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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 30 2012 14:03 GMT
#55221
Read the sentence after that.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 14:09:55
April 30 2012 14:05 GMT
#55222
That doesn't make it any more sense-making


Oh, and of course 9 is the magic number, pretty hard to deny that, but I don't see why being 3 would be a problem either, as long it's not something drastic like a permanent split up.
iMYoonA
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia462 Posts
April 30 2012 14:06 GMT
#55223
On April 30 2012 22:29 klogg wrote:
http://www.allkpop.com/2012/04/girls-generation-even-just-three-is-enough

How long before sones burn down AKP headquarters?


if sones burn down the headquarters because of this article then they really are the worlds biggest spastics

the article is clearly gleaning for hits, while anyone with a quarter of a brain can easily see the article is actually saying that even with 3 members from snsd, popularity is going through the roof

i read a few of the comments, they were painful. apparently 9 really is a magic number



*yoona | taeyeon | jiyeon | na eun | cho rong | IU | nana | suzy | yejin*
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
April 30 2012 14:07 GMT
#55224
On April 30 2012 20:05 Shindrah wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The music video just released.


Pretty good MV, I think they are capable of so much better. The song could be much better, but it will still go up high on the charts for a few weeks.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 30 2012 14:09 GMT
#55225
On April 30 2012 23:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
That doesn't make it any more sense-making

I didn't like Genie and everything after that was basically an American pop song with lyrics sang in Korean. As soon as SM started buying songs from foreign composers for title tracks all of their songs went downhill.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 14:14:39
April 30 2012 14:11 GMT
#55226
On April 30 2012 23:09 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 23:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
That doesn't make it any more sense-making

I didn't like Genie and everything after that was basically an American pop song with lyrics sang in Korean. As soon as SM started buying songs from foreign composers for title tracks all of their songs went downhill.

Fair enough, but why Twinkle, it was like the worst song on the album :o

On April 30 2012 23:12 betamale wrote:
i still cant get past the fact she doesnt have eyebrows

makes the MV unwatchable since im just focusing on the eyebrows (or lack thereof)

Talk about focusing on the wrong things >.>
betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 14:12:15
April 30 2012 14:12 GMT
#55227
i still cant get past the fact she doesnt have eyebrows

makes the MV unwatchable since im just focusing on the eyebrows (or lack thereof)
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 30 2012 14:19 GMT
#55228
On April 30 2012 23:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 23:09 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 30 2012 23:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
That doesn't make it any more sense-making

I didn't like Genie and everything after that was basically an American pop song with lyrics sang in Korean. As soon as SM started buying songs from foreign composers for title tracks all of their songs went downhill.

Fair enough, but why Twinkle, it was like the worst song on the album :o

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 23:12 betamale wrote:
i still cant get past the fact she doesnt have eyebrows

makes the MV unwatchable since im just focusing on the eyebrows (or lack thereof)

Talk about focusing on the wrong things >.>

Been busy and listening to other shit and haven't gotten around to listening to the rest of the album yet. Although generally I tend to like title tracks of pop/dance tracks more because they tend to be the poppiest/danciest for obvious reasons, and for some reason non title tracks for such groups tend to be more vocally oriented which isn't what I'm looking for from them.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 30 2012 14:23 GMT
#55229
On April 30 2012 23:00 DystopiaX wrote:
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On April 30 2012 22:52 MegaFonzie wrote:
Can someone explain to me what is even wrong with that article? All he does is state facts, which is that TTS got millions of views and exploded on the charts. There isn't a single defaming word in there.

Unless everyone is just sour about the 'controversial' title.

Often enough for fangirls to get mad.

Twinkle is the best song to come out of SNSD since Gee. Mainly cause I hated everything SNSD put out since Gee.


I'm not really a SNSD fan, sure they got some good songs that I play occasionally but this deserves a WUT?!
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 30 2012 14:27 GMT
#55230
Read this page. I explain in more detail although I don't know how to explain anymore than "I didn't like anything SNSD put out since 09".
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
April 30 2012 14:27 GMT
#55231
On April 30 2012 23:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Fair enough, but why Twinkle, it was like the worst song on the album :o


According to you. When will people in here finally realize it's all opinions?
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
Waterhaak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 15:38:20
April 30 2012 14:28 GMT
#55232
I don't really see how that article is that bad. But if you actually want to keep up with Kpop news, my first tip would be to not even go close to AKP. When I was a new fan I used to check it, but it wasn't long before I stopped. The sole purpose of that site is to get hits, and nothing else, and the comments kill your braincells.

As for the MV, fuck, that was amazing. Especially the first scene where they get out of the car. Seohyun is a goddess, she keeps getting prettier every time, it's unreal. I really liked Taeyeon's hair in this MV. Tiffany was gorgeous as always, those winks and eye smiles are killer.

I'm a big fan of story MV's though, but I guess the song isn't really fit for that. I have to say Twinkle is a song that I really like. I liked it in the teasers, and after listening to it a few times it's really good. It's very unique and I'm sure it'll make for a good song on music shows, especially when they get to sing it live, as these three are very strong vocal wise.

Bonus Fany gifs from the MV
+ Show Spoiler +

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Really want a gif of 2:04-2:06 but my Photoshop is being a dick right now.
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There we go.
버섯보다 빛나는
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 30 2012 14:33 GMT
#55233
On April 30 2012 23:27 Kaiwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 23:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Fair enough, but why Twinkle, it was like the worst song on the album :o


According to you. When will people in here finally realize it's all opinions?

Well of course it is, but reading through the responses in here I didn't see a lot of people that honestly thought it was the best one either.
hyszlan
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden100 Posts
April 30 2012 14:43 GMT
#55234
It suddenly became better after seeing the MV, still not the best song from the album though. As someone already mentioned it lacks the flow for people to sing along with. But all three of them looks stunning.
소녀시대♥ / taeyeon & fany nr1 / master z @hyszlan.460 ~
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 30 2012 14:49 GMT
#55235
On April 30 2012 23:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 23:09 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 30 2012 23:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
That doesn't make it any more sense-making

I didn't like Genie and everything after that was basically an American pop song with lyrics sang in Korean. As soon as SM started buying songs from foreign composers for title tracks all of their songs went downhill.

Fair enough, but why Twinkle, it was like the worst song on the album :o


Since apparently I'm going to get more questions about this: (I apologize if this is hard to read but it ended up longer than intended, I'm in class and with most of this done only have about 5 minutes to edit for clarity and close this bitch out)

What I think is the primary reason I disliked RDR, Hoot, and the Boys is because SM bought the tracks from random foreign composers. This (obviously) gives them a very western sound, which I'm not looking for at all. (It doesn't help that those tracks were rejected by American artists, making them in some sense secondhand castoffs). They ended up being generic pop shit that was neither distinctive nor catchy. Twinkle was written by white dudes too but somehow avoided this generic pop trap. I don't know what inspired said white dudes to go on a funk inspired trip but I can't complain. I can't explain my distaste for Oh or Genie other than they had a bubblegum cutesy sound that didn't hit my bubblegum cutesy preferences, just didn't sound good to me.

I like Twinkle because they go for a different sound (funk) and by cutting the other 6 members allowed the subgroup to focus the song in such a way that made it enjoyable- the runs that comprise almost all of the second half of the song would not be possible had this been a full SNSD group song, since having a performance that consists of 8 members doing random dance moves while Taeyeon belts out runs for 1 and a half to 2 minutes makes for an uncompelling performance. Hell, this whole song is something that you couldn't do with all 9, which is why I think that SM finally broke down on their no subgroups for SNSD policy. Actually, SM is doing better as a management company than they have done in awhile. I don't know if they received a demo of the song first or decided to make a subgroup first, but the song and subgroup fit in a way that makes TTS distinctive and Twinkle as a song they can own in a sense that few if any other kpop groups could perform it. Vocally it's hard, harder than most groups can handle. (sidenote: I'm actually skeptical that TTS can sing it. Certainly Taeyeon is capable of her bits but I'd be interested to see if the other 2 handle their verses live). The worst thing now would be for them to perform live and it's mostly lipsynced or extremely loud backtrack. The focus is on the vocals here and having them not on display would undermine what the group is meant to stand for). It gives TTS a chance to be a distinctive group, something that SM has apparently forgotten how to do, as lately all SM group's marketing and concept seem to be "I'm from SM, I'll release this generic pop song and dominate because I'm from SM and SM's got marketing money". TTS has been allowed to establish for themselves a concept and flavor as a vocal-oriented group, and for once this isn't BS marketing on SM's part.

They also went for a more distinctive sound than just the pop/electronic influenced music that is so favored by SM nowadays (Shinee seems to be the only other group avoiding this as they've kept largely the same sound for most of the group's lifespan). I like the soul inspired back-track and melody. It's the kind of slightly weird retro-callback sounds that I like in my kpop (I liked Roly Poly and Shy Boy, guess what those two have in common) and I'm glad they chose this direction, or hell went for a direction at all.

Cutting off short at this point cause my lecture is over and I have to go lol.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 30 2012 15:06 GMT
#55236
you guys made the poor boy type out an essay during class

song is the best single that snsd has put out in a while in my opinion, i don't listen to full snsd albums
the guys in the MV are super cute too, is that exo-k? if so i may have to check them out. literally.
:)
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 15:52:43
April 30 2012 15:23 GMT
#55237
Well it's not like I usually pay attention in class anyway. Glad you care though! lol
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
April 30 2012 15:42 GMT
#55238
Have to agree that this is one of their best songs. And I love it that they incorporated a band sound.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
April 30 2012 16:14 GMT
#55239
to the one who kept mentioning taeyeon doesnt have eye brow. we get it after the first time, its not gonna take away points from her for most of us so maybe you can go find someone else to spazz about. Last i heard hyoyeon ALMOST had a unibrow.
Thailand is my new obsession
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 16:18:32
April 30 2012 16:16 GMT
#55240
Just got out of class, just watched the MV. Brief comment on looks- I've made it clear I'm not really a fan of any of them, so other than to say that they look like they always do it's w/e. Good that the dancing seems to be very light- either none, standing still with arm movements, or light movements during the chorus. It'll be a huge disappointment and hit against the lives if the 2 not doing the runs during the chorus don't sing the backup part- obviously going to be backtrack for part of that, but with the chorus appearing so frequently in the song, the girls (supposedly) being the best vocalists in the group, and the subgroup supposedly focusing so much on vocals, having the chorus entirely be backtrack while the girls do their runs will be hugely disappointing and would undermine the purpose of the subgroup IMO.

edit- @Hyaach it's multiple people and once again, just stop commenting everytime anyone says shit you don't like. It's how we generate 10+ pages of inane arguments. If she works for you, fine say so, but complaining whenever someone states an opinion you don't like is dumb, there's going to be differing opinions in this thread and that's something you're just going to have to deal with.
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