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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2012 19:26 GMT
#65581
That's pretty cool.

Still not going to buy that shitty series or the Kinect, but it's kind of cool.
It's your boy Guzma!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 23 2012 19:30 GMT
#65582
looks so out of place amongst the other songs :s
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 19:47:52
July 23 2012 19:42 GMT
#65583
On July 24 2012 03:57 ASie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 03:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:40 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:35 ShmeeZZy wrote:
I don't think I "forced" them per say. I carefully inserted some kpop songs I thought could work into a playlist with a lot of western pop songs that people hear when they go out to see what the effects were. To the people who said to play up the girls are hot angle, I've tried that before with friends in non party settings. That didn't work for me.

Tie 'em to a chair and force them to watch bubble pop on repeat for a few hours, I'm sure that'd have some sort of effect

That's what happened to me. I like bubble pop a lot now.

nah, the most basic "intro to kpop" song would definitely be gee, seems to have the best effect.

Gee is THE freaking gateway drug. Although if your friends are coming from a more electronic background, Electric Shock wouldn't be a bad place to start. A lot of K-Pop has some interesting sounds that may get some time getting used to, though. I don't know if your friends can handle the broken English, because some of mine can't.

I actually introduced one of my friends to kpop through Electric shock. It wasn't on purpose but surprisingly good reception. I personally still cringe inside at Krystal's "laser" line even though I love the song. Taking a tally of successful intro songs I've used we have

Gee (4.5) + Show Spoiler +

The half on Gee and Lovey Dovey is the same person, I actually showed him Gee but he came back a day later playing Lovey Dovey on loop for like 5 hours straight.

Lovey Dovey (1.5)
Electric Shock (1)
Cry Cry (1)

Interesting to note that Gee/Lovey were all males and the other 2 were females. (Both of these girls had seen Gee before to no effect).

Although I'm convinced that the actual factor that gets you into kpop is having a bias. Obviously you can't have a bias without an introduction first but without a bias, it seems to stagnate at a handful (2-6) of songs. Once you have a bias though, you pretty much snowball yourself into kpop madness.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
July 23 2012 19:43 GMT
#65584
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


This has been my background since I got into kpop. Even though she isn't my bias, not even in SNSD, everytime I have switched I feel a sense of loss.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 23 2012 19:45 GMT
#65585
On July 24 2012 04:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 03:57 ASie wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:40 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:35 ShmeeZZy wrote:
I don't think I "forced" them per say. I carefully inserted some kpop songs I thought could work into a playlist with a lot of western pop songs that people hear when they go out to see what the effects were. To the people who said to play up the girls are hot angle, I've tried that before with friends in non party settings. That didn't work for me.

Tie 'em to a chair and force them to watch bubble pop on repeat for a few hours, I'm sure that'd have some sort of effect

That's what happened to me. I like bubble pop a lot now.

nah, the most basic "intro to kpop" song would definitely be gee, seems to have the best effect.

Gee is THE freaking gateway drug. Although if your friends are coming from a more electronic background, Electric Shock wouldn't be a bad place to start. A lot of K-Pop has some interesting sounds that may get some time getting used to, though. I don't know if your friends can handle the broken English, because some of mine can't.

I actually introduced one of my friends to kpop through Electric shock. It wasn't on purpose but surprisingly good reception. I personally still cringe inside at Krystal's "laser" line even though I love the song. Taking a tally of successful intro songs I've used we have

Gee (4.5) + Show Spoiler +

The half on Gee and Lovey Dovey is the same person, I actually showed him Gee but he came back a day later playing Lovey Dovey on loop for like 5 hours straight.

Lovey Dovey (1.5)
Electric Shock (1)
Cry Cry (1)

Interesting to note that Gee/Lovey were all males and the other 2 were females. (Both of these girls had seen Gee before to no effect).

Agree on those being good picks, but let me drop a wild card for ya.

I had huge success with YaYaYa.

As wtf as that might sound, that is exactly the point. Many people will assume that what you're showing them is nothing but a troll in the first place, so by going with something as extremely wtf as that, there is no risk whatsoever as you've always got a free ticket out, and it'll make most people laugh. It might not be a good song in itself, but you get a secondary reason to introduce people to it, making it easier to push onwards towards giving them the real deal.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2012 19:51 GMT
#65586
@aloT

To be fair, that is a stupidly adorable picture.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sugarfluff
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden132 Posts
July 23 2012 19:52 GMT
#65587
On July 24 2012 04:45 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 04:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:57 ASie wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:40 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:35 ShmeeZZy wrote:
I don't think I "forced" them per say. I carefully inserted some kpop songs I thought could work into a playlist with a lot of western pop songs that people hear when they go out to see what the effects were. To the people who said to play up the girls are hot angle, I've tried that before with friends in non party settings. That didn't work for me.

Tie 'em to a chair and force them to watch bubble pop on repeat for a few hours, I'm sure that'd have some sort of effect

That's what happened to me. I like bubble pop a lot now.

nah, the most basic "intro to kpop" song would definitely be gee, seems to have the best effect.

Gee is THE freaking gateway drug. Although if your friends are coming from a more electronic background, Electric Shock wouldn't be a bad place to start. A lot of K-Pop has some interesting sounds that may get some time getting used to, though. I don't know if your friends can handle the broken English, because some of mine can't.

I actually introduced one of my friends to kpop through Electric shock. It wasn't on purpose but surprisingly good reception. I personally still cringe inside at Krystal's "laser" line even though I love the song. Taking a tally of successful intro songs I've used we have

Gee (4.5) + Show Spoiler +

The half on Gee and Lovey Dovey is the same person, I actually showed him Gee but he came back a day later playing Lovey Dovey on loop for like 5 hours straight.

Lovey Dovey (1.5)
Electric Shock (1)
Cry Cry (1)

Interesting to note that Gee/Lovey were all males and the other 2 were females. (Both of these girls had seen Gee before to no effect).

Agree on those being good picks, but let me drop a wild card for ya.

I had huge success with YaYaYa.

As wtf as that might sound, that is exactly the point. Many people will assume that what you're showing them is nothing but a troll in the first place, so by going with something as extremely wtf as that, there is no risk whatsoever as you've always got a free ticket out, and it'll make most people laugh. It might not be a good song in itself, but you get a secondary reason to introduce people to it, making it easier to push onwards towards giving them the real deal.


Might try YaYaYa, so far the only korean song my friends have accepted is Gangnam style. In no small part due to the video, which can definitely be considered "extremely wtf". Granted it is quite different from the stuff I prefer myself but I'm hoping it's a start which I can build on.
If something is funny, it is worth doing.
Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 23 2012 19:53 GMT
#65588
Woories and that orange hair...... too good
[image loading]
@Lokk_2/Go Woori 우리
Taesica
Profile Joined July 2012
United States173 Posts
July 23 2012 20:01 GMT
#65589
On July 24 2012 04:52 Sugarfluff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 04:45 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 24 2012 04:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:57 ASie wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:40 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:35 ShmeeZZy wrote:
I don't think I "forced" them per say. I carefully inserted some kpop songs I thought could work into a playlist with a lot of western pop songs that people hear when they go out to see what the effects were. To the people who said to play up the girls are hot angle, I've tried that before with friends in non party settings. That didn't work for me.

Tie 'em to a chair and force them to watch bubble pop on repeat for a few hours, I'm sure that'd have some sort of effect

That's what happened to me. I like bubble pop a lot now.

nah, the most basic "intro to kpop" song would definitely be gee, seems to have the best effect.

Gee is THE freaking gateway drug. Although if your friends are coming from a more electronic background, Electric Shock wouldn't be a bad place to start. A lot of K-Pop has some interesting sounds that may get some time getting used to, though. I don't know if your friends can handle the broken English, because some of mine can't.

I actually introduced one of my friends to kpop through Electric shock. It wasn't on purpose but surprisingly good reception. I personally still cringe inside at Krystal's "laser" line even though I love the song. Taking a tally of successful intro songs I've used we have

Gee (4.5) + Show Spoiler +

The half on Gee and Lovey Dovey is the same person, I actually showed him Gee but he came back a day later playing Lovey Dovey on loop for like 5 hours straight.

Lovey Dovey (1.5)
Electric Shock (1)
Cry Cry (1)

Interesting to note that Gee/Lovey were all males and the other 2 were females. (Both of these girls had seen Gee before to no effect).

Agree on those being good picks, but let me drop a wild card for ya.

I had huge success with YaYaYa.

As wtf as that might sound, that is exactly the point. Many people will assume that what you're showing them is nothing but a troll in the first place, so by going with something as extremely wtf as that, there is no risk whatsoever as you've always got a free ticket out, and it'll make most people laugh. It might not be a good song in itself, but you get a secondary reason to introduce people to it, making it easier to push onwards towards giving them the real deal.


Might try YaYaYa, so far the only korean song my friends have accepted is Gangnam style. In no small part due to the video, which can definitely be considered "extremely wtf". Granted it is quite different from the stuff I prefer myself but I'm hoping it's a start which I can build on.


yeah it seems like everyone likes Gangnam Style. was watching the Korean WCS Prelims yesterday and they played it during 'commercial' break, and everyone was going crazy all night demanding moar Gangnam Style. i kept trying to get them to put on Bing Bing during commercial, to little avail :[
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
July 23 2012 20:07 GMT
#65590
gangnam style is this year's bubble pop
:)
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 23 2012 20:23 GMT
#65591
On July 24 2012 05:07 unichan wrote:
gangnam style is this year's bubble pop

I dislike both as well as bing bing.
row row fight the kmd train

I wonder if boa is going to sing live if she performs that choreo on stage. that routine looks exhausting.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
ShmeeZZy
Profile Joined January 2012
United States254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 20:24:46
July 23 2012 20:23 GMT
#65592
On July 24 2012 04:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 03:57 ASie wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 24 2012 03:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:40 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:35 ShmeeZZy wrote:
I don't think I "forced" them per say. I carefully inserted some kpop songs I thought could work into a playlist with a lot of western pop songs that people hear when they go out to see what the effects were. To the people who said to play up the girls are hot angle, I've tried that before with friends in non party settings. That didn't work for me.

Tie 'em to a chair and force them to watch bubble pop on repeat for a few hours, I'm sure that'd have some sort of effect

That's what happened to me. I like bubble pop a lot now.

nah, the most basic "intro to kpop" song would definitely be gee, seems to have the best effect.

Gee is THE freaking gateway drug. Although if your friends are coming from a more electronic background, Electric Shock wouldn't be a bad place to start. A lot of K-Pop has some interesting sounds that may get some time getting used to, though. I don't know if your friends can handle the broken English, because some of mine can't.

I actually introduced one of my friends to kpop through Electric shock. It wasn't on purpose but surprisingly good reception. I personally still cringe inside at Krystal's "laser" line even though I love the song. Taking a tally of successful intro songs I've used we have

Gee (4.5) + Show Spoiler +

The half on Gee and Lovey Dovey is the same person, I actually showed him Gee but he came back a day later playing Lovey Dovey on loop for like 5 hours straight.

Lovey Dovey (1.5)
Electric Shock (1)
Cry Cry (1)

Interesting to note that Gee/Lovey were all males and the other 2 were females. (Both of these girls had seen Gee before to no effect).

Although I'm convinced that the actual factor that gets you into kpop is having a bias. Obviously you can't have a bias without an introduction first but without a bias, it seems to stagnate at a handful (2-6) of songs. Once you have a bias though, you pretty much snowball yourself into kpop madness.


Here are the songs I have tried using with multiple friends at different venues and on the playlist. Surprisingly, people don’t like it when you try to sandwich in T-ara’s “Like the first time” with Usher’s”Scream” and David Guetta’s “Titanium”. Who knew?
Wonder Girls
• Like Money
• Stop!
• SuperB

Miss A
• Love Alone -Got the worse reaction =(
T-ara
• Like the first time
2NE1
• I love you
SNSD
• Gee
• Genie
• Boys
Hyuna
• Bubble Pop

The bold are the songs I tried at the party. The SNSD songs I avoided from that party because of the reactions I received from friends when I tried playing it in front of them. “What is this? Kids Bop?” I cringe whenever I get that reaction! Same reason why I have avoided playing a song like Lovey Dovey around any of my friends.

I agree with the bias theory. I didn't start to snowball untill I had my Sunny bias. After that it was all downhill. Once I had all the SNSD songs I wanted, I started to expand out to the other groups.
www.twitch.tv/shmeezzy |shmeezzy.tumblr.com|last.fm/user/ShmeeZZy
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 23 2012 20:31 GMT
#65593
If you're gonna introduce it in such a straight up manner of fashion, then you need an entry point. You can't just pick a little here and there and hope that that'll be enough, you need to find a way for someone to actually fall for something, doesn't matter if it's a song, a group or a girl, but as long as you get a single victory, once the seed is sown, it'll kinda reap itself. After that it's easy to keep going, or just wait and they'll do it themselves.
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
July 23 2012 20:32 GMT
#65594
I've had the most success with Electroboyz - Ma Boy 2. Everyone just loves that song.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
July 23 2012 20:56 GMT
#65595
or just not give a fuck to what your friends think.
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
July 23 2012 20:56 GMT
#65596
Only ecounter any of my friends have had with kpop is sistar - ma boy. A friend somehow found the dance practice video by himself. Enjoyments were had.
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
July 23 2012 20:57 GMT
#65597
If people say K-pop is just generic and mindless, I'll usually show them IU vids, becuase of how damn cute she is. If they say that it's "the gayest shit on the planet," nothing shuts them up faster than bubble Pop. Genie and Gee also seem to work pretty well.
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2012 20:57 GMT
#65598
My one friend listens to Run Devil Run because he plays Ahri on LoL. Refuses to listen to any other ones, though.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 23 2012 20:57 GMT
#65599
Sistar's Ma Boy, and Alone are pretty good intro song, but then again that's just my bias. <3 Hyorin.

Gangnam style is a bad intro song imo, it'll give the wrong impression of Kpop to kpop virgins.

Epik high is pretty good intro too, w/ wannabe, and run
liftlift > tsm
ShmeeZZy
Profile Joined January 2012
United States254 Posts
July 23 2012 20:59 GMT
#65600
On July 24 2012 05:56 Pulselol wrote:
or just not give a fuck to what your friends think.

Not about caring what my firends think. It's about having people to share the experience with. KMD is nice and all but I would like to have some RL friends to go to concerts or listen to music with.
www.twitch.tv/shmeezzy |shmeezzy.tumblr.com|last.fm/user/ShmeeZZy
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