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Ixas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
930 Posts
June 01 2010 11:53 GMT
#11661
On June 01 2010 20:09 Craton wrote:
Nobody but SNSD can beat the SUJU fangirls.

fangurls more fanatic than fanbois
Ixas.parkjiyeon.net
mirai
Profile Joined December 2009
United States214 Posts
June 01 2010 12:36 GMT
#11662
f(x) Victoria and Nickhun for new WGM couple.

Wow, Peeektoryah's everywhere.
HYOMIN SO GODLIKE!
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 13:18:12
June 01 2010 13:07 GMT
#11663
lololol taeyeon comes to muh country and sg sones goes crazy.



saw her irl today tho. funny cos i didnt yell when I saw her and was thinking like "OMG IS THIS FURREAL" for 10 mins and before i knew it shes gone

fml. apparently there were crazy fanboys+fangirls stalkin her..



not my fancam, BUT I WAS THERE WHEN SHE WAS LEAVING ASJHDAJSHJKFAS

김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Ixas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
930 Posts
June 01 2010 13:14 GMT
#11664
On June 01 2010 22:07 Katsuge wrote:
lololol taeyeon comes to muh country and sg sones goes crazy.



saw her irl today tho. funny cos i didnt yell when I saw her and was thinking like "OMG IS THIS FURREAL" and before i know it shes gone

fml.


lol where did u stalk her?
Ixas.parkjiyeon.net
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 13:17:29
June 01 2010 13:16 GMT
#11665
flyer.


i really should shoot myself cos i was there carrying a DSLR and i did nothing with it.
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
June 01 2010 13:55 GMT
#11666
On June 01 2010 22:16 Katsuge wrote:
flyer.


i really should shoot myself cos i was there carrying a DSLR and i did nothing with it.


... you really should. Twice.
Deucegladlier
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States98 Posts
June 01 2010 14:08 GMT
#11667
I know Roffles always talking about SM being slavedrivers, but SM pays their members enough to buy their parents a nice Mercedes and a big house. I know this because I know some member in some group in SM through blank, and that certain member made enough to let their parents retire. Maybe being a slave is worth it, if you can financially take care of yourself and your parents.
Babe Ruth is known as the homerun king, but he was also known as the strikeout king.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 14:14:24
June 01 2010 14:10 GMT
#11668
rofl very doubtful of this

VERY

edit: actually who's this "person" u speak of?
Forever Young
Ixas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
930 Posts
June 01 2010 14:30 GMT
#11669
On June 01 2010 23:08 Deucegladlier wrote:
I know Roffles always talking about SM being slavedrivers, but SM pays their members enough to buy their parents a nice Mercedes and a big house. I know this because I know some member in some group in SM through blank, and that certain member made enough to let their parents retire. Maybe being a slave is worth it, if you can financially take care of yourself and your parents.

How is SMEnt gonna find so much money to pay the members? Lets jus look at the more significant groups mainly SUJU and SNSD. Statistic show that they both have over 100k album sales. This may sound significant but if you work it down to album sold per member, it would be lower than other groups with lesser members as well as solo artiste. As such, large revenue cannot be reaped from album sales.
Lets factor in other sources of income. Namely CF appearance and official merchandise sales. Do SUJU and SNSD get 13/10 x and 9x more CF than solo artiste? I doubt it. You may then argue that they would be paid significantly more $/member but even so, it would never beat the amount a solo artiste is to make on a CF appearance. Official merchandise face huge competition from copy printing/production. Often you will find their merchandise on sale for much cheaper than the official product. Furthermore, official product faces additional shipping and handling cost. As such, even if official merchandise were to survive the competition and achieve a sizable sales figure, it will still be subjected to splitting among members and SM taking the lion's share.
Currently, SMEnt claims to be the most profitable label in Korea. This will be in direct conflict with your premise of members being paid large sums of money. Large number of members drawing a large salary each will no doubt eat into SMEnt profits. Hence, I believe, they are mere slaves living off a measly sum due to a contract they signed when they were desperate to be stars.
Ixas.parkjiyeon.net
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 15:42:26
June 01 2010 15:14 GMT
#11670
ask em money from fangurls.


woooops.
[image loading]


FUU kang ji hwan
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Deucegladlier
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 17:39:50
June 01 2010 17:32 GMT
#11671
On June 01 2010 23:30 Ixas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 23:08 Deucegladlier wrote:
I know Roffles always talking about SM being slavedrivers, but SM pays their members enough to buy their parents a nice Mercedes and a big house. I know this because I know some member in some group in SM through blank, and that certain member made enough to let their parents retire. Maybe being a slave is worth it, if you can financially take care of yourself and your parents.

How is SMEnt gonna find so much money to pay the members? Lets jus look at the more significant groups mainly SUJU and SNSD. Statistic show that they both have over 100k album sales. This may sound significant but if you work it down to album sold per member, it would be lower than other groups with lesser members as well as solo artiste. As such, large revenue cannot be reaped from album sales.
Lets factor in other sources of income. Namely CF appearance and official merchandise sales. Do SUJU and SNSD get 13/10 x and 9x more CF than solo artiste? I doubt it. You may then argue that they would be paid significantly more $/member but even so, it would never beat the amount a solo artiste is to make on a CF appearance. Official merchandise face huge competition from copy printing/production. Often you will find their merchandise on sale for much cheaper than the official product. Furthermore, official product faces additional shipping and handling cost. As such, even if official merchandise were to survive the competition and achieve a sizable sales figure, it will still be subjected to splitting among members and SM taking the lion's share.
Currently, SMEnt claims to be the most profitable label in Korea. This will be in direct conflict with your premise of members being paid large sums of money. Large number of members drawing a large salary each will no doubt eat into SMEnt profits. Hence, I believe, they are mere slaves living off a measly sum due to a contract they signed when they were desperate to be stars.


You make it sound like they got the money in like 2 years and were part of a 9+ member group.



Those "stars" that were desperate to be stars probably wouldn't have become "stars" if they didn't become part of a group. Even though they might be slaves, they chose to become slaves for SM. They had a way out, like Soyeon from T-ara did, but they chose to stay.

Also, I believe those slave stars can make more money after they are freed from their contracts or through individual projects.
Babe Ruth is known as the homerun king, but he was also known as the strikeout king.
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
June 01 2010 17:38 GMT
#11672
And once again you manage to avoid giving a name
FruitMarket
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 01 2010 17:53 GMT
#11673
need an advice on what i should listen to this week,
you guys have 1 days to come up with a list of 10 kpop songs or ima switch to billboard =.=
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 18:12:33
June 01 2010 18:07 GMT
#11674
Hmmm... these are some of the ones I never skip on my playlist.

1. 2pm - Again and Again
2. Big Bang - Haru Haru
3. Kara - Lupin
4. G-Dragon - Heartbreaker
5. DBSK - Mirotic
6. Kara - I'll Be There
7. 4minute - Huh
8. Cnblue - Love
9. 2am - Confessions of a Friend
10. Kim Taewoo - Love Rain

I'm interested in older stuff like FinKL too, so if you got some older songs to recommend, lay em on me.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 01 2010 18:15 GMT
#11675
hey duece how bout telling us who this "member" that u know is?
Forever Young
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
June 01 2010 18:18 GMT
#11676
Epik High - Love Love Love
SG Wannabe - 사랑하길 정말 잘했어요
2PM - 니가 밉다
2AM - 잘못했어
TAKE - 나비무덤
Brian - 친구의 여자를 사랑했네 (feat. 타블로 & 미쓰라 진)
After School - 너 때문에
MC몽 - Dalmation Love
티아라 - TTL
SS501 - Love Ya
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zoltanqc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 18:44:21
June 01 2010 18:43 GMT
#11677
Poll: Best SNSD concept

Genie (29)
 
42%

Gee (15)
 
22%

Into the new world (13)
 
19%

Run devil run (8)
 
12%

Kissing you (2)
 
3%

OH! (2)
 
3%

69 total votes

Your vote: Best SNSD concept

(Vote): Into the new world
(Vote): Kissing you
(Vote): Genie
(Vote): Gee
(Vote): OH!
(Vote): Run devil run



AND THEN, THE INTERNETS EXPLODED.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 01 2010 19:13 GMT
#11678
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 19:19:25
June 01 2010 19:17 GMT
#11679
On June 02 2010 04:13 boesthius wrote:
anyone who votes something different than itnw is retarded


well hes asking for best "concept" and not song. so this ones more debatable (and more of an eye candy question imo). it'd be a lil retarded if it was a best "song" poll and people voted anything but itnw ^^

edit: anyway i voted itnw. mv captures the lyrics/image rly well

i also dont think its out of question to vote genie/gee lol
Forever Young
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
June 01 2010 19:18 GMT
#11680
Genie was terrible, its either Gee or ITNW.

Though I vote INTW.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
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