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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
December 21 2014 00:44 GMT
#106541
#9 should be 200% not 100% :D

wow i realized Mr. Mr. was 2014, I kept thinking it was 2013
AKMU / IU
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 21 2014 10:21 GMT
#106542
What surprised me about the list is that KARA is still going so strong. With 1 release and member changes but still powering hard.

Also f(x) who had 1 release and 1 week(? or so thanks Sulli...) of promotions managed to outsell 2NE1.

It's noticeable also that Hyosung herself outsold the Secret album...
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
December 21 2014 11:42 GMT
#106543
Orange Caramel plz never change! :D
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 21 2014 12:43 GMT
#106544
those legs look like from a zombie movie thou
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 21 2014 12:54 GMT
#106545
On December 21 2014 19:21 DwD wrote:
What surprised me about the list is that KARA is still going so strong. With 1 release and member changes but still powering hard.

Also f(x) who had 1 release and 1 week(? or so thanks Sulli...) of promotions managed to outsell 2NE1.

It's noticeable also that Hyosung herself outsold the Secret album...

Kara still fell off pretty hard, #10 woulda been terrible for them a couple years ago.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 21 2014 14:25 GMT
#106546
On December 21 2014 21:54 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 19:21 DwD wrote:
What surprised me about the list is that KARA is still going so strong. With 1 release and member changes but still powering hard.

Also f(x) who had 1 release and 1 week(? or so thanks Sulli...) of promotions managed to outsell 2NE1.

It's noticeable also that Hyosung herself outsold the Secret album...

Kara still fell off pretty hard, #10 woulda been terrible for them a couple years ago.


Meh #10 might sound bad but if you actually look at the list it doesn't look bad to me. They are basically beat by SM, YG and IU. There is no shame in that.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
giesecke
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany361 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 21:42:29
December 21 2014 16:38 GMT
#106547
how important are physical sales compared to digital ones?


edit; thanks nana
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 19:12:40
December 21 2014 19:04 GMT
#106548
On December 22 2014 01:38 giesecke wrote:
how important are physical sales compared to digital ones?

Short answer, they're not at all.
+ Show Spoiler [Long answer] +

There's a reason why companies constantly release digital singles, unless they've got cash to throw around or in case of Mamamoo there's a sufficient amount of demand that a hard copy be issued for sale.
Downloading and/or streaming (buying a 500 generic of minutes for two bucks to be used to listen to anything the music site has on catalog) makes up pretty much most of a music show score. This is due, for the streaming part, the volatility of the commodity and ease of finding out that which people are unable to stop listening for the score, a streamer is pretty much constantly buying whatever song they keep playing.

Individual show breakdown:
Mnet: I don't know, I doubt anyone can make heads or tale of their clusterfuck of pie charts and rankings they put on air.
KBS: 65% digital, 5% physical, 20% performances, 10% live phone in votes.
MBC: 65% digital and physical (Really digital is all that matters, which is going to to get more hits for the song on the chart, a guy buying one or two albums or a guy that is logged to listening to one song for an hour + half?), 10% for music video purchase/views, 10% for the 100 or so people that won the lottery for a chance to vote for three songs they like in the top 50, 15% live phone votes
SBS: They use Melon so of course 60% of the score is digital, since they're using Melon's and Loen has control over it of course they're going to use youtube views 35% to SNS (divided into twitter hashtagging somehow, but really it's probably mostly the view count on Loen's youtube), 5% for Melon users' votes.

If that was a question of how important it is to getting the artists money.
Pretty sure contracts require a large amount of discs moved before artists start to see a percentage from the physicals.
Digital, assuming it's the download (streaming screws everyone but the distributor, trophy makes up for it...sort of?) for a 1000 won song download: 500 goes to the distributing site, 200 goes to the managing/recording label, 150 goes to the Korean artist union thing, 100 goes to...I no longer remember, and the artists get the remaining 50 won.
This breakdown is about two years old though, but I doubt it changed much given the importance/cheapness + variety that comes with streaming
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
December 21 2014 23:38 GMT
#106549
Those A-Pink sales though. Is LUV really less popular than Mr Chu? Because I liked Mr Chu more but LUV is still winning shows.
rawb
Profile Joined September 2010
United States252 Posts
December 22 2014 00:02 GMT
#106550
It just came out later in the year - I ordered physical copies of both at the same time to save on shipping.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
December 22 2014 00:18 GMT
#106551
good good. Gaeyo Daejun last night

AKMU / IU
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
December 22 2014 05:09 GMT
#106552
On December 22 2014 08:38 Wesso wrote:
Those A-Pink sales though. Is LUV really less popular than Mr Chu? Because I liked Mr Chu more but LUV is still winning shows.

Well, unfortunately the ferry incident happened when they were promoting Mr. Chu, so who knows if they would have been as successful as Luv.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 06:39:58
December 22 2014 06:38 GMT
#106553
Well this is some bullshit http://m.news.naver.com/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=106&oid=382&aid=0000298177

Jooyeon T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T



Edit: Maybe all hope isn't lost http://www.soompi.com/2014/12/21/after-schools-jooyeon-still-in-talks-to-renew-contract-with-pledis-graduation-not-yet-confirmed/
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 22 2014 10:29 GMT
#106554
would be sad, jooyeon is good ~~
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
December 22 2014 11:07 GMT
#106555
On December 22 2014 14:09 ASie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 08:38 Wesso wrote:
Those A-Pink sales though. Is LUV really less popular than Mr Chu? Because I liked Mr Chu more but LUV is still winning shows.

Well, unfortunately the ferry incident happened when they were promoting Mr. Chu, so who knows if they would have been as successful as Luv.

"Mr Chu" came out at a moment when the Apink thirst was at its highest in Korea. Its success when compared to "LUV" is probably purely strategical because there is no doubt that "LUV" is the better album overall, even if "Mr Chu" probably has the better title track in terms of general appeal.

When "LUV" came out even I, as the biggest Apink fan there is outside of Korea, wasn't as thirsty as I was for Mr Chu. Mr Chu is the glorious comeback after the ascension to popularity that was "No no no", everyone was eagerly waiting for the album.
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
December 22 2014 12:55 GMT
#106556
On December 22 2014 20:07 Maluk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 14:09 ASie wrote:
On December 22 2014 08:38 Wesso wrote:
Those A-Pink sales though. Is LUV really less popular than Mr Chu? Because I liked Mr Chu more but LUV is still winning shows.

Well, unfortunately the ferry incident happened when they were promoting Mr. Chu, so who knows if they would have been as successful as Luv.

"Mr Chu" came out at a moment when the Apink thirst was at its highest in Korea. Its success when compared to "LUV" is probably purely strategical because there is no doubt that "LUV" is the better album overall, even if "Mr Chu" probably has the better title track in terms of general appeal.

When "LUV" came out even I, as the biggest Apink fan there is outside of Korea, wasn't as thirsty as I was for Mr Chu. Mr Chu is the glorious comeback after the ascension to popularity that was "No no no", everyone was eagerly waiting for the album.

Eh, to each their own. I personally liked Pink Blossom more than Pink LUV.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 22 2014 16:32 GMT
#106557
Dal Shabet + Minx 11/10
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
December 22 2014 16:46 GMT
#106558
--- Nuked ---
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
December 22 2014 16:57 GMT
#106559

>more singing from Clara
>Gwiyomi song part 2
>special appearance by Stan Lee
That's it, game over, I quit life.
BTOB's Ilhoon has irrevocable damaged this reality beyond repair.He could spend his next thousand reincarnations curing diseases, fighting super science criminals, and breaking competitive eating records and still not balance out this iteration's crime.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
December 22 2014 17:11 GMT
#106560
I think Clara just passed Strawberry Milk on a dignity scale, closing in on Masta WU.
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