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On December 31 2011 04:00 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 03:46 mijagi182 wrote:On December 31 2011 03:11 Forikorder wrote:idra has proven his ZvZ is better then most koreans already when? i mean it would be great but what is this opinion based on? NesTea has the best ZvZ IdrA stood toe to toe with NesTea erego IdrAs ZvZ is above average While this is probably so, we can also argue that Haypro beat nestea, and if we check TLPD, he has like a 34% winrate in ZvZ, so we should also consider the fact that it's a pretty volatile matchup
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On December 31 2011 04:00 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 03:46 mijagi182 wrote:On December 31 2011 03:11 Forikorder wrote:idra has proven his ZvZ is better then most koreans already when? i mean it would be great but what is this opinion based on? NesTea has the best ZvZ IdrA stood toe to toe with NesTea erego IdrAs ZvZ is above average
oh, ok
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On December 31 2011 04:00 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 03:46 mijagi182 wrote:On December 31 2011 03:11 Forikorder wrote:idra has proven his ZvZ is better then most koreans already when? i mean it would be great but what is this opinion based on? NesTea has the best ZvZ IdrA stood toe to toe with NesTea erego IdrAs ZvZ is above average I see.
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Toe-to-toe? Not really, he killed 30 drones and STILL lost. Doesn't really seem toe-to-toe to me....
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polt showed a replay of him v Idra.
He hasn't changed much
I presume ladder but still.
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On December 31 2011 04:11 wanghis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 04:00 Forikorder wrote:On December 31 2011 03:46 mijagi182 wrote:On December 31 2011 03:11 Forikorder wrote:idra has proven his ZvZ is better then most koreans already when? i mean it would be great but what is this opinion based on? NesTea has the best ZvZ IdrA stood toe to toe with NesTea erego IdrAs ZvZ is above average While this is probably so, we can also argue that Haypro beat nestea, and if we check TLPD, he has like a 34% winrate in ZvZ, so we should also consider the fact that it's a pretty volatile matchup well looking at how he beat nestea he didnt do anything that would be volatile, they both played straight up macro games so its not like idra won with random lucky baneling hits or by build order win
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On December 31 2011 04:51 Lebzetu wrote: Toe-to-toe? Not really, he killed 30 drones and STILL lost. Doesn't really seem toe-to-toe to me....
The fact that he killed 30 drones off of Nestea should more than qualify him as an above average ZvZ player.
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didn't he lose cause of some tactical and positional errors though?
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On December 31 2011 04:51 Lebzetu wrote: Toe-to-toe? Not really, he killed 30 drones and STILL lost. Doesn't really seem toe-to-toe to me....
You do realize when you are all inning and don't win there he evened the game out right? He had no advantage even when he killed a ton of drones. If he hadn't killed any drones he would have been rolled over like bread.
Personally I don't really see Idra making it through but I hope he somehow does would be awesome. I am just glad there will be a bo3 of him vs MVP though
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On December 31 2011 05:08 Whole wrote: didn't he lose cause of some tactical and positional errors though? Yeah, I remember one of those games, Antiga. He defended a huge push, but instead of securing the Gold, he pushed out, and his 3 infestors came out in front of his roach when he engaged Nestea. Nestea then fungled Idra's roaches, and split up into a much better concave. Idra's roaches got massacred :/
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Looks like IdrA is going to be getting some fierce ZvP going now that JYP is in EG! :D
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On December 31 2011 05:20 KvltMan wrote: Looks like IdrA is going to be getting some fierce ZvP going now that JYP is in EG! :D Confirmed?
Edit: JUST confirmed. Yay!
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On December 31 2011 05:25 VashTS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 05:20 KvltMan wrote: Looks like IdrA is going to be getting some fierce ZvP going now that JYP is in EG! :D Confirmed?
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I need some background info on JYP
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On December 31 2011 04:59 Denzil wrote:polt showed a replay of him v Idra. He hasn't changed much I presume ladder but still.
You were expecting him to?
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Fuck yeah! Still got the Z practice partner issue though :/
Edit: JYP joined one of the strongest foreigner SC2 teams, and Idra's fanclub is the one getting flooded with posts XDXD
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On December 31 2011 05:30 VashTS wrote:I need some background info on JYP He is labeled as Smart on liquipedia. Insane PvZ and great PvP. Abysmal PvT that should be fixed now that he is in the Slayers house.
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I think he has a decent chance of getting out. I hope slayers sets him up with a good Z to practice with.
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When I saw IdrA's group my mouth fell open. And then I grinned.
This is going to be awesome.
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