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rXs
Profile Joined April 2010
223 Posts
December 06 2010 05:18 GMT
#19301
On December 06 2010 10:02 UrASofty wrote:
Yes she is underrated. Compared to other popular idols she rarely gets a mention. When people discuss the top idol singers it's always taeyeon, park bom, 2am, etc.

She's been doing amazing covers, duets and releasing very good songs (minus marshmellow) since 2008 and has only been getting real recognition recently.


I don't know who you've been talking to or where you've been going but as I understand "underrated" means not getting attention in the news, shows, publicity and fans. IU has had lots of attention given to her, she's in a show, she's almost always talked about, and she has tons of fans-She's all over the place. Are you sure you don't just spend too much time reading fangirl comments and shit? Heck, even fangirls talk about IU.
"you play hard to get; I play hard to get rid of."
Waffles
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Romania605 Posts
December 06 2010 05:23 GMT
#19302




everything that gina choi come out with recently is pretty fucking good.
branespload
Profile Joined April 2010
United States49 Posts
December 06 2010 05:28 GMT
#19303
like her boobs

User was warned for this post
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Waffles
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Romania605 Posts
December 06 2010 05:28 GMT
#19304
On December 06 2010 14:28 branespload wrote:
like her boobs

you are too good.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
December 06 2010 05:31 GMT
#19305
On December 06 2010 14:18 rXs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 10:02 UrASofty wrote:
Yes she is underrated. Compared to other popular idols she rarely gets a mention. When people discuss the top idol singers it's always taeyeon, park bom, 2am, etc.

She's been doing amazing covers, duets and releasing very good songs (minus marshmellow) since 2008 and has only been getting real recognition recently.


I don't know who you've been talking to or where you've been going but as I understand "underrated" means not getting attention in the news, shows, publicity and fans. IU has had lots of attention given to her, she's in a show, she's almost always talked about, and she has tons of fans-She's all over the place. Are you sure you don't just spend too much time reading fangirl comments and shit? Heck, even fangirls talk about IU.

He just meant underrated in vocal talent. She was known for her covers from way back but she started getting really popular recently not because of her vocal talent but her looks.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 06 2010 05:35 GMT
#19306
Everyone's hopping on my bandwagon. I been fanboying over IU since 2009 with "You Know". #TrueFan
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 05:42:21
December 06 2010 05:42 GMT
#19307
On December 06 2010 14:23 Waffles wrote:

everything that gina choi come out with recently is pretty fucking good.


I had no idea she's Korean-Canadian: totally explains why her English isn't Engrish. Pretty good song.
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
December 06 2010 05:46 GMT
#19308
On December 06 2010 08:57 UrASofty wrote:
combo breakerrrrr. lol at the quadruple quote, was that really necessary?

shes really pretty and criminally underrated tbh.


More like overrated as !@#$. I can't believe someone like her is even considered an idol. Marshmellow was a shitty attempt to go mainstream, and suprisingly enough, it worked.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
December 06 2010 05:47 GMT
#19309
Wow she is pretty good. I will have to explore some more of her stuff.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 06 2010 05:48 GMT
#19310
On December 06 2010 14:46 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 08:57 UrASofty wrote:
combo breakerrrrr. lol at the quadruple quote, was that really necessary?

shes really pretty and criminally underrated tbh.


More like overrated as !@#$. I can't believe someone like her is even considered an idol. Marshmellow was a shitty attempt to go mainstream, and suprisingly enough, it worked.

Bad kpop history. Marshmallow didn't work. Nagging worked.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
December 06 2010 05:55 GMT
#19311
On December 06 2010 14:48 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 14:46 ace246 wrote:
On December 06 2010 08:57 UrASofty wrote:
combo breakerrrrr. lol at the quadruple quote, was that really necessary?

shes really pretty and criminally underrated tbh.


More like overrated as !@#$. I can't believe someone like her is even considered an idol. Marshmellow was a shitty attempt to go mainstream, and suprisingly enough, it worked.

Bad kpop history. Marshmallow didn't work. Nagging worked.


You mean marshmallow failed in the eyes of the korean netizens or foreigners?
Waffles
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Romania605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 06:02:58
December 06 2010 05:57 GMT
#19312
On December 06 2010 14:48 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 14:46 ace246 wrote:
On December 06 2010 08:57 UrASofty wrote:
combo breakerrrrr. lol at the quadruple quote, was that really necessary?

shes really pretty and criminally underrated tbh.


More like overrated as !@#$. I can't believe someone like her is even considered an idol. Marshmellow was a shitty attempt to go mainstream, and suprisingly enough, it worked.

Bad kpop history. Marshmallow didn't work. Nagging worked.

no one really cared about marshmallow, it was annoying. nagging was really good imo.



if youre gonna talk about "foreigners", then obv. she was fucking 16, everyone wanted a piece of jailbait.in korea, there was so many better jailbaits like ji yeon to splurg over.

not that anything foreigners think matters.
unbal3
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)131 Posts
December 06 2010 06:04 GMT
#19313
On December 06 2010 14:46 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 08:57 UrASofty wrote:
combo breakerrrrr. lol at the quadruple quote, was that really necessary?

shes really pretty and criminally underrated tbh.


More like overrated as !@#$. I can't believe someone like her is even considered an idol. Marshmellow was a shitty attempt to go mainstream, and suprisingly enough, it worked.


lol it's funny because that applies to pretty much all kpop with the rarest of exceptions.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
December 06 2010 06:04 GMT
#19314
all of IU's collabs are so good. she should just be a collab artist for the next year or so, kind of like what m-flo did with the "m-flo loves ____" series
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 06:44:58
December 06 2010 06:05 GMT
#19315
On December 06 2010 14:55 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 14:48 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 06 2010 14:46 ace246 wrote:
On December 06 2010 08:57 UrASofty wrote:
combo breakerrrrr. lol at the quadruple quote, was that really necessary?

shes really pretty and criminally underrated tbh.


More like overrated as !@#$. I can't believe someone like her is even considered an idol. Marshmellow was a shitty attempt to go mainstream, and suprisingly enough, it worked.

Bad kpop history. Marshmallow didn't work. Nagging worked.


You mean marshmallow failed in the eyes of the korean netizens or foreigners?

Marshmallow failed actually. She wasn't recognized at all with it. To be honest you could even say it worked with foreigners just because of how outrageous the song was. In the korean netizen's eyes it was just some annoying song. With what top said she started getting really popular with Nagging and appearing on the show Heroes.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 06:20:51
December 06 2010 06:18 GMT
#19316
Nagging was pretty good imo. But it seems more like a desperate attempt to leech fame off other well-known idols (in this case, seulong) so it didnt seem like it would be really successful. And also the song isn't mainstream. Hence, my original comment that i cant believe she is even considered an idol

But then again, songs like oh and hoot are topping K-charts so i guess its not that suprising.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 06:45:46
December 06 2010 06:25 GMT
#19317
I don't think she was leeching off of seulong. He would not have been chosen if that was the intention. Seulong is actually fairly unpopular. And what do you mean by the song wasn't mainstream? It won the netizen award. I think thats mainstream enough. She is considered an idol because an idol by definition (in korea) is any celebrity/entertainer who appeals to teenagers and young adults in early twenties. And most of her fans are in that catergory hence idol.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
silverfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States304 Posts
December 06 2010 06:27 GMT
#19318
On December 06 2010 14:47 TheEmulator wrote:
Wow she is pretty good. I will have to explore some more of her stuff.

Not intended to be an attack of any kind, btw, but this is exactly what's wrong with the kpop industry right now; looks shouldn't be what sells the music or even what introduces you to the music, but it is.
PhotographerChicken and waffles is the one true food of ESPORTS | Twitter: @silverfire
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 06 2010 06:30 GMT
#19319
On December 06 2010 15:27 silverfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 14:47 TheEmulator wrote:
Wow she is pretty good. I will have to explore some more of her stuff.

Not intended to be an attack of any kind, btw, but this is exactly what's wrong with the kpop industry right now; looks shouldn't be what sells the music or even what introduces you to the music, but it is.

But isn't that kind of the problem with all mainstream/popular/pop music nowadays? Even looking at the US charts, a lot of the people there suck worse at singing than Kpop idols do; at least kpop bands have 1 or 2 vocals who actually sound good. Taylor swift is inconsistent live at best, Rihanna sucks, etc. There are a few good artists in both industries but a lot of popular artists in both the U.S. and Korea aren't actually all that good.
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 06:34:02
December 06 2010 06:32 GMT
#19320
On December 06 2010 15:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
I don't think she was leeching off of seulong. He would not have been if that was the intention. Seulong is actually fairly unpopular. And what do you mean by the song wasn't mainstream? It won the netizen award. I think thats mainstream enough. She is considered an idol because an idol by definition is any celebrity/entertainer who appeals to teenagers and young adults in early twenties. And most of her fans are in that catergory hence idol.


(Idols are any celebrity that has alot of popularity . The extent of popularity for one to be considered an idol is a subjective matter, so long as its not unrealistic.) < this is what i have believed all this time and still think this is true. Where did you get "idol by definition is any celebrity/entertainer who appeals to teenagers and young adults in early twenties."?
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