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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 01 2012 21:06 GMT
#49881
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Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 21:51:22
March 01 2012 21:22 GMT
#49882
On March 02 2012 05:47 nosliw wrote:
so... who is this J. rabbit group?

[image loading]
They are just an indie band someone introduced me to a few pages back. I think the singer is cute, and they make good music. Listened to their album on the bus to and from college today, and it was sweet.

Oh and they have 3 covers on their album. Abba and tracks from the sound of music and the little mermaid. Yes, the little mermaid.
Sc2zero7
Profile Joined February 2012
United States574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 23:20:12
March 01 2012 21:42 GMT
#49883
There will never be a reverse situation where western talent agencies scout for talent in asia because if your white or non asian and you wanted to be in the entertainment industry, you would not want to be living in asia to try to start your career. Plus, the U.S. has like easily 10x the population of korea, so new talent would be way easier to spot in U.S. I feel like I was trolled into making this post but w/e, it seems fairly obvious.

Ailee is hyped because she has one of the better voices in kpop atm, even if it sounds similar to western style voices.

On March 02 2012 07:11 Vorgrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 06:42 Sc2zero7 wrote:
There will never be a reverse situation where western talent agencies scout for talent in asia because if your white or non asian and you wanted to be in the entertainment industry, you would not want to be living in asia to try to start your career. Plus, the U.S. has like easily 10x the population of korea, so new talent would be way easier to spot in U.S. I feel like I was trolled into making this post but w/e, it seems fairly obvious.

Ailee is hyped because she has one of the better voices in kpop atm, even if it sounds similar to western style voices.

This has to be the world's worst ever rebuttal. Let's not argue, not only for the sake of the thread, but because you should refrain from embarrassing yourself like that too often.

I wasn't trolling, you just didn't understand what I was saying.


EDIT: lol? What was so hard to understand? You said it would be hilarious if a U.S. talent agency scouted non asians in asia. I just said it was obvious why foreign talent agencies wouldn't be in asia to scout talent.

On March 02 2012 07:15 MooMooMugi wrote:

Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 06:42 Sc2zero7 wrote:
There will never be a reverse situation where western talent agencies scout for talent in asia because if your white or non asian and you wanted to be in the entertainment industry, you would not want to be living in asia to try to start your career. Plus, the U.S. has like easily 10x the population of korea, so new talent would be way easier to spot in U.S. I feel like I was trolled into making this post but w/e, it seems fairly obvious.

Ailee is hyped because she has one of the better voices in kpop atm, even if it sounds similar to western style voices.

10x the population of korea, so new talent would be way easier to spot in U.S
This statement makes zero sense. So if you live in a bigger country with may more people its EASIER to get scouted? lol...


EDIT 2: My point was saying that the talent pool in U.S. is larger, therefore, talent would be easier to find in U.S. Not that hard to comprehend yes? Why would a non asian talent agency scout for talent in a non english speaking country? There's tons of English speaking talent that are unscouted.


EDIT 3: Since people seem to be confused, my point was that the U.S. is easier to scout ENGLISH speaking talent because he said it would be hilarious if non asian talent agencies went to asia to scout non asian talent.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 01 2012 22:08 GMT
#49884
As a correction for my earlier statement that KARA made 200k in one year, I believe that was what they were owed in album sales only for 2010. So that doesn't include endorsements or whatnot. Of course, that figure was put out by the 3 girls who wanted to break off their contracts, and so it may not be entirely accurate, but it's a good baseline anyway. Top girl groups make bank (KARA maybe more so than anyone else, since Japan is worth a lot more than Korea and they're easily the most successful there).
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
March 01 2012 22:11 GMT
#49885
On March 02 2012 06:42 Sc2zero7 wrote:
There will never be a reverse situation where western talent agencies scout for talent in asia because if your white or non asian and you wanted to be in the entertainment industry, you would not want to be living in asia to try to start your career. Plus, the U.S. has like easily 10x the population of korea, so new talent would be way easier to spot in U.S. I feel like I was trolled into making this post but w/e, it seems fairly obvious.

Ailee is hyped because she has one of the better voices in kpop atm, even if it sounds similar to western style voices.

This has to be the world's worst ever rebuttal. Let's not argue, not only for the sake of the thread, but because you should refrain from embarrassing yourself like that too often.

I wasn't trolling, you just didn't understand what I was saying.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 01 2012 22:15 GMT
#49886

On March 02 2012 06:42 Sc2zero7 wrote:
There will never be a reverse situation where western talent agencies scout for talent in asia because if your white or non asian and you wanted to be in the entertainment industry, you would not want to be living in asia to try to start your career. Plus, the U.S. has like easily 10x the population of korea, so new talent would be way easier to spot in U.S. I feel like I was trolled into making this post but w/e, it seems fairly obvious.

Ailee is hyped because she has one of the better voices in kpop atm, even if it sounds similar to western style voices.

10x the population of korea, so new talent would be way easier to spot in U.S
This statement makes zero sense. So if you live in a bigger country with may more people its EASIER to get scouted? lol...
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IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
March 01 2012 22:37 GMT
#49887
I think he meant to say that more talent is likely to come from a country with higher population. Definitely not easier to spot talent with more people.
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
March 01 2012 22:57 GMT
#49888
http://www.youtube.com/user/aileemusic?feature=watch

Ailee's channel from before she went korean. I agree she looked better, more natural before.
Always smile~
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
March 01 2012 23:33 GMT
#49889
On March 02 2012 07:08 DystopiaX wrote:
As a correction for my earlier statement that KARA made 200k in one year, I believe that was what they were owed in album sales only for 2010. So that doesn't include endorsements or whatnot. Of course, that figure was put out by the 3 girls who wanted to break off their contracts, and so it may not be entirely accurate, but it's a good baseline anyway. Top girl groups make bank (KARA maybe more so than anyone else, since Japan is worth a lot more than Korea and they're easily the most successful there).

That 200k in 1 year ( i think its 300k iirc) is a proofless claim made by DSP to counteract what the 3 girls claimed (no proof) that they did not get as much as they were supposed to (3k a month).

The complete absence of transparency suggest that no one (including top groups) actually earns alot.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
March 01 2012 23:39 GMT
#49890
On March 02 2012 07:08 DystopiaX wrote:
As a correction for my earlier statement that KARA made 200k in one year, I believe that was what they were owed in album sales only for 2010. So that doesn't include endorsements or whatnot. Of course, that figure was put out by the 3 girls who wanted to break off their contracts, and so it may not be entirely accurate, but it's a good baseline anyway. Top girl groups make bank (KARA maybe more so than anyone else, since Japan is worth a lot more than Korea and they're easily the most successful there).


SNSD makes way more than KARA, I heard something like 1.5m/year for Yoona and 1.2m/year for Seohyun which includes CF and endorsements
bofranx
Profile Joined April 2011
United States88 Posts
March 01 2012 23:39 GMT
#49891
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/big-bangs-t-o-p-purchases-a-3-million-usd-villa

ya TOP def not pullin in mad moneyz
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
March 01 2012 23:41 GMT
#49892
ya idols r def poor.

http://www.allkpop.com/2012/01/which-idols-have-the-fastest-luxury-cars
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 23:44:56
March 01 2012 23:42 GMT
#49893
On March 02 2012 08:33 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 07:08 DystopiaX wrote:
As a correction for my earlier statement that KARA made 200k in one year, I believe that was what they were owed in album sales only for 2010. So that doesn't include endorsements or whatnot. Of course, that figure was put out by the 3 girls who wanted to break off their contracts, and so it may not be entirely accurate, but it's a good baseline anyway. Top girl groups make bank (KARA maybe more so than anyone else, since Japan is worth a lot more than Korea and they're easily the most successful there).

That 200k in 1 year ( i think its 300k iirc) is a proofless claim made by DSP to counteract what the 3 girls claimed (no proof) that they did not get as much as they were supposed to (3k a month).

The complete absence of transparency suggest that no one (including top groups) actually earns alot.


I cannot judge for lesser idol groups sistar, secret, rainbow or whatever but to say that topgroups, say BigBang, 2ne1, SNSD, TVXQ/JYJ don't earn a lot is pretty ignorant when I read articles like: "JYJ buys ceo luxury car" or "top acquires 3million dollar building" etc on a frequent basis.

Or Dara from 2ne1 drives a Range Rover 15 months after their debut (during 2ne1 tv season 2) and has enough money to buy her brother a brand new mini ( jiyoungs car)

Whenever idols say that they get 50$ allowance per week on variety shows I don't know if that's true...

edit: lol while I was typing two people posted two articles which I also included in my post... :D
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
March 01 2012 23:50 GMT
#49894
On March 02 2012 07:37 SeungHwan wrote:
I think he meant to say that more talent is likely to come from a country with higher population. Definitely not easier to spot talent with more people.

AFAIK korea doesnt find talent, they create them.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
March 01 2012 23:54 GMT
#49895
On March 02 2012 08:50 B.I.G. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 07:37 SeungHwan wrote:
I think he meant to say that more talent is likely to come from a country with higher population. Definitely not easier to spot talent with more people.

AFAIK korea doesnt find talent, they create them.

It's a bit of both it seems like.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
March 01 2012 23:54 GMT
#49896
On March 02 2012 08:50 B.I.G. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 07:37 SeungHwan wrote:
I think he meant to say that more talent is likely to come from a country with higher population. Definitely not easier to spot talent with more people.

AFAIK korea doesnt find talent, they create them.


its both, they go outside to look for talent ... fx, snsd, 2pm, missA, u-kiss etc. etc. all have foreign members and Korean-american members they were spotted outside Korea.
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 00:02:08
March 02 2012 00:00 GMT
#49897
On March 02 2012 08:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 08:33 Cubu wrote:
On March 02 2012 07:08 DystopiaX wrote:
As a correction for my earlier statement that KARA made 200k in one year, I believe that was what they were owed in album sales only for 2010. So that doesn't include endorsements or whatnot. Of course, that figure was put out by the 3 girls who wanted to break off their contracts, and so it may not be entirely accurate, but it's a good baseline anyway. Top girl groups make bank (KARA maybe more so than anyone else, since Japan is worth a lot more than Korea and they're easily the most successful there).

That 200k in 1 year ( i think its 300k iirc) is a proofless claim made by DSP to counteract what the 3 girls claimed (no proof) that they did not get as much as they were supposed to (3k a month).

The complete absence of transparency suggest that no one (including top groups) actually earns alot.


I cannot judge for lesser idol groups sistar, secret, rainbow or whatever but to say that topgroups, say BigBang, 2ne1, SNSD, TVXQ/JYJ don't earn a lot is pretty ignorant when I read articles like: "JYJ buys ceo luxury car" or "top acquires 3million dollar building" etc on a frequent basis.

Or Dara from 2ne1 drives a Range Rover 15 months after their debut (during 2ne1 tv season 2) and has enough money to buy her brother a brand new mini ( jiyoungs car)

Whenever idols say that they get 50$ allowance per week on variety shows I don't know if that's true...

edit: lol while I was typing two people posted two articles which I also included in my post... :D


They could have saved up, have family who have abit to spare etc. Their personal asset is hardly an indicator of their salaries.

It's kind of similar to esports (not saying idols earn as much as pros) where the pros hide their salary because they don't earn alot and revealing it would cause abit of trouble.
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 00:15:55
March 02 2012 00:14 GMT
#49898
On March 02 2012 09:00 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 08:42 AsnSensation wrote:
On March 02 2012 08:33 Cubu wrote:
On March 02 2012 07:08 DystopiaX wrote:
As a correction for my earlier statement that KARA made 200k in one year, I believe that was what they were owed in album sales only for 2010. So that doesn't include endorsements or whatnot. Of course, that figure was put out by the 3 girls who wanted to break off their contracts, and so it may not be entirely accurate, but it's a good baseline anyway. Top girl groups make bank (KARA maybe more so than anyone else, since Japan is worth a lot more than Korea and they're easily the most successful there).

That 200k in 1 year ( i think its 300k iirc) is a proofless claim made by DSP to counteract what the 3 girls claimed (no proof) that they did not get as much as they were supposed to (3k a month).

The complete absence of transparency suggest that no one (including top groups) actually earns alot.


I cannot judge for lesser idol groups sistar, secret, rainbow or whatever but to say that topgroups, say BigBang, 2ne1, SNSD, TVXQ/JYJ don't earn a lot is pretty ignorant when I read articles like: "JYJ buys ceo luxury car" or "top acquires 3million dollar building" etc on a frequent basis.

Or Dara from 2ne1 drives a Range Rover 15 months after their debut (during 2ne1 tv season 2) and has enough money to buy her brother a brand new mini ( jiyoungs car)

Whenever idols say that they get 50$ allowance per week on variety shows I don't know if that's true...

edit: lol while I was typing two people posted two articles which I also included in my post... :D


They could have saved up, have family who have abit to spare etc. Their personal asset is hardly an indicator of their salaries.

It's kind of similar to esports (not saying idols earn as much as pros) where the pros hide their salary because they don't earn alot and revealing it would cause abit of trouble.


Saving up three million dollars sounds ridiculous if their salaries are as low as people suggest. Even saving up $400k (for a luxury/exotic car) on a $100k salary is stupid retarded, and a lot of people say top idols make less than that.
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 02 2012 00:18 GMT
#49899
On March 02 2012 08:54 jax1492 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 08:50 B.I.G. wrote:
On March 02 2012 07:37 SeungHwan wrote:
I think he meant to say that more talent is likely to come from a country with higher population. Definitely not easier to spot talent with more people.

AFAIK korea doesnt find talent, they create them.


its both, they go outside to look for talent ... fx, snsd, 2pm, missA, u-kiss etc. etc. all have foreign members and Korean-american members they were spotted outside Korea.

They don't necessarily need to, but having an english speaking member helps out alot.
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 00:28:27
March 02 2012 00:28 GMT
#49900
On March 02 2012 09:14 Ym1r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 09:00 Cubu wrote:
On March 02 2012 08:42 AsnSensation wrote:
On March 02 2012 08:33 Cubu wrote:
On March 02 2012 07:08 DystopiaX wrote:
As a correction for my earlier statement that KARA made 200k in one year, I believe that was what they were owed in album sales only for 2010. So that doesn't include endorsements or whatnot. Of course, that figure was put out by the 3 girls who wanted to break off their contracts, and so it may not be entirely accurate, but it's a good baseline anyway. Top girl groups make bank (KARA maybe more so than anyone else, since Japan is worth a lot more than Korea and they're easily the most successful there).

That 200k in 1 year ( i think its 300k iirc) is a proofless claim made by DSP to counteract what the 3 girls claimed (no proof) that they did not get as much as they were supposed to (3k a month).

The complete absence of transparency suggest that no one (including top groups) actually earns alot.


I cannot judge for lesser idol groups sistar, secret, rainbow or whatever but to say that topgroups, say BigBang, 2ne1, SNSD, TVXQ/JYJ don't earn a lot is pretty ignorant when I read articles like: "JYJ buys ceo luxury car" or "top acquires 3million dollar building" etc on a frequent basis.

Or Dara from 2ne1 drives a Range Rover 15 months after their debut (during 2ne1 tv season 2) and has enough money to buy her brother a brand new mini ( jiyoungs car)

Whenever idols say that they get 50$ allowance per week on variety shows I don't know if that's true...

edit: lol while I was typing two people posted two articles which I also included in my post... :D


They could have saved up, have family who have abit to spare etc. Their personal asset is hardly an indicator of their salaries.

It's kind of similar to esports (not saying idols earn as much as pros) where the pros hide their salary because they don't earn alot and revealing it would cause abit of trouble.


Saving up three million dollars sounds ridiculous if their salaries are as low as people suggest. Even saving up $400k (for a luxury/exotic car) on a $100k salary is stupid retarded, and a lot of people say top idols make less than that.


All im saying is it's really hard to quantify their salary based on what's out there and whatever the amount it maybe, it is not really something you would be happy about.
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