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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 14 2012 09:37 Moonwrath wrote: Tiffany wink! + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l604/runningmanpro/Sep12/oh/18.gif) bonus hq wink + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l604/runningmanpro/Sep12/oh/20.gif) Fuck, dude. I love you. I would honestly marry this woman, though. All of my heart. | ||
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Sc2zero7
United States574 Posts
Its funny reading people argue about the choreo when the only opinion that matters is your own. Unless your're weak and just bandwagon. | ||
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
On September 14 2012 09:40 Vorgrim wrote: Ridiculous prudish debate. Consider these girls are not getting these jobs for being the best vocalists in the land. They are, for the most part, pretty faces dancing and singing in scanty clothes for the pleasure of men. If Sunhwa wants to slap her clit in a music video, why not? She's an adult and this is 2012. What the fuck? Do you not get this at all? There is a certain quality to Kpop that makes it so unique when compared to other forms of pop. Why the fuck do you think we make and fawn over gifs about moves that would otherwise be commonplace? Why when we see undergarments or flailing thighs are we all giddy about it? If I wanted to watch porn I'd fucking watch porn dammit, If I wanted to see moves a stripper would do I'd go to a strip club. Just because things are generally more conservative in Kpop doesn't make a debate about whether certain choreography is ok in certain contexts "prudish". "They are, for the most part, pretty faces dancing and singing in scanty clothes for the pleasure of men." Also I find your general view of these idols to be degrading and childish. If this is what you want go back to american pop or watch some Japanese stripper cams and play some fucking pop in the back-round. You really just don't get it. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On September 14 2012 09:47 Kuja wrote: What the fuck? Do you not get this at all? There is a certain quality to Kpop that makes it so unique when compared to other forms of pop. Why the fuck do you think we make and fawn over gifs about moves that would otherwise be commonplace? Why when we see undergarments or flailing thighs are we all giddy about it? If I wanted to watch porn I'd fucking watch porn dammit, If I wanted to see moves a stripper would do I'd go to a strip club. Just because things are generally more conservative in Kpop doesn't make a debate about whether certain choreography is ok in certain contexts "prudish". "They are, for the most part, pretty faces dancing and singing in scanty clothes for the pleasure of men." Also I find your general view of these idols to be degrading and childish. If this is what you want go back to american pop or watch some Japanese stripper cams and play some fucking pop in the back-round. You really just don't get it. Which Kuja are you? | ||
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chocopan
Japan986 Posts
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TuElite
Canada2123 Posts
"Less is more" ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1xq2z.jpg) | ||
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Moonwrath
United States9568 Posts
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Fawkes
Canada1935 Posts
I don't care what this one has said in the past or what he will say in the future. This Kuja is now #1. Was sleeping soundly when that Oh! thing hit, loved the outfits over the original one by a long shot and also the hairstyles so good. Made some of them so extremely cute. KR lyrics sounded way better though. | ||
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
My plans to go smoking and drinking fell through, I'm the original. Is there really that much a disparity? I mean I don't read any of coltons posts but are they that bad? | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
I can get behind a "the reason most of us like kpop is the not-quite-over-the-top-sexiness" statement, but I do think that his reaction to Vorgrim's statement was a bit overblown and don't think that Vorgrim was suggesting that kpop idols should go "all the way sexy". And I also think that Vorgrim's sentence about (female) kpop groups essentially being faces or legz or whatever. Obviously not to a "please sexual desires" extent but he's basically bluntly stating what many of us have said before- kpop is at least 50% visuals. Many others have stated that if it was just audio without visuals they wouldn't be interested. Saying that kpop groups are "there" to be eye candy, while perhaps harshly stated, isn't as extreme of a position here as you seem to be making it. | ||
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Jarzai
United States702 Posts
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falconfan02
United States231 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
so far this is what I got. + Show Spoiler + hyorin (sistar) ga-in son (beg) nicole (kara) hyosung (secret) lime/lemon (hello venus) linzy (fiestar) sooyoung and sunny (snsd) yubin (wonder girls) eun jung (t-ara) PM me any that I'm missing. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
Maybe it's also because Rania was a smaller group and Secret also occasionally does cute concepts? Wonder how people would react if a "sexy only" group like T-ara had choreo like this. I mean, Hyomin basically rubbed her crotch while lying down for IGCBOY choreo and no one complained then. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Edit: @Wei2, you're missing short-hair Tiffany (imporant yo) and Crayon Pop's ChoA. | ||
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:07 falconfan02 wrote: Some of what Vogrim said is true to an extent though. For a lot of people they are just pretty faces and nothing more. Obviously this isn't the case in a community like this that appreciates the genre more than most, but let's be honest. If it wasn't for the pretty girls and revealing outfits kpop probably wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is. Sex sells in every country, not just the US. Getting sexier wouldn't hurt the genre financially at all. I'm sorry, but that statement is so wrong it just screams your own ignorance. Educate yourself. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:10 Kuja wrote: I'm sorry, but that statement is so wrong it just screams your own ignorance. Educate yourself. Actually I don't think so. KMD is skewed a bit differently than other communities but I know of plenty that basically only care about the looks and nothing else. Plus a financial argument in a foreign community thread is basically useless because almost none of us can say how people in Korea/Japan (the people actually buying a vast vast majority of shit) feel. | ||
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MethodSC
United States928 Posts
/s Seriously this much crying over nothing needs to move over to AKP and never come back. Some of you are grown ass men, act like it. | ||
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ASie
United States777 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:09 DystopiaX wrote: I'm a bit surprised that this came with the Secret vid and not with earlier ones like Dr. Feel Good, although I suppose our population has grown a bit. Maybe it's also because Rania was a smaller group and Secret also occasionally does cute concepts? Wonder how people would react if a "sexy only" group like T-ara had choreo like this. I mean, Hyomin basically rubbed her crotch while lying down for IGCBOY choreo and no one complained then. Also, Eunjung during Sexy Love (when she rubs her crotch but everyone else stops at their stomachs). But when people did point it out, they spoke nothing negatively about it. | ||
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