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PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
October 12 2014 18:34 GMT
#105601
http://www.soompi.com/2014/10/12/lee-byung-huns-blackmailers-receive-trial-date-revealed-that-dahee-had-debts-with-her-agency/


300K in debt.... No wonder we never got a GLAM comeback....
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
October 12 2014 18:38 GMT
#105602
How did that debt accumulate? is it like a debt that is incurred by being a trainee or something?
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
October 12 2014 18:48 GMT
#105603
I'm just guessing, but she (or her parents) probably didn't have money enough to make her a trainee, so she might have taken a loan from the company (and they probably said that she could pay back when she get famous).

300K is a BIG amout of money, dunno what she got for them though.
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
October 12 2014 18:59 GMT
#105604
Damn, always figured she'd have a nice bit of cushion from her work on SeeU.
But looks like there's still only two artists that use her vocaloid.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
October 12 2014 19:01 GMT
#105605
How the hell does a nogu have a 300K debt with her company...

Trainee cost should come out of profits which is why everyone and their mothers always say that to launch an idolgroup you need to spend big bucks before you see a return and it will take years to make it back. That's why they always have such shitty contracts when they are just starting out because the company wants their money back.

Something is off here...

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Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-12 19:41:06
October 12 2014 19:15 GMT
#105606
On October 13 2014 04:01 DwD wrote:
How the hell does a nogu have a 300K debt with her company...

Trainee cost should come out of profits which is why everyone and their mothers always say that to launch an idolgroup you need to spend big bucks before you see a return and it will take years to make it back. That's why they always have such shitty contracts when they are just starting out because the company wants their money back.

Something is off here...



Exactly what I was thinking, 300k and they debuted in 2012, pre-debut the costs should be low. Maybe it's just the number that the company has invested in her (which I assume is normally the risk of the company not hers), but in that case why would she be so desperate as to try and blackmail someone?
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
October 12 2014 20:26 GMT
#105607
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
October 12 2014 20:39 GMT
#105608
On October 13 2014 05:26 Nesserev wrote:
It's also possible that her debt is not caused by her being an artist at the company, but that she took a personal loan at the company, and is now drowning...


Yep I'm thinking that has to be the reason for the debt.
She took a loan to be able to live with day to day expenses. I've never heard of such a shitty contract before that would put you in such heavy debt for things the company should pay for. I also wonder how legit such a contract would be and if it would be upheld in court if she would've protested it. Can you really write such a contract when the future is so uncertain?
Hell not even Nine Muses had such shitty terms lol.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
October 12 2014 21:34 GMT
#105609
On October 13 2014 05:39 DwD wrote:
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On October 13 2014 05:26 Nesserev wrote:
It's also possible that her debt is not caused by her being an artist at the company, but that she took a personal loan at the company, and is now drowning...


Yep I'm thinking that has to be the reason for the debt.
She took a loan to be able to live with day to day expenses. I've never heard of such a shitty contract before that would put you in such heavy debt for things the company should pay for. I also wonder how legit such a contract would be and if it would be upheld in court if she would've protested it. Can you really write such a contract when the future is so uncertain?
Hell not even Nine Muses had such shitty terms lol.

In American law no, but SK tends to let them get away with a lot of shit.
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
October 13 2014 00:05 GMT
#105610
lol 300m won wtf.. where did she spend it tho/
AKMU / IU
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
October 13 2014 00:16 GMT
#105611
On October 13 2014 09:05 shin_toss wrote:
lol 300m won wtf.. where did she spend it tho/

That's what I'm wondering.

I don't know how the music industry works, but what I thought happened was that a company scouted for people for a group (or just a solo singer) that they think they could invest in. The costs of the investment would just be partially taken from the profits the soloist/group makes afterwards. I can't really imagine people paying to become music trainees, but maybe I'm wrong...but if what I said is true how does one spend $300,000 in two years on day-to-day expenses?
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 01:00:11
October 13 2014 00:58 GMT
#105612
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nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
October 13 2014 03:53 GMT
#105613
MBLAQ lost one of its most notable members.
Madtown's song is fkbad.

Two X 2015 comeback GET!
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
October 13 2014 05:48 GMT
#105614
too bad about mqlaq, joon did a lot for them. his acting is pretty good for an idol.
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 08:10:15
October 13 2014 08:09 GMT
#105615
editL wrong thread
AKMU / IU
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 09:01:46
October 13 2014 08:29 GMT
#105616
+ Show Spoiler [Fan Cafe Rankings] +
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I think it's safe to say that A Pink (#3) and Girl's Day (#6) are rising to the top of girl groups with their huge recent growth. The other ones listed in the top 5 are SNSD (#1), IU (#2; not even a girl group), Wonder Girls (#4), and 2NE1 (#5).

On October 13 2014 17:45 Disregard wrote:
IU is a girl group amongst herself.

Fair enough.
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
October 13 2014 08:41 GMT
#105617
Even if my korean is so-so, reading group names makes me feel like a master of language! :D
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 13 2014 08:45 GMT
#105618
IU is a girl group amongst herself.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
October 13 2014 08:48 GMT
#105619
On October 13 2014 17:45 Disregard wrote:
IU is a girl group amongst herself.


Ailee is in there as well.
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
October 13 2014 08:53 GMT
#105620
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