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andyrau
13015 Posts
On October 01 2014 21:04 SwARmZzz wrote: Don't know why IU would associate herself with that pedo.... But the track does sound good from the teaser... you might want to reevaluate what pedo means | ||
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j0hn_pudg3
United States3 Posts
On October 01 2014 18:44 DwD wrote: Honestly I don't have a hard time believing everything Jessica wrote... I think some of the members probably got jealous and had a change of heart about her other activities. Claiming that Jessica isn't focusing 100% of her efforts to the group is of course going to be correct but is any member committing 100%? Lots of them do dramas, radio, CF's, whatever. I have no doubt in my mind that if SM wanted her out but the other 8 wanted her to stay then SM would have had to buckle. They absolutely do not want to risk a massive revolt with their cash cow. "Dramas, radio, CF's" are all things they do as SNSD members, and they help promote the SNSD brand. That's why when, say, actress Sooyoung does an interview, she can introduce herself as SNSD's Sooyoung. Monetarily, SM/SNSD gets a cut of their earnings too. Jessica's business had no affiliation with SNSD, yet its success was due only to her standing as an SNSD member. No one would buy those $250 sunglasses otherwise. Now, this might not have been an issue if it didn't affect her commitment to the group. But obviously her business took up too much of her time/energy, and she wasn't able to give 100% to SNSD and SNSD-affiliated activities. And it would only get worse as it expanded and she added branched out into other things. Moreover, her side projects created conflicts with potential business opportunities. Think of a company like J.estina which they worked with before. If they wanted to contract the 9 members to model their product, but Jessica also sells competing products for her own brand, you can see how this would be an issue. Also, if she were to get engaged, that makes her, and therefore the group, less valuable. So they gave her an ultimatum: Either put the group first or yourself first. It sounds like she wouldn't explicitly choose and instead went to NY with her boyfriend, returning a day before their first China fanmeeting hoping that they would just let her just keep doing what she was doing. But the members couldn't let it go on like this, especially with all the big plans they have for the group in the near future, so they had to drop her. In her statement, Jessica clearly does not blame SM, so we shouldn't either. She says they were supportive and that it was the member's decision. | ||
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kidleaderr
365 Posts
this isn't middle school young padawan. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Always thought SNSD could stand to lose a few members, but Jessica surely wasn't one I wanted/expected to go. Eventually, I'm sure this situation will end up more clear. | ||
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Sh1bby
Germany711 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Younha Teaser 2] + + Show Spoiler [ Nam Young Joo Debut] + + Show Spoiler [ IU & Seo Taiji] + Can't wait for Younha - gonna be good. | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On October 02 2014 01:28 kidleaderr wrote: laugh out loud at the thought of other members being jealous and kicking her out. this isn't middle school young padawan. Because after middle school people stop getting jealous and acting like dicks? | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
With that said, I think people are kidding themselves if they think that the other 8 members could really have much leverage against SM if SM applied some real pressure to them. SM essentially removed JYJ from kpop despite them being arguably the most successful and talented boy group ever assembled, and after SM had already devoted so much time and resources to developing them. All SM would have to do to convince the other 8 members to step in line would be to point to the JYJ situation that is still ongoing. They're all under contract and would almost certainly be blacklisted in the kpop industry in Korea, which would be a deathknell for most, if not all, of their careers or at least the level of success they've become used to. As much as super successful celebrities may sometimes struggle against the pressures and burdens of being so famous, they also become accustomed and attached to that lifestyle whether they realize it or not. Without the support of SM, or any other major label who wouldn't want to get on SM's bad side (i.e. likely all of them), they'd likely have to kiss their careers as idols, singers, actresses, tv personalities, etc. goodbye. Most of the members would be completely screwed due to not being talented or popular enough to stand on their own, which could conceivably put more pressure on the other members to keep the group together at all costs (i.e. Yoona and Taeyeon not wanting Hyoyeon and Yuri to be compromised despite likely being able to support solo careers). TTS would certainly want to stay together at all costs since they're becoming a legitimate group on their own after much time and effort. In the end, there would be an overwhelming amount of pressure and incentive to keep the group together, even if it meant turning their backs on just one member who probably isn't as devoted to the group anymore and they may see as able to do just fine on her own. I'm not saying that any of this is what actually happened, but I believe it's very likely and certainly very possible. SM has enormous clout in the Korean entertainment industry and they've already shown they're willing and able to battle and win against even their most successful artists. SNSD would have virtually no leverage as they need SM a lot more than vice-versa, and too many of the members are fully invested and reliant upon their SNSD identity and connection to SM. It's not hard to imagine that if the other 8 members were faced with losing their careers or sticking up for Jessica that they'd very likely choose the former, particularly since Jessica seems fine with her outside ventures and relationship. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
On October 02 2014 01:26 j0hn_pudg3 wrote: "Dramas, radio, CF's" are all things they do as SNSD members, and they help promote the SNSD brand. That's why when, say, actress Sooyoung does an interview, she can introduce herself as SNSD's Sooyoung. Monetarily, SM/SNSD gets a cut of their earnings too. Now, this might not have been an issue if it didn't affect her commitment to the group. But obviously her business took up too much of her time/energy, and she wasn't able to give 100% to SNSD and SNSD-affiliated activities. And it would only get worse as it expanded and she added branched out into other things. But the members couldn't let it go on like this, especially with all the big plans they have for the group in the near future, so they had to drop her. . And which of her commitments did she miss while doing other stuff? None? -_____- And saying it would get worse is just pure speculation. You have no idea and neither do I. What big plans? She hasn't missed anything for years and years why should she randomly start missing things now? SNSD was #1 to her and her business #2 at least until she decided to leave. On October 02 2014 01:28 kidleaderr wrote: laugh out loud at the thought of other members being jealous and kicking her out. this isn't middle school young padawan. You apparently don't know how humans work lol. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 02 2014 05:01 DwD wrote: And which of her commitments did she miss while doing other stuff? None? -_____- And saying it would get worse is just pure speculation. You have no idea and neither do I. What big plans? She hasn't missed anything for years and years why should she randomly start missing things now? SNSD was #1 to her and her business #2 at least until she decided to leave. You can't really know any of that though. Agreed Cyric, especially because from what i know JYK probably have/had even more legal standing than SNSD would for leaving. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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TheEmulator
28093 Posts
On October 01 2014 18:27 AsnSensation wrote: Would be an interesting twist if he was indeed a huge fraud and leaves her if the business fails, leaving her with nothing. But now that she's already out of snsd i hope the dude is legit and they are happy together and succeed. I'm just glad her "alternative" career is not singer or actress. Imagine if taeyeon pulled this stunt and wants to go for a solo singing career, sm would blacklist jyj style all over. AILEE US DEBUT HYPE Ailee is debuting in the US? When is this? | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
NEW IU TRACK. MV release a few hours later | ||
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rave[wcr]
United States1166 Posts
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nanashin
United States1584 Posts
On October 02 2014 07:51 shin_toss wrote: kinda disappointed on Nam Young Joo's debut :/ the song and the MV quality is pretty amateurish Definitely wasn't as strong as her RAM: releases. | ||
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DjSweetBazz
Sweden172 Posts
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Sh1bby
Germany711 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
Gotta pay though... They took their sweet time in releasing that lol | ||
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Craton
United States17266 Posts
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nanashin
United States1584 Posts
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Craton
United States17266 Posts
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