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sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 12:19:58
November 30 2011 06:22 GMT
#39721
On November 30 2011 04:28 Roffles wrote:
I like how you guys are surprised about who wins.

It's pretty clear that no attendance = no win.


*Except for IU, CN Blue and Big Bang


And yeah SNSD winning the best artist.they did more stuff this years compared to any other artist.

edit.
oh pagetop, have some T-ara throwing stuffs

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and some old school soshi

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Put quote here for readability
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
November 30 2011 06:26 GMT
#39722


New SNSD CF... I guess... Oh my god that was awkward...
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
November 30 2011 06:37 GMT
#39723
On November 30 2011 14:32 Craton wrote:
hyperbole much


of course, but i hope people get the main point.
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
November 30 2011 06:42 GMT
#39724
I did miss Hyun Joong because it was boring and Suzy was the only good thing in it. But I guess I'll edit it in.

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Love is more fun than hate.
Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
November 30 2011 06:51 GMT
#39725
On November 30 2011 09:36 Kipsate wrote:
Still think Jang Jae In's ost is underrated and should have been the one to be nominated for Athena

but money/pans talk.

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good call. pretty powerful song imo
Real action, my dream.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
November 30 2011 07:04 GMT
#39726
On November 30 2011 15:16 seiferoth10 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98009&currentpage=1978#39550
Courtesy of Seditary

Edit: I think Kim Hyun Joong's is missing:
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Yea that suzy bit was super random. Is there something I missed?
Super cute though, <3 suzy
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 30 2011 08:27 GMT
#39727
On November 30 2011 14:35 DystopiaX wrote:
Yeah I could name tons of korean singers better than IU


in the idol industry? I could probably name a total of maybe 7 or 8 and I'm not sure if half of them even qualify as idols.
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shin yong jae
kim jin ho
lee haeri
younha
changmin
seulong
kim yeon ji

I'm not even sure if younha, syj, kjh, or kyj even count as idols in the strictest sense.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
November 30 2011 08:35 GMT
#39728
On November 30 2011 17:27 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 14:35 DystopiaX wrote:
Yeah I could name tons of korean singers better than IU


in the idol industry? I could probably name a total of maybe 7 or 8 and I'm not sure if half of them even qualify as idols.
+ Show Spoiler +
shin yong jae
kim jin ho
lee haeri
younha
changmin
seulong
kim yeon ji

I'm not even sure if younha, syj, kjh, or kyj even count as idols in the strictest sense.


haeri isn't an idol either lol. But you really think changmin and seulong stand up to IU? That's really debatable, and even harder to debate cross gender when you're talking about range, tone, pitch, and intensity.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
November 30 2011 08:38 GMT
#39729
Whoa whoa whoa, 2am's Changmin destroys IU. Go watch early eps of Immortal Song 2.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 09:06:24
November 30 2011 09:05 GMT
#39730
On November 30 2011 17:35 MethodSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 17:27 andyrau wrote:
On November 30 2011 14:35 DystopiaX wrote:
Yeah I could name tons of korean singers better than IU


in the idol industry? I could probably name a total of maybe 7 or 8 and I'm not sure if half of them even qualify as idols.
+ Show Spoiler +
shin yong jae
kim jin ho
lee haeri
younha
changmin
seulong
kim yeon ji

I'm not even sure if younha, syj, kjh, or kyj even count as idols in the strictest sense.


haeri isn't an idol either lol. But you really think changmin and seulong stand up to IU? That's really debatable, and even harder to debate cross gender when you're talking about range, tone, pitch, and intensity.

Davichi is widely considered to be an idol group, therefore Haeri is an idol.

edit- and when he said "in the industry" I interpreted it to mean the music industry cause I don't really consider kpop/kidols to be an industry of their own.

and IMO anyone in 2AM>IU.
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
November 30 2011 09:11 GMT
#39731
On November 30 2011 18:05 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 17:35 MethodSC wrote:
On November 30 2011 17:27 andyrau wrote:
On November 30 2011 14:35 DystopiaX wrote:
Yeah I could name tons of korean singers better than IU


in the idol industry? I could probably name a total of maybe 7 or 8 and I'm not sure if half of them even qualify as idols.
+ Show Spoiler +
shin yong jae
kim jin ho
lee haeri
younha
changmin
seulong
kim yeon ji

I'm not even sure if younha, syj, kjh, or kyj even count as idols in the strictest sense.


haeri isn't an idol either lol. But you really think changmin and seulong stand up to IU? That's really debatable, and even harder to debate cross gender when you're talking about range, tone, pitch, and intensity.

Davichi is widely considered to be an idol group, therefore Haeri is an idol.

edit- and when he said "in the industry" I interpreted it to mean the music industry cause I don't really consider kpop/kidols to be an industry of their own.

and IMO anyone in 2AM>IU.


Did they become an idol group recently? I can even remember just a year ago they weren't recognized as idols, but as a singing duet. Of course I meant the idol industry, since it is it's own thing. Obviously if we were talking about korean music industry in general there are 100's of singers better, and in the top 10 there are 0 idol singers. It's just a different caliber of singing and a completely different audience.

To go as far as to say all of 2AM>IU is ridiculous. Jo Kwon and Jinwoon aren't notable singers at all, and Seulong isn't that great either. Changmin is close, that's why I say it's debatable.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 09:18:05
November 30 2011 09:15 GMT
#39732
not jokwon, and definitely not jinwoon.
even changmin is kinda debatable imo. seulong is the only one that stands out to me.

On November 30 2011 18:15 Cubu wrote:
so are those really pushup bras? Because im starting to have second thoughts (snsd).

ofc they are hahaha
have you seen boobs before?
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
November 30 2011 09:15 GMT
#39733
so are those really pushup bras? Because im starting to have second thoughts (snsd
).
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 09:18:36
November 30 2011 09:17 GMT
#39734
@Method singing is all subjective, but to say half of a ballad idol group isn't that good at singing seems to be...just wrong to me idk.

As for IU, I would say that she's above average; she's got good range (high notes in Good day) and her voice is pleasant it's just missing...oomph for lack of a better word. It's in tune, her voice sounds good, but there's not much more to it other than that. There are main vocalists in idol groups that I think are better.
But better and best are all subjective anyway, so w/e.

@Cubu unless you know of a way to magically lift and grow chest sizes, yeah. It's pretty obvious.
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
November 30 2011 09:21 GMT
#39735
On November 29 2011 23:58 Diizzy wrote:


i still like group


Amazing. They sound just like African-American singers. I was surprised.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
November 30 2011 09:27 GMT
#39736
On November 30 2011 17:27 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 14:35 DystopiaX wrote:
Yeah I could name tons of korean singers better than IU


in the idol industry? I could probably name a total of maybe 7 or 8 and I'm not sure if half of them even qualify as idols.
+ Show Spoiler +
shin yong jae
kim jin ho
lee haeri
younha
changmin
seulong
kim yeon ji

I'm not even sure if younha, syj, kjh, or kyj even count as idols in the strictest sense.


IU's Immortal Song 2 performances were really pitchy and mediocre in comparison to some of the other idols. She's good when she's singing song within her range, but pretty average when it comes to singing with emotion.

here's the best idol singing performance ever:

+ Show Spoiler +
Path
Profile Joined September 2010
United States145 Posts
November 30 2011 09:27 GMT
#39737
I agree with Dystopia, music is an artform and art is definitely subjective. Each singer has his or her own way of expressing. Some may like it and some may not. Kinda like Picasso and Monet. Both great artists but different styles, different preferences.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
November 30 2011 09:59 GMT
#39738
IU voice has no thickness if you get what i mean, it also lacks in its own unique appeal which is none.
Thailand is my new obsession
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
November 30 2011 11:28 GMT
#39739
On November 30 2011 18:17 DystopiaX wrote:

unless you know of a way to magically lift and grow chest sizes, yeah. It's pretty obvious.


what about breast implants?
gwg
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland92 Posts
November 30 2011 12:04 GMT
#39740
On November 30 2011 20:28 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 18:17 DystopiaX wrote:

unless you know of a way to magically lift and grow chest sizes, yeah. It's pretty obvious.


what about breast implants?


She's just using a push-up.

However, I would love to see the public reaction if Jessica got breast implants!

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