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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 14:10:34
July 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#64941
piano cello some really bad guitar.
Although I havent really done much of anything since last year lol

Started when I was 4, I think I'm just pathetic.

now that I think about it that makes it closer to 15 years...damn
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 15:01:36
July 19 2012 14:15 GMT
#64942
In addition to everyone saying T-ara - Absolute First Album I'll throw a couple others in.

SNSD - Run Devil Run repackage, Hoot, First Japan Album, Twinkle
SPICA - Painkiller
2NE1 - To Anyone, 2nd Mini Album
Nell - Slip Away
IU - Real+, Growing Up
GD&TOP - vol.1
Big Bang - 4th mini album, Asia Best 2006-2009
EXO - MAMA
CNBLUE - Blue Love, Bluetory, First Step

Also, idk if anyone watches it, but on SBS Hanbam, Psy made a surprise appearance and just came in, danced, and left, and the MC's had no idea it was going to happen. Pretty funny.

At 3m.


edit: Oh, I forgot, just get every TVXQ album, especially Mirotic.
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Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 14:21:03
July 19 2012 14:20 GMT
#64943
I can't tell you what a chord is without a guitar in my hands. I think it's called relative pitch being able to easily find a note/chord based on how it sounds next to another. I have that reasonably down through practice. Enough to transcribe pop songs quickly.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 19 2012 14:21 GMT
#64944
On July 19 2012 23:10 DystopiaX wrote:
piano cello some really bad guitar.
Although I havent really done much of anything since last year lol

Started when I was 4, I think I'm just pathetic.

now that I think about it that makes it closer to 15 years...damn

Awww it's ok ;__; at least you do have some musical training ^^

@Moonwrath, thanks!

Before I was actually thinking I wouldn't even have to use JDownloader but for some reason Chrome decided to die on me and I lost all the unfinished downloads fml. Well now I can put mediafire do some good use keke.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 19 2012 14:33 GMT
#64945
On July 19 2012 23:15 Moonwrath wrote:
Also, idk if anyone watches it, but on SBS Hanbam, Psy made a surprise appearance and just came in, danced, and left, and the MC's had no idea it was going to happen. Pretty funny.

At 3m.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTZDswNIBxU&feature=youtu.be&t=3m4s

Psy's so awesome, gotta love these kind of surprises.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
July 19 2012 15:01 GMT
#64946
Brown Eyed Girls - First Album
KARA - Revolution, スーパーガール(Super girl)

Are some of my favorite KPop albums, I would definitely recommend them to anyone. Don't know why they haven't been mentioned.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 15:26:24
July 19 2012 15:24 GMT
#64947
God dammit, this laptop is just crapping out on me for some reason. I think it somehow got some malware but I don't understand all of its functions because everything is in fucking Chinese except for the stuff in the browser because I managed to set the broswer to English.

It can't even download anything without the processor going to 100% nonstop (actually it just does that spontaneously), no idea whatsoever why. If I disappear from TL for a while it will be because this laptop just died on me. Only managed to get 3 albums downloaded (Absolute First, Sound-G, and Hello Venus). It's just weird because even though it's an ancient inspiron 710m, it has been working fine and can even stream GSL matches and also let me post at the same time. Suddenly now I think I infected it or something because it's just dying on me.

I will check out those albums as well if I can get to it. Dang, now because I'm worry about random stuff and because I'm a perfectionist, I will beat myself up over not being able to download all of the albums .____.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 19 2012 15:30 GMT
#64948
How long are albums up on k2nblog? I keep going to download older albums, but the links are always dead ends. Works for newer stuff, of course.
It's your boy Guzma!
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 19 2012 15:30 GMT
#64949
On July 19 2012 22:29 Aerisky wrote:
Probably off topic
+ Show Spoiler [maybe off-topic? D +
Perfect pitch is great because I really enjoy music, but it's not something you're born with, no matter what people tell you. Some people might pick it up faster than others, but if you start playing, for instance, the piano before the age of 4 or 5 and consistently practice for years, you are essentially guaranteed to develop perfect pitch. Also at the same time it's not so great because I have pure-O OCD (actually might get around to posting a blog and asking for help on that) which is sort of like mental OCD. And I will replay phrases over and over in my head to make sure I have the notes right even though I know they're right. Or just replay it in my head because fuck me. Doesn't apply just to music, but you get the idea ;__;

But I need to tell you,
1. It's not proven either way whether or not Absolute or Perfect Pitch is learned or genetic.
2. I know several people who started their instruments before age 5 have played ever since and do not have perfect pitch. Myself included. It is comical to say it is a guarantee.

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Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
July 19 2012 15:32 GMT
#64950
Not that hot on Hello Venus' album, but the other two are top notch. May not be the most popular around here, but grab Gangkiz's repackaged album too imo. Has been getting a lot of play from me.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 15:58:59
July 19 2012 15:33 GMT
#64951
Fair enough then, obviously I don't know what I'm saying (usually don't :<). Wikipedia'd it. Yeah apparently it's unknown whether it's nature or nurture and a controlled test would be unethical (i.e. forcing kids to undergo early musical training or not).

Also I am not going the $#@! to bed until I dl all of these. Screw sleep, I don't know how long this computer will hold up with the kind of loads I am putting on it.

Edit: just kidding I am too old and too lazy for this, and we'll just have to wait until tomorrow to see because 1 hour is too long for me to stay up at this point

@Requizen: usually after several months. It depends, I guess. 4shared is extremely useful for older songs/albums. Just type in the song/album and 4shared into google, literally all you need to do and google will spit out bright and shiny and pretty quick 4shared links. You need an account now but it's free.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
July 19 2012 16:16 GMT
#64952
On July 20 2012 00:24 Aerisky wrote:
God dammit, this laptop is just crapping out on me for some reason. I think it somehow got some malware but I don't understand all of its functions because everything is in fucking Chinese except for the stuff in the browser because I managed to set the broswer to English.

It can't even download anything without the processor going to 100% nonstop (actually it just does that spontaneously), no idea whatsoever why. If I disappear from TL for a while it will be because this laptop just died on me. Only managed to get 3 albums downloaded (Absolute First, Sound-G, and Hello Venus). It's just weird because even though it's an ancient inspiron 710m, it has been working fine and can even stream GSL matches and also let me post at the same time. Suddenly now I think I infected it or something because it's just dying on me.

I will check out those albums as well if I can get to it. Dang, now because I'm worry about random stuff and because I'm a perfectionist, I will beat myself up over not being able to download all of the albums .____.

Should scan it with MalwareBytes or something.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 19 2012 16:20 GMT
#64953
I can't download MalwareBytes lol, already tried. ;___; right now for some reason the comp is working perfectly fine just like it was before. Maybe I'll try downloading MalwareBytes again in the morning.

Sorry for starting the off-topic discussion btdubs <3 KMD, one of the best communities within one of the best communities ^^

Actually hm they will all finish by 36 minutes. Might as well kill some time online and then just pass out and sleep 10/11 hours @_@
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
nichlion
Profile Joined June 2012
United States265 Posts
July 19 2012 16:47 GMT
#64954
On July 20 2012 00:30 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 22:29 Aerisky wrote:
Probably off topic
+ Show Spoiler [maybe off-topic? D +
Perfect pitch is great because I really enjoy music, but it's not something you're born with, no matter what people tell you. Some people might pick it up faster than others, but if you start playing, for instance, the piano before the age of 4 or 5 and consistently practice for years, you are essentially guaranteed to develop perfect pitch. Also at the same time it's not so great because I have pure-O OCD (actually might get around to posting a blog and asking for help on that) which is sort of like mental OCD. And I will replay phrases over and over in my head to make sure I have the notes right even though I know they're right. Or just replay it in my head because fuck me. Doesn't apply just to music, but you get the idea ;__;

But I need to tell you,
1. It's not proven either way whether or not Absolute or Perfect Pitch is learned or genetic.
2. I know several people who started their instruments before age 5 have played ever since and do not have perfect pitch. Myself included. It is comical to say it is a guarantee.


I too have heard that perfect pitch is closer to the genetic side rather than learning it. What you can learn is relative pitch because you become accustomed to hearing the correct pitches and point out the wrong one. My friend has true perfect pitch and I don't know if it is a coincidence that his mother, father, and older brother has it as well. However, his younger sister didn't. They tried to teach her but failed, and she only ended up with a relatively good relative pitch.

Anyways, I just finished watching the SM Town LA broadcast and was disappointed to see that they cut out a lot of it. Though, I do understand any of the covers they did couldn't be broadcasted because of licensing issues. I'm currently waiting for a torrent for the whole broadcast, any help for you guys? lol
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 19 2012 17:00 GMT
#64955
It's definitely a combination of nature and nurture (genetics and practice), otherwise all results would seem to indicate one over the other. Wikipedia has a pretty good article on absolute pitch if you guys want to look it up. I personally am inclined to think that the timing of learning it is important, as early as possible basically. None of my family has perfect pitch except for me and none of them began learning an instrument very early on. I also know a lot of people who began learning the piano when they were young (their families did not have it either) and they also developed perfect pitch.

Hm...to bring it on-topic, are there any kidols known to have perfect pitch? ^^;
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 19 2012 17:20 GMT
#64956
On July 19 2012 21:47 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 19:04 andyrau wrote:
On July 19 2012 17:22 Aerisky wrote:
On July 19 2012 17:11 Zocat wrote:
On July 19 2012 14:02 Aerisky wrote:
Unfortunately the blogs are neither epic nor emotional (also ridiculously long), just about a trip to China. Only annoying thing is lack of youtube because I can't watch any of the videos posted (vimeo is blocked too, ironically enough; check out the chrome extension youtube unblocker for you german guys iirc) but it's not too bad.


Yeah, we have more than 90% of yt stuff blocked as well. Kinda sucks, since they're official releases and everything.
I personally use http://www.unblockyoutube.co.uk/ since I'm a FF guy (and I somehow cba to install the Stealthy plugin).
But as long as there are those options it's doable.


Yeah. There's also a FF add-on from the same guys who made the chrome extension, but yeah, whatever works

By the way, what are some of your guys' favorite kpop albums? I don't know if having perfect pitch has anything to do with it, but I can get used to songs after only 2/3 playthroughs (can remember almost all of it etc and just....dunno gets ...old... or something). Also my playlist has remained stagnant for a long time and would like to get some new songs. Girls or girl groups only preferably also~

that perfect pitch part made me laugh pretty hard

anyways going by that list you gave, pretty much all of absolute first & braking heart by t-ara is what you're looking for.
should maybe youtube search some of casker, clazziquai project & dj clazzi, davichi, and vanilla lucy if you want more.

also supersonic was a pretty middling album considering the rest of younha's discography, should check perfect day to say i love you, growing season part b, or go! younha (comet).

Alright, thanks ^^

Why did I make you laugh? It's implied that it's a disparaging sort of laugh so I'm curious. Usually after hearing a song once or twice I have the melody line memorized and it gets annoying, even for my faves. Hard to explain but it's kinda like getting a song stuck in your head and having the melody down pat...except for every song i.e. I'll hear the opening few beats and can literally pause the song and hum the entire rest of the song. But obviously it's not mostly the perfect pitch, just mentioned that in passing anyway. I think I just get tired/used to songs very quickly for a variety of unknown reasons. ;_;

Thanks all, I'll be sure to check out these recs~! DLing overnight should be perfect c:

because that's (getting tired of songs quickly) not what perfect pitch does.
you clarified it a bit in your second post but your first post made it sound like "i have perfect pitch so songs sound redundant to me."
+ Show Spoiler +
pretty much goes to show most people in this thread have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to music
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MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
July 19 2012 17:28 GMT
#64957
And I don't think most of us claim to.

And that's ok
@x5_MegaFonzie
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 17:39:34
July 19 2012 17:30 GMT
#64958
On July 20 2012 02:20 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 21:47 Aerisky wrote:
On July 19 2012 19:04 andyrau wrote:
On July 19 2012 17:22 Aerisky wrote:
On July 19 2012 17:11 Zocat wrote:
On July 19 2012 14:02 Aerisky wrote:
Unfortunately the blogs are neither epic nor emotional (also ridiculously long), just about a trip to China. Only annoying thing is lack of youtube because I can't watch any of the videos posted (vimeo is blocked too, ironically enough; check out the chrome extension youtube unblocker for you german guys iirc) but it's not too bad.


Yeah, we have more than 90% of yt stuff blocked as well. Kinda sucks, since they're official releases and everything.
I personally use http://www.unblockyoutube.co.uk/ since I'm a FF guy (and I somehow cba to install the Stealthy plugin).
But as long as there are those options it's doable.


Yeah. There's also a FF add-on from the same guys who made the chrome extension, but yeah, whatever works

By the way, what are some of your guys' favorite kpop albums? I don't know if having perfect pitch has anything to do with it, but I can get used to songs after only 2/3 playthroughs (can remember almost all of it etc and just....dunno gets ...old... or something). Also my playlist has remained stagnant for a long time and would like to get some new songs. Girls or girl groups only preferably also~

that perfect pitch part made me laugh pretty hard

anyways going by that list you gave, pretty much all of absolute first & braking heart by t-ara is what you're looking for.
should maybe youtube search some of casker, clazziquai project & dj clazzi, davichi, and vanilla lucy if you want more.

also supersonic was a pretty middling album considering the rest of younha's discography, should check perfect day to say i love you, growing season part b, or go! younha (comet).

Alright, thanks ^^

Why did I make you laugh? It's implied that it's a disparaging sort of laugh so I'm curious. Usually after hearing a song once or twice I have the melody line memorized and it gets annoying, even for my faves. Hard to explain but it's kinda like getting a song stuck in your head and having the melody down pat...except for every song i.e. I'll hear the opening few beats and can literally pause the song and hum the entire rest of the song. But obviously it's not mostly the perfect pitch, just mentioned that in passing anyway. I think I just get tired/used to songs very quickly for a variety of unknown reasons. ;_;

Thanks all, I'll be sure to check out these recs~! DLing overnight should be perfect c:

because that's (getting tired of songs quickly) not what perfect pitch does.
you clarified it a bit in your second post but your first post made it sound like "i have perfect pitch so songs sound redundant to me."
+ Show Spoiler +
pretty much goes to show most people in this thread have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to music

To be fair, my failure to word what I meant correctly doesn't necessarily mean nobody in this thread has any idea what he/she's talking about with regard to music, not to mention no one's claiming to be a musical scholar either. Perfect pitch and music aren't exactly intricately related and nobody knows that much about perfect pitch anyway. Lighten up a bit, I don't see the need for you to be so mean and/or supercilious unless you have a formal musical training and our evident comparative lack of musical knowledge grinds your gears
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 19 2012 17:52 GMT
#64959
I worded that poorly, it seems. I'm not specifically talking to you, but I guess with how quoting it's easy to see how you'd misunderstand.
anyways, I meant to say it irks me when people make silly conjectures or judgements about music and they're talking out their ass. It's in specific cases though; first thing that comes to mind is people bitching about how a song 'copies' another or it sounds 'exactly the same' when maybe a small portion of the tracks have a similar sequence of chords.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 18:00:19
July 19 2012 17:57 GMT
#64960
On July 20 2012 02:52 andyrau wrote:
I worded that poorly, it seems. I'm not specifically talking to you, but I guess with how quoting it's easy to see how you'd misunderstand.
anyways, I meant to say it irks me when people make silly conjectures or judgements about music and they're talking out their ass. It's in specific cases though; first thing that comes to mind is people bitching about how a song 'copies' another or it sounds 'exactly the same' when maybe a small portion of the tracks have a similar sequence of chords.

Ohhh, so other people making comments for which they're not qualified is unrelated to my post then? I dunno, it felt like you were drawing a connection from my post (and I know you weren't talking specifically to me) to people in KMD overall, so I was wondering what prompted you to make that logical leap, so to speak :o

But yeah your point itself is well-taken. For instance there's the "everything is a remix" series (of which I only watched the first 2 admittedly) that shows how much stuff is borrowed from older works. Also there's the famous I V vi IV chord progression but that doesn't happen as much in kpop. Maybe in ballads but I haven't heard very many korean ballads. Basically a lot of songs are going to sound sort of similar in parts to each other because a lot of new works draw from a bunch of older works, but it doesn't mean that the song is unoriginal or completely steals etc.

Anyway this is probably unfortunately the end of this conversation because I have to go to sleep, and don't want to restart a conversation from what I assume will be anywhere from several to a dozen pages ago ;__; so good night (or good morning/afternoon for you)~!
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