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On March 19 2012 11:14 TuElite wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 10:11 Vorgrim wrote:
I wish their lyrical content wasn't just "this is what rappers sing about, let's do it in Korean and make money". Feels really disingenuous. Add that they are doing all the played out hiphop mannerisms and "uh, yeahs" while singing to a bunch of ahjummas and children and it gets even more sad.
A 5th rate copy of American hiphop with no creativity, but admittedly some technical proficiency. Charlatans. Wow. Who are you talking about here ? Better not be talking about MC Sniper... Korean Hip-Hop (the real shit, not like San E or dok2... Obviously) is on another level. By far better than 80-90% of the current rap being produced in the states. Drunken Tiger/Tiger JK Tasha (T) Yoon Mi rae Epik High and everyone involved with Map The Soul DJ Pe2ny Mc Sniper Outsider The Quiett Verbal Jint Eluphant All of them are pure dopeness and realness and I'll ride for them. Incredible music.
Well, I got bored of rap nearly 20 years ago, so perhaps it's just more interesting to people with a less jaded outlook on the whole genre.
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On March 19 2012 11:14 TuElite wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 10:11 Vorgrim wrote:
I wish their lyrical content wasn't just "this is what rappers sing about, let's do it in Korean and make money". Feels really disingenuous. Add that they are doing all the played out hiphop mannerisms and "uh, yeahs" while singing to a bunch of ahjummas and children and it gets even more sad.
A 5th rate copy of American hiphop with no creativity, but admittedly some technical proficiency. Charlatans. Wow. Who are you talking about here ? Better not be talking about MC Sniper... Korean Hip-Hop (the real shit, not like San E or dok2... Obviously) is on another level. By far better than 80-90% of the current rap being produced in the states. Drunken Tiger/Tiger JK Tasha (T) Yoon Mi rae Epik High and everyone involved with Map The Soul DJ Pe2ny Mc Sniper Outsider The Quiett Verbal Jint Eluphant All of them are pure dopeness and realness and I'll ride for them. Incredible music.
Agree completely. If there was one area of Korean popular music where you CAN'T say that it is 'A 5th rate copy of their American counterpart', it would be hip hop. Either you've been listening to the wrong stuff, or... I don't even know. I really can't understand how someone can take any of the hip hop artists listed by TuElite and more and claim they have no creativity.
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Korean Hip-Hop and Japanese rap as well are so different that the western stuff. So much more original and developed (weird, right?). Korean Hip-Hop feels a lot more worked and engineered to be as close to perfection as possible. It's an art form they take seriously, they don't do it for the money. It's a lot more musical and refined, you can tell from the productions and arrangements.
If you want to give it a shot, I'm sure you won't regret it, check out this thread on another website and just look for my post with Korean Hip-Hop in it. http://joebuddentv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114947
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I'm facepalming unbelievably hard right now.
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On March 19 2012 10:20 Kipsate wrote:Repost but still + Show Spoiler +I am pretty dissapointed that SNSD doesn't choose to promote this, or make more stuff similair to this, this is the first SNSD song in a long while that I really like. And I think it would be good if they promote it, but whatever.
Hmm I must have missed that amidst the recent chaos that has happened here. Thanks for the repost though. I agree with you on the point that this is an enjoyable song unlike others SNSD has had lately. They should definitely promote it.
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I think Let It Rain should go on the English album. That song was one of my favorites off the Japan album.
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On March 19 2012 11:25 Vorgrim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 11:14 TuElite wrote:On March 19 2012 10:11 Vorgrim wrote:
I wish their lyrical content wasn't just "this is what rappers sing about, let's do it in Korean and make money". Feels really disingenuous. Add that they are doing all the played out hiphop mannerisms and "uh, yeahs" while singing to a bunch of ahjummas and children and it gets even more sad.
A 5th rate copy of American hiphop with no creativity, but admittedly some technical proficiency. Charlatans. Wow. Who are you talking about here ? Better not be talking about MC Sniper... Korean Hip-Hop (the real shit, not like San E or dok2... Obviously) is on another level. By far better than 80-90% of the current rap being produced in the states. Drunken Tiger/Tiger JK Tasha (T) Yoon Mi rae Epik High and everyone involved with Map The Soul DJ Pe2ny Mc Sniper Outsider The Quiett Verbal Jint Eluphant All of them are pure dopeness and realness and I'll ride for them. Incredible music. Well, I got bored of rap nearly 20 years ago, so perhaps it's just more interesting to people with a less jaded outlook on the whole genre.
Really now.. Rap was still quite fresh and rapidly evolving in the late 80s early 90s. I would argue that it became staler after 1995. If you were bored with the "golden age" of rap, I would say there's more wrong with you than with the industry.
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On March 19 2012 11:35 TuElite wrote:Korean Hip-Hop and Japanese rap as well are so different that the western stuff. So much more original and developed (weird, right?). Korean Hip-Hop feels a lot more worked and engineered to be as close to perfection as possible. It's an art form they take seriously, they don't do it for the money. It's a lot more musical and refined, you can tell from the productions and arrangements.If you want to give it a shot, I'm sure you won't regret it, check out this thread on another website and just look for my post with Korean Hip-Hop in it. http://joebuddentv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114947
Do you actually believe this stupid shit?
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I think I switched off some time after 36 chambers, so Early 90s. Around 18-19ish years ago. (not vastly different than around 20 years by my reckoning.) Yes, I'm old.
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On March 19 2012 12:27 Vorgrim wrote:
I think I switched off some time after 36 chambers, so Early 90s. Around 18-19ish years ago. (not vastly different than around 20 years by my reckoning.) Yes, I'm old.
I see. But I hope you gave Liquid Swords (1995) a listen. I do agree that after 1995, things have definitely stagnated -- and imo, rap never has really recovered its momentum and freshness ever since.
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On March 19 2012 12:35 TuElite wrote:Well, I did it word it weirdly. I was trying to say that there's a very distinct sound to it and that it feels a lot more musically "refined" to me. Thanks for calling me stupid over that statement... Happy birthday btw + Show Spoiler +I hope your entire family dies in a car crash.
Where are people's manner int his thread, twice already in a week... Ban me I need a break.
He didn't call you stupid. I would explain what he was saying, but that would make me a condescending prick.
Maybe you do need a break if someone disagreeing with something you say results in you wishing their family dies.
Btw, I have liquid swords and some other wu solo stuff. cuban linx, return to 36 chambers, a couple ghost ones. Maybe 20 years ago was a bit over the mark, I just threw the number out there. My point was just that K hiphop doesn't impress me, and neither does western stuff much any more. Not really a hipster thing, I'm just old and jaded.
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tuelite could you post some nicole before you get banned? :D
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On March 19 2012 12:25 Refused. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 11:35 TuElite wrote:Korean Hip-Hop and Japanese rap as well are so different that the western stuff. So much more original and developed (weird, right?). Korean Hip-Hop feels a lot more worked and engineered to be as close to perfection as possible. It's an art form they take seriously, they don't do it for the money. It's a lot more musical and refined, you can tell from the productions and arrangements.If you want to give it a shot, I'm sure you won't regret it, check out this thread on another website and just look for my post with Korean Hip-Hop in it. http://joebuddentv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114947 Do you actually believe this stupid shit?
Probably, especially when you have to deal with crap like Soulja Boy today.
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On March 19 2012 12:35 TuElite wrote:Well, I did it word it weirdly. I was trying to say that there's a very distinct sound to it and that it feels a lot more musically "refined" to me. Thanks for calling me stupid over that statement... Happy birthday by the way + Show Spoiler +I hope your entire family dies in a car crash and slowly burn as the fuel tanks leak and catch on fire.
Where are people's manner in this thread, twice already in a week... Ban me I need a break.
How childish, although I don't expect anything less from a guy who does nothing but spend his time fantasizing over his favorite "idol".
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On March 19 2012 12:35 TuElite wrote:Well, I did it word it weirdly. I was trying to say that there's a very distinct sound to it and that it feels a lot more musically "refined" to me. Thanks for calling me stupid over that statement... Happy birthday by the way + Show Spoiler +I hope your entire family dies in a car crash and slowly burn as the fuel tanks leak and catch on fire.
Where are people's manner in this thread, twice already in a week... Ban me I need a break.
I guarantee that you know very little about real hip-hop, the garbage you hear on the radio is no indication of the state of american rap/hip-hop. Also you don't even know korean, how is it more refined if you don't know what they are saying lol.
+ Show Spoiler +I don't hate the mainstream stuff though I enjoy da bubblegum stuff sometimes nomsayin
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On March 19 2012 12:35 TuElite wrote:
I hope your entire family dies in a car crash and slowly burn as the fuel tanks leak and catch on fire.
Where are people's manner in this thread, twice already in a week...
I can't even wrap my brain around how someone calling your statement stupid calls for wishing his family an agonizing death. You then ask where people's manners are? What the fuck?
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lol the idiocy in this thread is over 9000.
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Yep... well seems he was offended and Refused... like seriously? Looking at your profile, you barely post and you posted in KMD once. And all you offered was that his statement was complete shit.
some Taeyeon :D
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Yeah, he totally fell for the troll bait, that's too bad.
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