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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 21 2011 08:28 GMT
#38781
#Kpopflash on Quakenet for unrestricted discussion!
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
November 21 2011 08:29 GMT
#38782
On November 21 2011 17:18 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 17:11 zeru wrote:
Will Roffles ever learn? Kentor is kind of a hater too but i guess he stays within acceptable bounds.

and yeah imo hyosung is hottest in any group atm. so perfect.

and about the pjy vid from what i noticed i'd say people are in general accepting it was her but dont really care that much about it. i wouldnt watch it myself because i guess its pretty much would be CP?

What, he is just giving his honest opinions of dal shabet. Oh well.


As has been stated before, it's not just about WHAT you say but HOW you say it as well. He could have expressed that opinion in many ways, but chose to go with the wrong one and should have known it.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 08:35:58
November 21 2011 08:35 GMT
#38783
On November 21 2011 17:12 UrASofty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 16:54 andyrau wrote:
the people convinced that it was her will just tell you something like CCM threatened to sue and so the whole thing blew over quickly.
the people not convinced will tell you "oh we couldn't see her face" or "that mole wasn't enough to safely conclude it was actually jiyeon."

pretty pointless to speculate at this point.
she was 13/14 at the time of the alleged video. If you're convinced it was her after watching it, realize that you just finished some mild child pornography. food for thought~


since its pretty clear your a big t-ara fan what do you think?


I watched it, didn't care. The video itself was pretty long so I skimmed through most of it.
It was pretty tame you couldn't see much of anything except her clothed/semi-revealed torso anyway.
+ Show Spoiler +
you couldn't see her face, a nipple was shown, and I think she pushed her pants down so some pubes were shown.


As for my opinion on whether it was her or not, I honestly don't know. The entire incident was covered up pretty quickly, which seems mildly suspicious at first, but she IS the face of T-ara, so I'm not surprised CCM's PR/legal team came out swinging. The marks near her armpit seem pretty convincing as well, but as the key piece of evidence for identification, a mole in a near-identical location isn't much to go off of.
Like most things involving kpop+netizens, shit gets blown far out of proportion. A big "whatever" is my opinion on it.

Anyhow, the other scandal with the b-list actresses is far more entertaining and noteworthy.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
KroplaBeskidu
Profile Joined June 2011
1093 Posts
November 21 2011 08:36 GMT
#38784
On November 21 2011 17:16 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 17:05 KroplaBeskidu wrote:
On November 21 2011 02:57 Roffles wrote:
Dal Shabet is probably the worst girl group out there right now. 0 talent, and a bunch of fuckin ugly ass plastic bitches.

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


hahahahaha

But it really sucks to be banned for this, who cares about Dal Shabet? Around here I mean? What's the problem with saying they're plastic and ugly, there's not even a reaction? unless the problem is saying them dirty words out loud, seems we're going for the whole family entertainment thing itt now lol.

Anyway if he said that about SNSD then I get it but Dal Shabet? Come on

Because mods don't ban based on the popularity of the subject? I know you like SNSD more but that doesn't mean everyone that trolls you deserves a ban, that would be stupid and only you, Maekju, Tippany, and Moonwrath would be here with a bunch of 1-time posters discussing how much you love SNSD. And then you move back to SSF cause it's the same thing anyway.


dude I think this is the biggest insult I took online in years but I don't really blame you or anything I don't pay much attention to who posts what around here either

just to explain in case you don't get it the SNSD part wasn't serious, my point is Roffles comes in here to discuss Korean Music, he just happens to have higher standards than most of us, but if this thread is full of "I love that video" "this pic is sexy" "Jiyeon eyes omg" "HyosuNGHNNNNNGGGG" etc, then what's the problem with "ugly ass bitch fucking plastic"? If we don't like something we're supposed to just keep quiet right? I was about to post this and finish off with yeah then why don't we apply to move this thread over to SSF while we're at it. But then I saw your post and that line just lost a bit of momentum, props man



On November 21 2011 17:29 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 17:18 Kentor wrote:
On November 21 2011 17:11 zeru wrote:
Will Roffles ever learn? Kentor is kind of a hater too but i guess he stays within acceptable bounds.

and yeah imo hyosung is hottest in any group atm. so perfect.

and about the pjy vid from what i noticed i'd say people are in general accepting it was her but dont really care that much about it. i wouldnt watch it myself because i guess its pretty much would be CP?

What, he is just giving his honest opinions of dal shabet. Oh well.


As has been stated before, it's not just about WHAT you say but HOW you say it as well. He could have expressed that opinion in many ways, but chose to go with the wrong one and should have known it.



So cool how you know better than him how to express his opinion. The words he uses are there for a reason, everybody understands what he means.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
November 21 2011 08:42 GMT
#38785
On November 21 2011 17:35 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 17:12 UrASofty wrote:
On November 21 2011 16:54 andyrau wrote:
the people convinced that it was her will just tell you something like CCM threatened to sue and so the whole thing blew over quickly.
the people not convinced will tell you "oh we couldn't see her face" or "that mole wasn't enough to safely conclude it was actually jiyeon."

pretty pointless to speculate at this point.
she was 13/14 at the time of the alleged video. If you're convinced it was her after watching it, realize that you just finished some mild child pornography. food for thought~


since its pretty clear your a big t-ara fan what do you think?


I watched it, didn't care. The video itself was pretty long so I skimmed through most of it.
It was pretty tame you couldn't see much of anything except her clothed/semi-revealed torso anyway.
+ Show Spoiler +
you couldn't see her face, a nipple was shown, and I think she pushed her pants down so some pubes were shown.


As for my opinion on whether it was her or not, I honestly don't know. The entire incident was covered up pretty quickly, which seems mildly suspicious at first, but she IS the face of T-ara, so I'm not surprised CCM's PR/legal team came out swinging. The marks near her armpit seem pretty convincing as well, but as the key piece of evidence for identification, a mole in a near-identical location isn't much to go off of.
Like most things involving kpop+netizens, shit gets blown far out of proportion. A big "whatever" is my opinion on it.

Anyhow, the other scandal with the b-list actresses is far more entertaining and noteworthy.


Do you have a link or more info? Sound interesting.
Skysec
Profile Joined August 2010
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 08:47:04
November 21 2011 08:45 GMT
#38786
On a seperate note, what are your favorite songs on the recently released albums that aren't title songs? Or maybe even songs that are being promoted right now but because the artist isn't really popular it doesn't get discussed here often.

I'm really liking "Stop!" on the WG album and "Reminiscence" on the Lessang album.
I haven't made up my mind about the T-ara album and I haven't really been listening to the SNSD album, plus it was talked about a lot when it came out.

Both of these have been mentioned here before but I feel like there are more nice songs out there, especially since the less popular albums don't get talked about much. I don't really watch through all the performances on the music shows so I'm probably missing out on a few gems.

WG
+ Show Spoiler +

Lessang
+ Show Spoiler +
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
November 21 2011 08:51 GMT
#38787
The fact that this thread is getting trolled to death is indicative of just how trashy K-Pop is.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 08:59:50
November 21 2011 08:55 GMT
#38788
On November 21 2011 17:36 KroplaBeskidu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 17:16 DystopiaX wrote:
On November 21 2011 17:05 KroplaBeskidu wrote:
On November 21 2011 02:57 Roffles wrote:
Dal Shabet is probably the worst girl group out there right now. 0 talent, and a bunch of fuckin ugly ass plastic bitches.

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


hahahahaha

But it really sucks to be banned for this, who cares about Dal Shabet? Around here I mean? What's the problem with saying they're plastic and ugly, there's not even a reaction? unless the problem is saying them dirty words out loud, seems we're going for the whole family entertainment thing itt now lol.

Anyway if he said that about SNSD then I get it but Dal Shabet? Come on

Because mods don't ban based on the popularity of the subject? I know you like SNSD more but that doesn't mean everyone that trolls you deserves a ban, that would be stupid and only you, Maekju, Tippany, and Moonwrath would be here with a bunch of 1-time posters discussing how much you love SNSD. And then you move back to SSF cause it's the same thing anyway.


dude I think this is the biggest insult I took online in years but I don't really blame you or anything I don't pay much attention to who posts what around here either

just to explain in case you don't get it the SNSD part wasn't serious, my point is Roffles comes in here to discuss Korean Music, he just happens to have higher standards than most of us, but if this thread is full of "I love that video" "this pic is sexy" "Jiyeon eyes omg" "HyosuNGHNNNNNGGGG" etc, then what's the problem with "ugly ass bitch fucking plastic"? If we don't like something we're supposed to just keep quiet right? I was about to post this and finish off with yeah then why don't we apply to move this thread over to SSF while we're at it. But then I saw your post and that line just lost a bit of momentum, props man



Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 17:29 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
On November 21 2011 17:18 Kentor wrote:
On November 21 2011 17:11 zeru wrote:
Will Roffles ever learn? Kentor is kind of a hater too but i guess he stays within acceptable bounds.

and yeah imo hyosung is hottest in any group atm. so perfect.

and about the pjy vid from what i noticed i'd say people are in general accepting it was her but dont really care that much about it. i wouldnt watch it myself because i guess its pretty much would be CP?

What, he is just giving his honest opinions of dal shabet. Oh well.


As has been stated before, it's not just about WHAT you say but HOW you say it as well. He could have expressed that opinion in many ways, but chose to go with the wrong one and should have known it.



So cool how you know better than him how to express his opinion. The words he uses are there for a reason, everybody understands what he means.


Where do I say I know better than him how to express his opinion? This isn't about better, this is about him staying within the forum guidelines, particularly those that apply specifically to this thread. There's nothing wrong with people expressing negative opinions in this thread, it happens all the time as anyone can plainly see. The problem is when people express those opinions in a way that is unnecessarily vulgar or offensive.

Roffles is free to say that he thinks Dal Shabet is ugly and/or that they're "plastic". What he's not allowed to do in this thread is say it while tossing out various unnecessary vulgarities. There's a difference between saying something like "I don't get why people think ____ is so attractive, I think she's ugly" and something like "______ is an ugly ass bitch, and anyone who believes otherwise can go fuck themselves". Both are basically saying the same thing, but one is unnecessarily vulgar and offensive, and those traits do nothing in terms of generating discussion or expressing the opinion other than to shit up the thread and try to incite similar comments in response. If you can't figure out the difference and the policy against that kind of posting, then you might want to consider posting elsewhere where the people who run the site allow it.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 09:02:27
November 21 2011 09:01 GMT
#38789
I like watermelons.



Mr.Taxi better than everything in this thread u awready know
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MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
November 21 2011 09:06 GMT
#38790
Kpopflash has been dead for quite a few months. Didn't think anyone even remembered it lol....
KroplaBeskidu
Profile Joined June 2011
1093 Posts
November 21 2011 09:07 GMT
#38791
Yeah yeah XaI)CyRiC okay you got me I was playing dumb. I just sometimes wish TL wasn't so victorian regarding vulgarities, and it's good you posted this because with just stuff like

The criticism and negative commentary about idols is starting to build up again and I'm giving a general warning to everyone to keep it in check.


it wouldn't be too hard to get the wrong idea. We can't be blamed if kpop sucks right.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 21 2011 09:10 GMT
#38792
On November 21 2011 18:06 MethodSC wrote:
Kpopflash has been dead for quite a few months. Didn't think anyone even remembered it lol....


lol..kpf irc never died bruh
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MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
November 21 2011 09:12 GMT
#38793
On November 21 2011 18:10 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 18:06 MethodSC wrote:
Kpopflash has been dead for quite a few months. Didn't think anyone even remembered it lol....


lol..kpf irc never died bruh


didn't even know it existed in the first place. heh
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 09:15:01
November 21 2011 09:13 GMT
#38794
On November 21 2011 18:07 KroplaBeskidu wrote:
Yeah yeah XaI)CyRiC okay you got me I was playing dumb. I just sometimes wish TL wasn't so victorian regarding vulgarities, and it's good you posted this because with just stuff like
Show nested quote +

The criticism and negative commentary about idols is starting to build up again and I'm giving a general warning to everyone to keep it in check.


it wouldn't be too hard to get the wrong idea. We can't be blamed if kpop sucks right.


This thread wasn't strict at all for a long time. If anything, the moderation policy was way too lenient. Changes were made when the quality of the posts dropped so low that it actually caught the attention of some of the more senior members of the staff, who were very tempted to just delete the thread. Some of us felt that the thread could and should be preserved and that the quality of the posting could be improved by more active moderation and stricter standards.

That's now happened multiple times, and we're now forced to resort to much stricter standards. In the past, Roffles would have been allowed to go off on his obscenity-laced flamefests without any reprisal. The nature of this thread has forced us to change that, and you're seeing the results. If you all really want more leeway, then you can earn it by improving the posting in the thread for an extended period of time.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 09:38:14
November 21 2011 09:19 GMT
#38795
On November 21 2011 17:45 Skysec wrote:
On a seperate note, what are your favorite songs on the recently released albums that aren't title songs? Or maybe even songs that are being promoted right now but because the artist isn't really popular it doesn't get discussed here often.


Stop! and Sweet Dreams are my favorites from Wonderworld.
Goodbye, OK is my favorite track from Black Eyes.
TRICK is literally the only track I like from The Boys.
바래 was pretty good from Moving in Secret, but the rest was pretty forgettable.
불편한 진실 and Hot Shot were pretty good in Sixth Sense.
Asura Balbalta was an awesome album overall, but 회상 ft. 백지영, 격산타우, and 독기 all really stuck out for me.
어베일러블 ft. Lady Jane and 원숭이띠 미혼남 ft. ZICO of Block.B were the only tracks I liked on Go Easy (in addition to the title).
The only decent track on Tablo's First Solo Album was 출처 (Scratch by DJ Tukutz), I kinda liked 집 ft. 이소라 because the hook was amazing.

I think that's all from recent releases.

In addition, Huh Gak's albums are worth a listen or two. I've also been listening to Dj Clazzi's single on repeat for the past day or two.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
November 21 2011 09:21 GMT
#38796


been blasting that for the last hour or so.

lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 21 2011 10:32 GMT
#38797
thats bad post-shirt lift ban


here da REAL rainboji
You can't fight the feeling.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 14:38:08
November 21 2011 11:14 GMT
#38798
On November 21 2011 18:06 MethodSC wrote:
Kpopflash has been dead for quite a few months. Didn't think anyone even remembered it lol....

I remember being sad that it was dead before I could screenshot being banned as a malicious user.

This thread wasn't strict at all for a long time. If anything, the moderation policy was way too lenient.

It still is. The things that actually need to be moderated aren't. Spoilering pictures and media needs to be a rule (that actually gets enforced), not a matter of common sense. Reposting the same thing 6+ times in <2 week periods need to actually be moderated, but that rule has only ever been enforced maybe twice and even then because it was reposts of Gee. White-knighting every time someone makes the smallest slight against someone needs to be forbidden. Posting pictures that function as memes (looking at you gif of Jessica saying "there goes the last fuck I gave" need to get the same treatment as actually posting a meme -- a ban.

I rest my case:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98009&currentpage=1941#38811
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98009&currentpage=1941#38813
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51599 Posts
November 21 2011 11:17 GMT
#38799
i honestly cant tell the difference between a pink or dal shabet, they are that generically bad.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17741 Posts
November 21 2011 11:26 GMT
#38800
Difference in songs or members?
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