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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 08:47:41
May 25 2010 08:47 GMT
#11201
roffles honey, you're going to start pissing blood one day

all that built up anger and hate
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
May 25 2010 08:52 GMT
#11202
damn roffles on a roll
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 08:56:23
May 25 2010 08:55 GMT
#11203
roffles :<

well thats why asian artists dont survive in america.
different standards :/
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 09:03:58
May 25 2010 09:00 GMT
#11204
On May 25 2010 17:55 Katsuge wrote:
roffles :<

well thats why asian artists dont survive in america.
different standards :/

What do you know about America? You live in Singapore...

Wanna know why Asian artists don't survive in America? It's because the style of music and shit that makes them popular in Asia doesn't carry over. Americans have different tastes than Asians. Plus, who wants to listen to Engrish? If Asian artists are to ever survive in America, they're gonna have to be completely fluent and accentless. But that ain't ever gonna happen unless they were raised in America.

The standards are the same. Asian artists just suck. The style of music doesn't really go along with mainstream American music, and to top it off, they can barely speak a lick of English. Why listen to someone who can't fucking speak English when you can listen to someone who's fluent. It's cringeworthy listening to nonfluent speakers.

Don't talk as if you know America.
God Bless
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
May 25 2010 09:18 GMT
#11205
I don't agree with Roffles' hate, but he's 100% true on why asian artists will never get big in america, that's including Wonder Girls. You have to know how to speak fluent english, and with no asian accent, otherwise you won't get anywhere
You can't fight the feeling.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 09:30:07
May 25 2010 09:25 GMT
#11206
On May 25 2010 18:00 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 17:55 Katsuge wrote:
roffles :<

well thats why asian artists dont survive in america.
different standards :/

What do you know about America? You live in Singapore...

Wanna know why Asian artists don't survive in America? It's because the style of music and shit that makes them popular in Asia doesn't carry over. Americans have different tastes than Asians. Plus, who wants to listen to Engrish? If Asian artists are to ever survive in America, they're gonna have to be completely fluent and accentless. But that ain't ever gonna happen unless they were raised in America.

The standards are the same. Asian artists just suck. The style of music doesn't really go along with mainstream American music, and to top it off, they can barely speak a lick of English. Why listen to someone who can't fucking speak English when you can listen to someone who's fluent. It's cringeworthy listening to nonfluent speakers.

Don't talk as if you know America.

this pretty much sums up to 'different standards'

and by different standards, I MEAN the difference in how asians like their music and how american music. precisely the reason why asian artists do not survive in america. ~_~
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Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
May 25 2010 09:26 GMT
#11207
I think it has more to do with the preference and language rather than standards. "Different standards" implies a skill gap imo
FruitMarket
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 09:54:58
May 25 2010 09:29 GMT
#11208
Americans: "Why do you like that? You don't even understand what they are saying."
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 09:54:06
May 25 2010 09:50 GMT
#11209
Well, ask the typical American teen, "Justin(e) Bieber or *insert random K-Pop guy here*, who would you rather listen to?"

Honestly, who has more talent, regardless of accent? Ugh. Both have blatantly crass commercialization. Western cultures' inability for its celebrities to be the object of their own humor/fun is one of the major barriers to having Asian stars break through. Ever seen your favorite non-comedian celebrity become a dork in a commercial?
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 10:03:19
May 25 2010 09:56 GMT
#11210
On May 25 2010 18:25 Katsuge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 18:00 Roffles wrote:
On May 25 2010 17:55 Katsuge wrote:
roffles :<

well thats why asian artists dont survive in america.
different standards :/

What do you know about America? You live in Singapore...

Wanna know why Asian artists don't survive in America? It's because the style of music and shit that makes them popular in Asia doesn't carry over. Americans have different tastes than Asians. Plus, who wants to listen to Engrish? If Asian artists are to ever survive in America, they're gonna have to be completely fluent and accentless. But that ain't ever gonna happen unless they were raised in America.

The standards are the same. Asian artists just suck. The style of music doesn't really go along with mainstream American music, and to top it off, they can barely speak a lick of English. Why listen to someone who can't fucking speak English when you can listen to someone who's fluent. It's cringeworthy listening to nonfluent speakers.

Don't talk as if you know America.

this pretty much sums up to 'different standards'

and by different standards, I MEAN the difference in how asians like their music and how american music. precisely the reason why asian artists do not survive in america. ~_~

No. Different standards = Artists held to different standards.
Different preferences = People like different things.

On May 25 2010 18:50 Ciryandor wrote:
Well, ask the typical American teen, "Justin(e) Bieber or *insert random K-Pop guy here*, who would you rather listen to?"

Honestly, who has more talent, regardless of accent? Ugh. Both have blatantly crass commercialization. Western cultures' inability for its celebrities to be the object of their own humor/fun is one of the major barriers to having Asian stars break through. Ever seen your favorite non-comedian celebrity become a dork in a commercial?

No, I'm pretty sure Americans are more open minded to Asian cultures these days. But when it comes to music, in the American market, it's all about marketability. Engrish does NOT market well. To be honest, I think Korean/Japanese artists are no worse, no less talented than some popular American pop artists such as Justin Bieber. But in an American market, I'd rather listen to Justin Bieber sing in fluent English over cringing Engrish.
God Bless
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51500 Posts
May 25 2010 10:02 GMT
#11211
i have to admit, besides the terrible english, the new wonder girls song gets stuck on to you after a while =d
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mirai
Profile Joined December 2009
United States214 Posts
May 25 2010 10:11 GMT
#11212
On May 25 2010 18:56 Roffles wrote:
But when it comes to music, in the American market, it's all about marketability. Engrish does NOT market well.


True.
Even their looks wouldn't market that well.
I mean, who would want petite, prepubescent looking girls with no boobs and ass?

+ Show Spoiler +

PEDOBEAR, that's who.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51500 Posts
May 25 2010 10:35 GMT
#11213
Commentator
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
May 25 2010 11:08 GMT
#11214
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2010 18:56 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 18:25 Katsuge wrote:
On May 25 2010 18:00 Roffles wrote:
On May 25 2010 17:55 Katsuge wrote:
roffles :<

well thats why asian artists dont survive in america.
different standards :/

What do you know about America? You live in Singapore...

Wanna know why Asian artists don't survive in America? It's because the style of music and shit that makes them popular in Asia doesn't carry over. Americans have different tastes than Asians. Plus, who wants to listen to Engrish? If Asian artists are to ever survive in America, they're gonna have to be completely fluent and accentless. But that ain't ever gonna happen unless they were raised in America.

The standards are the same. Asian artists just suck. The style of music doesn't really go along with mainstream American music, and to top it off, they can barely speak a lick of English. Why listen to someone who can't fucking speak English when you can listen to someone who's fluent. It's cringeworthy listening to nonfluent speakers.

Don't talk as if you know America.

this pretty much sums up to 'different standards'

and by different standards, I MEAN the difference in how asians like their music and how american music. precisely the reason why asian artists do not survive in america. ~_~

No. Different standards = Artists held to different standards.
Different preferences = People like different things.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 18:50 Ciryandor wrote:
Well, ask the typical American teen, "Justin(e) Bieber or *insert random K-Pop guy here*, who would you rather listen to?"

Honestly, who has more talent, regardless of accent? Ugh. Both have blatantly crass commercialization. Western cultures' inability for its celebrities to be the object of their own humor/fun is one of the major barriers to having Asian stars break through. Ever seen your favorite non-comedian celebrity become a dork in a commercial?

No, I'm pretty sure Americans are more open minded to Asian cultures these days. But when it comes to music, in the American market, it's all about marketability. Engrish does NOT market well. To be honest, I think Korean/Japanese artists are no worse, no less talented than some popular American pop artists such as Justin Bieber. But in an American market, I'd rather listen to Justin Bieber sing in fluent English over cringing Engrish.


pardon my phrasing of words. i actually meant what you meant.
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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 11:27:05
May 25 2010 11:15 GMT
#11215
On May 25 2010 19:35 GTR wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1joBZLO-lA

luna should be in the middle imo. so underrated

pedo songs!

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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17271 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 11:57:35
May 25 2010 11:40 GMT
#11216
On May 25 2010 20:15 Katsuge wrote:
luna should be in the middle imo. so underrated


There's one for each of them, mang.




Is it me or is the video audio sync in that video sooo bad

Yeah it's way off.
twitch.tv/cratonz
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51500 Posts
May 25 2010 11:44 GMT
#11217
I might as well post the others (Sullay still the best though)
Also does anyone know the song they use?




Commentator
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 12:48:49
May 25 2010 12:47 GMT
#11218
On May 25 2010 17:36 Katsuge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 16:32 lokiM wrote:
OLOL wow, who is voting for boram?

dont be hating on boram


im just curious wht u like in boram to be a fan of.....

edit: lol looks like gtr dont need no pjy no more
Forever Young
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
May 25 2010 12:54 GMT
#11219
On May 25 2010 21:47 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 17:36 Katsuge wrote:
On May 25 2010 16:32 lokiM wrote:
OLOL wow, who is voting for boram?

dont be hating on boram


im just curious wht u like in boram to be a fan of.....

edit: lol looks like gtr dont need no pjy no more

simple. anyone > CL ima fan.
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Ixas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
930 Posts
May 25 2010 13:03 GMT
#11220
u had the choice of the other 5 in t-ara and u chose boram?
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