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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On August 27 2011 17:07 KvltMan wrote: So what happens now? Is he out of the tournmanent? no its group play, after group play he will play in the lowers champion chip bracket tomorrow later in the day, I have no idea what time  . If he loses that then he's out. | ||
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On August 27 2011 17:08 Teeky wrote: Six banes don't just connect, but the engagements could have been better. Like MrDudeMan said, had he made just 2 infestors in both games the series would have been decisively won by him. The control was otherwise pretty good imo. Just needs more macro and something that marines don't counter. This is pretty correct. Watching Idra v Boxer and Idra just generally against a lot of Terrans (Koreans it seems) Idra needs 6 banelings to connect. How many does Idra make? 6. If you watch for example against Boxer after holding off the blue flame perfectly he catches the marines coming in late. 2/ 3 baneling hits would of cleared that up how many does he make? 2 / 3. Idras not giving his opponent enough credit when it comes to either splitting marines or target firing the banes. I know he plays this cut line style of Zerg where 16 lings exactly will hold of this precise attack at this precise moment but the games been out for a year micros evolved people have got better. He can't be the 3 banes will defeat the push so i'm not going to spend any extra gas / minerals to make more Zerg he wants to be. I'd much rather he make 15 banes, waste 200 gas have only 3 banes connect defeat the push and have 12 banelings being useless than him dying to some stupid all in push because he's not giving marine splits and micro enough credit and then proceed to end up playing 200 gas behind. But Idra is Idra and a pro and he's been doing his own style for longer than I've been observing it so he'd obviously know a lot more about the situations than me but that's just my view on his ZvT lately. | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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Karalius
Lithuania271 Posts
On August 27 2011 14:37 Whole wrote: I just had an idea in the shower to help IdrA win again. Okay here is the plan. I'll get some type of deadly cancer. I'll make myself confined to a wheelchair and shit. Then next MLG Dallas, I'll meet up with IdrA in an elevator. Tell him that I'm Whole and that I have a life expectancy of 3 days...when MLG ends. Then when we part ways while walking out the elevator, I'll roll around and ask IdrA, "IdrA can you do me a favor?" "Sure man, what is it?" "Please win." *cough* Now if he doesn't win, I'll die unhappy and mentally scar IdrA for the rest of his life. If he does win,. I'll die smiling and make IdrA feel like a total badass...or maybe I'll even not die and make IdrA feel like god. edit: Oh, and if I mentally scar IdrA, he'll be determined to win future events in memory of me. So basically it is a win/win situation...but how do I get cancer first? truly yours, your biggest fan This is Stan On August 27 2011 17:18 KvltMan wrote: i can only hope that his inner gracken will be released. it would break my heart to see him lose in the lower bracket. It is not the "lower bracket" its the main championship bracket. People go into the main championship bracket from open brackets and pool play. The worse you do in pool play, the more games you have to win in the main championship bracket. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On August 27 2011 14:37 Whole wrote: I just had an idea in the shower to help IdrA win again. Okay here is the plan. I'll get some type of deadly cancer. I'll make myself confined to a wheelchair and shit. Then next MLG Dallas, I'll meet up with IdrA in an elevator. Tell him that I'm Whole and that I have a life expectancy of 3 days...when MLG ends. Then when we part ways while walking out the elevator, I'll roll around and ask IdrA, "IdrA can you do me a favor?" "Sure man, what is it?" "Please win." *cough* Now if he doesn't win, I'll die unhappy and mentally scar IdrA for the rest of his life. If he does win,. I'll die smiling and make IdrA feel like a total badass...or maybe I'll even not die and make IdrA feel like god. edit: Oh, and if I mentally scar IdrA, he'll be determined to win future events in memory of me. So basically it is a win/win situation...but how do I get cancer first? Dude, nobody thinks youre funny or endearing in any way. The least you can do is keep this shit to yourself. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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humbre
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Fatze
Germany1342 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
If he stopped at 20 mutas or so, got 4-5 infestors with a sizeable ling/bling force, Idra would have lolled at Sjow both games. No Terran can win against a Zerg that goes for a infestor/ling/muta/bling composition while sieging on creep with a small tank/marine force. With proper control, Zerg will almost always come out on top. | ||
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RoyalCheese
Czech Republic745 Posts
2 infestors would win him both of the games and it's not like he didn't have time to make them. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
 Thankfully, the Feel Good thread is here... | ||
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Leach
United States536 Posts
Let's hope that it is the other way round this time  | ||
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Poebes
Netherlands192 Posts
But IdrA fighting!! Come on man. Do what you need to do! | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
Extended Derpies means it will be hard for idra to fight back through now | ||
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darlhet
Italy548 Posts
On August 27 2011 21:50 Poebes wrote: Gogo Idra, everybody makes mistakes, inculding you. The problem with zerg is, you can be ahead the whole game, but when you make 1 bad engagement you can lose the game very easy. The other races have this a bit less. But IdrA fighting!! Come on man. Do what you need to do! its like if a protoss is way ahead and than goes for mono stalker vs infestors ling and he loses....he deserves to lose, same goes for Idra thinking that mono muta should counter mass rines | ||
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makesomenoiiise
United Kingdom78 Posts
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UBavarice
Sweden358 Posts
After reading through the posts in this thread, it seems that he was doing his standard: "I'm-better-than-everyone-else-and-terran-is-stupid-so-I'm-just-gonna-play-a-macrogame-like-I've-always-done-with-mass-mutas-and-if-I-lose-I-blame-it-on-terran-opness-attitude". I really hope he can get his shit together and start being overly safe rather than doing these on-the-edge-strategies like making JUST enough lings/blings to hold off timing pushes. He shoulder OVER-protect himself in the early/mid-game because he almost NEVER loses late-game. The only time I've seen him lose late-game I think is vs Zenio in the NASL and MC in the DH Sthlm invi. So IdrA: Please over-defend yourself, and then abuse your better mechanics in the late-game. IdrA Fightning Day 2&3!!!! | ||
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jambam
United States324 Posts
On August 27 2011 22:22 UBavarice wrote: I couldn't catch IdrA's matches against Sjow, but I was really disappointed when I saw the results this morning. After reading through the posts in this thread, it seems that he was doing his standard: "I'm-better-than-everyone-else-and-terran-is-stupid-so-I'm-just-gonna-play-a-macrogame-like-I've-always-done-with-mass-mutas-and-if-I-lose-I-blame-it-on-terran-opness-attitude". I really hope he can get his shit together and start being overly safe rather than doing these on-the-edge-strategies like making JUST enough lings/blings to hold off timing pushes. He shoulder OVER-protect himself in the early/mid-game because he almost NEVER loses late-game. The only time I've seen him lose late-game I think is vs Zenio in the NASL and MC in the DH Sthlm invi. So IdrA: Please over-defend yourself, and then abuse your better mechanics in the late-game. IdrA Fightning Day 2&3!!!! Just playing Devil's advocate here. Maybe he never loses in the late game because he plays such a corner cutting early game? | ||
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UBavarice
Sweden358 Posts
On August 27 2011 22:49 jambam wrote: Just playing Devil's advocate here. Maybe he never loses in the late game because he plays such a corner cutting early game? You... might have a good point right there! But against players like Sjow (who I think he's more than marginally better than), it's possible he could profit from what I suggested | ||
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