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Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 31 2012 19:42 GMT
#88941
Here's the entire archive of the MBC Gayo Daejun btw (starts at 1:50:00):

http://www.justin.tv/kgp700/b/352747401
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
December 31 2012 19:54 GMT
#88942
Dynamic Duo and Primary was cool, but I wish Zion. T could have been there too.

On January 01 2013 01:23 Hall0wed wrote:
Fuck Shinee is too good. That was nearly 100% live singing for those saying they couldn't do that dance and sing, you could even clearly hear Minho which is something. Jonghyun just on another level.


I agree, Shinee killed it.
logikly
Profile Joined February 2009
United States329 Posts
December 31 2012 19:58 GMT
#88943
On December 31 2012 18:31 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 18:01 logikly wrote:
and the problem with Ailee is?

fat (relatively speaking), bulbous nose, weak jawline etc.

but yea, what's already been reiterated - not a very good top 100 face list anyhow.
NO SVETA UTKINA?



SHe's Fat? No, she's perfect. I dont want to a twig i want a girl with some meat to her. I dont want a fat girl but some meat. I dont understand Korea obsession with anorexic females. Anways back to KMD.
함은정,류화영,남규리
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 31 2012 20:07 GMT
#88944
Hyosung's sexy act is starting to get stale. Something new plox;
liftlift > tsm
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 20:25:23
December 31 2012 20:21 GMT
#88945
On January 01 2013 05:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Hyosung's sexy act is starting to get stale. Something new plox;


Yeah I was about to say something similiar, starting to feel like a one trick pony. Shake ass, shake boobs ok next video.

Want something new? Then holy shiiiiit this performance!
Nana looking super sexy, Raina with winered hair, Uee with black hair and Jooyeon looking like a total 11/10 babe and all their outfits being hot as fuuuuuuck especially the leg thing they got going on. The remix isn't bad either. After School fucking top tier! Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! JungAh leading this group like a boss!
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 20:44:40
December 31 2012 20:25 GMT
#88946
Raina always looks out of place in After School... Mostly because they do sexy concepts, but her puffy cheeks never quite seem to fit with their outfits and what not; much better in orange caramel where cute/dorky concepts fit her looks.

Nana always looks good, in everything, ever. Can't explain it, but she's definitely top tier in looks.

As far as Hyosung goes, it's cool to do sexy as a concept all the time; but there are definitely different ways to do sexy, at this point its just shaking her assets during solo break or something, and that's it....

EDIT: Just saw Sistar's Alone performance, god that rock remix is atrocious. NEVER AGAIN PLEASE, for my sanity.
liftlift > tsm
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
December 31 2012 20:32 GMT
#88947
On January 01 2013 05:21 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Hyosung's sexy act is starting to get stale. Something new plox;


Yeah I was about to say something similiar, starting to feel like a one trick pony. Shake ass, shake boobs ok next video.

Want something new? Then holy shiiiiit this performance!
Nana looking super sexy, Raina with winered hair, Uee with black hair and Jooyeon looking like a total 11/10 babe and all their outfits being hot as fuuuuuuck especially the leg thing they got going on. The remix isn't bad either. After School fucking top tier! Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! JungAh leading this group like a boss!
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5H8h8sXqxI


Pretty much agree with this, well didnt pay much attention to raina and dont even know who jooyeon is but yeah...nana and uee look superfine in this performance.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 31 2012 20:51 GMT
#88948
On January 01 2013 02:36 Doulmaigus wrote:
and new member?


Fuck that shit, GsD great as 4. Only after-popularity addition I've ever liked is Woohee (not counting Hara/Jiyoung, GsD additions, etc.)
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
December 31 2012 20:59 GMT
#88949
On January 01 2013 02:07 Kaiwa wrote:
SBS > MBC > KBS imo.

Calling SBS Gayo a glorified inki is outrageous imo. The production quality was so high.


Except the guy MC sucked ass and more than 1.5 hours of the show was for that Dynamic shit.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 31 2012 21:25 GMT
#88950
Hmm dat Yuri not bad huh.
WriterXiao8~~
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
December 31 2012 22:52 GMT
#88951
On January 01 2013 05:21 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Hyosung's sexy act is starting to get stale. Something new plox;


Yeah I was about to say something similiar, starting to feel like a one trick pony. Shake ass, shake boobs ok next video.

Want something new? Then holy shiiiiit this performance!
Nana looking super sexy, Raina with winered hair, Uee with black hair and Jooyeon looking like a total 11/10 babe and all their outfits being hot as fuuuuuuck especially the leg thing they got going on. The remix isn't bad either. After School fucking top tier! Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! JungAh leading this group like a boss!
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5H8h8sXqxI

It's pretty amazing how AS managed to have so many good looking girls in such a large group. The only one I don't find attractive is E-Young (Kaeun has some strange allure for me..).
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 23:06:24
December 31 2012 22:59 GMT
#88952
MBC cameraguy focusing on random GsD backup dancer when they were walking/stumbling into position had me in a fit, what with the chances of there being a new addition.
Losing Jihae was a fair bit of suck, but cramming in some random girl in is just going to be salting the wound.
Slowboat with Nipponese releases has finally arrived
+ Show Spoiler [Disappoint?] +

Maybe only a third disappoint. Helps that I'm learning to not be hyped at all to begin with.
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Orenji Caramel] +

[image loading]
Getting two minimum was required, what with there being two cover variants, legit money milking.
Lum-esque costumes pretty much covered the doubling down. Would have gotten all three content variations if I had noticed the third had a photoshoot vid.
Though, admittedly the dvd content suffers from a sort of diminishing returns. The more albums you grab for the extra DVD, the more you realize just how shit the encoding is and how much they under pack these dvds.
These releases were carrying only 800mb worth of content, last I checked, DVDs have a max capacity a hell lot higher than that.
+ Show Spoiler [Point of interest] +

They put the cover image on the rear side of the jewel case. I kind of like this idea since booklets are easy to damage and those little retainers can snap off letting the booklets have free reign.
Though usually the back part is sealed, but it's a two CD case, so there's not really anything keeping the cover in place and protected.
[image loading]
[image loading]

Also, fuck you + Show Spoiler [Lady Luck] +

comes with a trading card (one randomly chosen from four available styles)

(one randomly chosen from four available styles)

one

four available styles

Not sure if that means there were only four different cards or there were four different variants of three solos and presumably one group shot. Given that they clearly had at least two outfits on hand, the latter seems likely.
[image loading]
SO HOW THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN?!
Four album versions.
Presumably a pool of sixteen cards.
I get double Riji-ed, not only that it's dup.
Fuck all things.



Pre-requisite+ Show Spoiler [T-ara content] +

+ Show Spoiler [Sexy Lub] +

[image loading]
Not + Show Spoiler [much] +

[image loading]
[image loading]
Just card stock case.
The releases.
A trading card. Soyeon GET!
A tiny fold out poster/lyrics print out.
Minimalist as always.


to look at.

+ Show Spoiler [T-ara's Best of] +

[image loading]
Receive photobook, cd, dvd, fold out lyrics sheet, and two post cards.
+ Show Spoiler [Contents] +

Just 72 pages, non-gloss. Decidedly less impressive than the retail vacation photobook and probably the limited first one.
[image loading]
[image loading]
But hey, there's Hwayoungs to be had. So already a step better than the retail vacation book.




-
Hmm, nevermind, given the duplicate Rijis, it seems more likely that they only had a pool of four cards.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 31 2012 23:07 GMT
#88953
On January 01 2013 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
Raina always looks out of place in After School... Mostly because they do sexy concepts, but her puffy cheeks never quite seem to fit with their outfits and what not; much better in orange caramel where cute/dorky concepts fit her looks.

Nana always looks good, in everything, ever. Can't explain it, but she's definitely top tier in looks.

As far as Hyosung goes, it's cool to do sexy as a concept all the time; but there are definitely different ways to do sexy, at this point its just shaking her assets during solo break or something, and that's it....

EDIT: Just saw Sistar's Alone performance, god that rock remix is atrocious. NEVER AGAIN PLEASE, for my sanity.

Raina is the vocal carry though, so they can't do much.
She looked super awkward in some of the earlier songs at trying to do sexy, while in OC or AS Blue she doesn't even look like she's trying, compared to someone like Lizzy.

But then they know she's not on the sexy side, which is why she gets AS Blue and OC, but they do sometimes accentuate her cheeks like in that perf with the blusher, which doesn't exactly help...
HOLY CHECK!
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 31 2012 23:11 GMT
#88954
really surprised, never really cared for shinee but that perf was awesome, top3 for me now male live performance (i like cn blue and f.t island O.o)

sistar was awesome, soyu really rocks that style, miss a best as always (favourite band so go figure) and secret is awesome too, dont understand the hyosung hate, she is perfect T_T; a lot of the stuff i just skimmed throu, specially the male idols, pretty weak imo, after school can be mentioned, dont like that song too much, they got better stuff but oh well~
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 23:32:20
December 31 2012 23:22 GMT
#88955
I dont give a shit about shinee either. But sherlock is actually pretty good and it has one of the best choreographys of 2012.

Sistar remix HUGE meh even though sistar is in my top 3 groups, miss a remix would be decent if it wasnt for the fact that they sped up the vocals by like 10-15% which was just weird....amazing performance anyway though.

And the hyosung thing...Even though she has the body i dont sexy comes naturally to her really. I appreciate her efforts either way though.

PS. Being really bored i was youtubing random shit i found AS flashback dance practice vid which i dont think was posted, but ill spoiler anyway. Lizzy at 1:39 and 2:20 making mistakes and laughing it off...thought that was pretty cute.

+ Show Spoiler +
Woorior
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 23:42:44
December 31 2012 23:42 GMT
#88956
On January 01 2013 05:21 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Hyosung's sexy act is starting to get stale. Something new plox;


Yeah I was about to say something similiar, starting to feel like a one trick pony. Shake ass, shake boobs ok next video.

Want something new? Then holy shiiiiit this performance!
Nana looking super sexy, Raina with winered hair, Uee with black hair and Jooyeon looking like a total 11/10 babe and all their outfits being hot as fuuuuuuck especially the leg thing they got going on. The remix isn't bad either. After School fucking top tier! Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! JungAh leading this group like a boss!
+ Show Spoiler +


Warning: Large gif.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9789 Posts
December 31 2012 23:49 GMT
#88957
On January 01 2013 04:54 Monocle wrote:
Dynamic Duo and Primary was cool, but I wish Zion. T could have been there too.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 01:23 Hall0wed wrote:
Fuck Shinee is too good. That was nearly 100% live singing for those saying they couldn't do that dance and sing, you could even clearly hear Minho which is something. Jonghyun just on another level.


I agree, Shinee killed it.

I fucking love Zion T. Everything with his name on it has completely enraptured me.
boomer hands
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 23:55:29
December 31 2012 23:54 GMT
#88958
On January 01 2013 08:22 TunaBarrett wrote:
I dont give a shit about shinee either. But sherlock is actually pretty good and it has one of the best choreographys of 2012.

Sistar remix HUGE meh even though sistar is in my top 3 groups, miss a remix would be decent if it wasnt for the fact that they sped up the vocals by like 10-15% which was just weird....amazing performance anyway though.

And the hyosung thing...Even though she has the body i dont sexy comes naturally to her really. I appreciate her efforts either way though.

PS. Being really bored i was youtubing random shit i found AS flashback dance practice vid which i dont think was posted, but ill spoiler anyway. Lizzy at 1:39 and 2:20 making mistakes and laughing it off...thought that was pretty cute.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPsoes0eoU0

I've seen this before, so it might have been posted here. But damn, Nana is so hot. Next concept should just be wearing tanktops and tights. Just look at Nana and Jungah (even though I think they're probably the most stacked in the group).

On January 01 2013 08:42 Woorior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:21 DwD wrote:
On January 01 2013 05:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Hyosung's sexy act is starting to get stale. Something new plox;


Yeah I was about to say something similiar, starting to feel like a one trick pony. Shake ass, shake boobs ok next video.

Want something new? Then holy shiiiiit this performance!
Nana looking super sexy, Raina with winered hair, Uee with black hair and Jooyeon looking like a total 11/10 babe and all their outfits being hot as fuuuuuuck especially the leg thing they got going on. The remix isn't bad either. After School fucking top tier! Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! JungAh leading this group like a boss!
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5H8h8sXqxl


Warning: Large gif.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

So much Nana... This is glorious.
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
December 31 2012 23:58 GMT
#88959
Since im reposting stuff i might aswell continue with this great song.

+ Show Spoiler [Simon D Feat. zion t] +
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 01:38:58
January 01 2013 00:07 GMT
#88960
Damn Son, apparently Rain is dating Kim Tae hee, hooooly fuck if it's true.

http://www.allkpop.com/2012/12/breaking-rain-and-kim-tae-hee-dating
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