist.

I mean if we look at the top level pros on the scene today that support themselves only with SC2, a lot of them are there because they had the first mover advantage (HuK) or had the chance to develop before (you). This is made worse by the fact that a lot of tournaments are mostly invite-based.

how do you think i got that chance to develop? i ignored school and didnt have a social life for 2 years in order to win a tournament and move to korea at 18 to sit in a house and play starcraft1 with 0 return for another 3 years



A lot of people who just want to get involved in esports forget about the risk the people who are big now took. It happens a lot with people wanting to get into streaming/casters. People whine that the market is extremely saturated and it would have been easier to make it if you started a long time ago. But they often forget about the risk involved with starting back then, there is a reason only a handful of people (aka hipsters) have been doing it for a long time.


He spends his life doing what he loves. His life is helluva lot easier than most. Few people have the guts to do that.

Anyway, I think he should relax, his temper and pride are so easily pricked.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 26 2012 17:40 GMT
#33408
rofl XD
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 27 2012 02:01 GMT
#33409
On January 27 2012 02:00 kurrysauce wrote:
Looks like idra is having a bad day with protoss , he just tweeted

https://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/162578246221824000


top comment with 580 likes is "fuck protoss"

Idra fanbase stronk
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
c0ldwinter
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States238 Posts
January 27 2012 02:34 GMT
#33410
Idra is playing today in the NASTL ;D
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
January 27 2012 02:51 GMT
#33411
GREGGORS VERSUS LEENOCK YAAAAAAAAAA. Rematch from MLG. Let's see them ZvZs.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
January 27 2012 02:53 GMT
#33412
Doh, no replay but IdrA lost
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
January 27 2012 02:53 GMT
#33413
WUT. No games? what is this. I demand restart clan war.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Shiawase
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom30 Posts
January 27 2012 02:54 GMT
#33414
only game i wanted to see T.T
"zerg must have detection because the queen is shooting [the mothership]" - mrbitter
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
January 27 2012 13:29 GMT
#33415
I would really like to see IdrA commentating some games right now... :-/
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Ache0wns
Profile Joined January 2012
14 Posts
January 27 2012 14:19 GMT
#33416
So.. What happened? D: No replay, wtf?

@Junichi: I'd love to see any form of Idra content... Like... Him playing with Hobbes...Greg vs Chris staring contest... Greg's reaction to 2 girls 1 cup.. Pretty much anything @_@

:3
"Until the very very top, in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard, even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." -IdrA
damod
Profile Joined March 2011
1106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 14:23:23
January 27 2012 14:22 GMT
#33417
On January 27 2012 23:19 Ache0wns wrote:
So.. What happened? D: No replay, wtf?

@Junichi: I'd love to see any form of Idra content... Like... Him playing with Hobbes...Greg vs Chris staring contest... Greg's reaction to 2 girls 1 cup.. Pretty much anything @_@

:3

Oh god the amount of epicness it will provide xD

the thing i would like to see is idrA playing Amnesia!
i cant even imagine idrA's reaction if he will play it lol, will he be scared ? or just go "this monster is just awful", "apologise for trying to scare me" xD
EGHuK | EGJaeDong | EGMachine | EGiNcontroL | EGDemusliM | EGStephano <3
Ache0wns
Profile Joined January 2012
14 Posts
January 27 2012 14:28 GMT
#33418
On January 27 2012 23:22 damod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 23:19 Ache0wns wrote:
So.. What happened? D: No replay, wtf?

@Junichi: I'd love to see any form of Idra content... Like... Him playing with Hobbes...Greg vs Chris staring contest... Greg's reaction to 2 girls 1 cup.. Pretty much anything @_@

:3

Oh god the amount of epicness it will provide xD

the thing i would like to see is idrA playing Amnesia!
i cant even imagine idrA's reaction if he will play it lol, will he be scared ? or just go "this monster is just awful", "apologise for trying to scare me" xD

I know, right! I can just imagine him; running around the corner like a boss *meets monster*, and then that little head shake in disgust like he did after winning IEM China against Elfi.
''What a fuckin' horrible monster. Who the fuck designed this shit''
Or he would get blocked by a box while running, and call it imbalanced or something :3
"Until the very very top, in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard, even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." -IdrA
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
January 27 2012 15:09 GMT
#33419
Oh my god, IdrA streaming Amnesia, that would be the funniest thing ever. Should we try to get the ball rolling on Reddit? :D
damod
Profile Joined March 2011
1106 Posts
January 27 2012 15:19 GMT
#33420
On January 28 2012 00:09 Stiluz wrote:
Oh my god, IdrA streaming Amnesia, that would be the funniest thing ever. Should we try to get the ball rolling on Reddit? :D

we will need to do something HUGE for idrA to agree on doing it.

i mean c'mon, we were pleased to give idrA 20k viewers on SOTG just for him commentating on his stream for a week xD
so for him to get the game and play for us with a camera and Mic, man i am afraid to hear what favour he will ask from us in return lol.
EGHuK | EGJaeDong | EGMachine | EGiNcontroL | EGDemusliM | EGStephano <3
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