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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
December 22 2011 05:15 GMT
#42321
I never got why people felt "obligated."
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 05:34:59
December 22 2011 05:34 GMT
#42322
On December 22 2011 14:13 W2 wrote:
Cry Cry is a great song and very catchy, it does sound very much like Britney spears but who cares, both songs are good

Here are the parts that are similar. The notes/progression for the most part are of the same style, I just find this example to be the most obvious.





Imho both songs (and Crazy because of you & womanizer) just have very "obvious & dominant" beats.
Just listen to a random pop (kpop or otherwise) song and count 1-4 (or 1-8) in your head. It's the same structure repeated . i.e. Gee & The Boys have the same base structure (as the earlier mentioned songs) - just a bit more complicated to hear it, since there's a lot of offbeats. Mirotic is another good example (and easier to hear).
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
December 22 2011 05:45 GMT
#42323
On December 22 2011 12:25 Antoine wrote:
I don't know why people are acting like comparing t-ara to britney spears is a bad thing... sure, she was personally crazy but she has some really good songs and being compared to them isn't an insult.

i say call in the music expert. roffles.
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Trizzen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway74 Posts
December 22 2011 06:02 GMT
#42324
I don't hear much similarities and it's only plagiarism if it's a blatant rippof(vocal, lyrical and instrumental progression) a whole song. Which Korean entertainment industry became better at not doing the past decade. :o
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TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 06:22:07
December 22 2011 06:21 GMT
#42325
Should we have polls and voting for "Album/Song/Video and Dance Of The Year" ?

Poll: Should this thread have "Album/Single/Video/Dance Of The Year'' Pol

No (41)
 
53%

Yes (37)
 
47%

78 total votes

Your vote: Should this thread have "Album/Single/Video/Dance Of The Year'' Pol

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



I can set it up during the week-end if the thread thinks it's a good idea.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 22 2011 06:28 GMT
#42326
It can only cause drama, so bring it on!

And thanks for the IU interview Kimoleon!
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Ixas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
930 Posts
December 22 2011 06:32 GMT
#42327
no.
More of a popularity contest to see which fan base is bigger and popular != *of the year
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Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
December 22 2011 06:38 GMT
#42328
I vote Fiction/Beast for all of them.
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
December 22 2011 06:44 GMT
#42329
On December 22 2011 15:32 Ixas wrote:
no.
More of a popularity contest to see which fan base is bigger and popular != *of the year


I agree, that's generally what ends up happening. However, I personally hold this thread to higher standards, I think the people of this thread are smart and critical enough to overlook their fandom and vote for quality. Maybe I'm wrong tho. I probably am lol...
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Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
December 22 2011 06:47 GMT
#42330
end of the year awards only if AG runs them, please.




On December 22 2011 12:05 PatouPower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 11:34 Moonwrath wrote:
Cry Cry = Oops I Did It Again. And T-ara had another song that was literally the exact same as a Britney Spears song, but I can't remember the name right now. It was blatant copying though.


Probably "I go crazy because of you"? Can't tell what britney song it is but it totally sounds like britney spears to me.



you don't say?
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
December 22 2011 07:00 GMT
#42331
On December 22 2011 15:44 TuElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 15:32 Ixas wrote:
no.
More of a popularity contest to see which fan base is bigger and popular != *of the year


I agree, that's generally what ends up happening. However, I personally hold this thread to higher standards, I think the people of this thread are smart and critical enough to overlook their fandom and vote for quality. Maybe I'm wrong tho. I probably am lol...

You must have missed the last few pages.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 22 2011 07:01 GMT
#42332
On December 22 2011 14:45 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 12:25 Antoine wrote:
I don't know why people are acting like comparing t-ara to britney spears is a bad thing... sure, she was personally crazy but she has some really good songs and being compared to them isn't an insult.

i say call in the music expert. roffles.

Shit sounds alike, but who gives a fuck? As long as it's not blatantly ripped 100%, then why are people complaining. There are a ton of songs from all over the world over so many decades. Of course you're gonna run into some similarities here and there.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 07:09:06
December 22 2011 07:05 GMT
#42333
Damn I missed some bullshit going on in here...
as for the T-ara thing, I think that in some songs they sound familiar but to claim plagiarism like some people are is ridiculous.

edit- 1. It's amusing that T-ara can both be accused of having no coherent musical style at all, yet have (mostly the same) people claim that multiple songs of theirs rip off an artist that does stick to one musical style. Can't have both.
2. more of an observation, but I find it amusing that Moonwrath can speak with complete knowledge about a topic (T-ara songs, names of Rainbow members), and then when the trolling starts claims he doesn't know them at all.
Rainbow subgroup was chosen to promote less popular members, and of those they chose the best singers. Which is why the 3 chosen make complete sense.

On December 22 2011 15:21 TuElite wrote:
Should we have polls and voting for "Album/Song/Video and Dance Of The Year" ?

Poll: Should this thread have "Album/Single/Video/Dance Of The Year'' Pol

No (41)
 
53%

Yes (37)
 
47%

78 total votes

Your vote: Should this thread have "Album/Single/Video/Dance Of The Year'' Pol

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



I can set it up during the week-end if the thread thinks it's a good idea.

No that's fucking dumb. There's already enough flamebaiting as it is and all a poll would serve to do is reaffirm who the most popular artists on the thread are- SNSD would most likely win, followed by IU/T-ara. Polls of the year are stupid anyway and, as you do TuElite, I hold this forum to higher standards than such hit-grubbing trash.
Skysec
Profile Joined August 2010
United States164 Posts
December 22 2011 07:19 GMT
#42334
Having a poll when it comes to pop music is a pretty bad idea. All you're going to do is find out which group has the biggest lurking fan base reading this thread.

People won't be voting based on merit and will most certainly just end up voting for their favorite group, regardless of what crap they put out. It'll be like the MAMA, a popularity contest.

Plus its just setting the stage for flamewars.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
December 22 2011 07:29 GMT
#42335
I don't think I would be able to decide on a best song of the year.... Can't we just make our top 5 of the year or something? Mine would be (in no order):

Don't let Your Eyes Wander
Roly Poly
Bubble Pop
0330
Fiction

I think.... Making a top 5 is still really hard and I'm probably forgetting some that i like more but w/e. Also, SNSD is my favorite group but they didn't have the best year so yeah, not all fans blindly pick their favorite.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
December 22 2011 07:30 GMT
#42336
On December 22 2011 16:29 DEN1ED wrote:
I don't think I would be able to decide on a best song of the year.... Can't we just make our top 5 of the year or something? Mine would be (in no order):

Don't let Your Eyes Wander
Roly Poly
Bubble Pop
0330
Fiction

I think.... Making a top 5 is still really hard and I'm probably forgetting some that i like more but w/e. Also, SNSD is my favorite group but they didn't have the best year so yeah, not all fans blindly pick their favorite.


Seeing that list makes me feel that even a top 10 for me would be hard.
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silverfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States304 Posts
December 22 2011 07:30 GMT
#42337
On December 22 2011 16:05 DystopiaX wrote:
Rainbow subgroup was chosen to promote less popular members, and of those they chose the best singers. Which is why the 3 chosen make complete sense.

Seungah is so underrated it's criminal :X
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 22 2011 07:31 GMT
#42338
Agreed...she's not my favorite in the group (most people here know who is) but she's pretty good, and definitely deserves some attention at least.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 22 2011 07:48 GMT
#42339
On December 22 2011 16:30 silverfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 16:05 DystopiaX wrote:
Rainbow subgroup was chosen to promote less popular members, and of those they chose the best singers. Which is why the 3 chosen make complete sense.

Seungah is so underrated it's criminal :X

You like big chins?
God Bless
SGxANyTiME
Profile Joined August 2011
United States26 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 08:00:17
December 22 2011 07:53 GMT
#42340
Is it just me or was The Boys terrible?

I actually don't get it, and the first 1min of the music video was...awkward. Would like to give those that liked it the opportunity to explain why I am wrong.
Stealin' ur fruit like MKP
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