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iMYoonA
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia462 Posts
November 17 2011 11:37 GMT
#38321
Wow, I visited in the morning and suddenly I return to find an explosion of exciting posts!

Truly why any discussion of SNSD in this thread is better than in ssf, because you get to hear both sides and some juicy conflict

*yoona | taeyeon | jiyeon | na eun | cho rong | IU | nana | suzy | yejin*
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
November 17 2011 11:53 GMT
#38322
I hope that the thieves that stole my car radio + K-pop CD's will enjoy the new Cry Cry album...

Perf was good, still not sold on the cane or Hyomin with this hair style. I just don't like it
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
November 17 2011 12:28 GMT
#38323
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AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
November 17 2011 13:02 GMT
#38324
For their comeback they should have cha seong won in it lol
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 13:27:06
November 17 2011 13:10 GMT
#38325
On November 17 2011 19:10 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Gotta say, the live performance wasn't as impressive as I had expected/hoped.. maybe it's the camera, but I didn't like their outfits for the performance either.. hm.


(I skipped the ballad version because I don't listen to ballads, so I'll just comment on the actual version)

I find myself agreeing with that. Weirdly enough, I can't wrap my head around the why. Maybe it was the camera work (the static camera in the training vid definitely brought out the best of the choreo). But it definitely lacked the energy that I expected. Don't really know why...

And those outfits. They went from "not really going well with the performance" (Kate Beckinsale in Underworld anyone?) to being surprisingly inappropriate. Netizens uproar to be expected imo. Poor Hyomin, she deserves better.
Soyeon is gorgeous though. I'm happy about her getting that immense amount of screen and vocal time.
Always smile~
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
November 17 2011 13:27 GMT
#38326
On November 17 2011 09:09 Silidons wrote:
ok this is a shot in the dark, but i remember this music video from watching the GSL probably a year ago. it had to be in 2010 because i quit in jan 2011.

it was an all girl band, and the music video took place in a bar. i believe it had scenes with a girl sitting at a table waiting for her boyfriend and she was on her phone. i can't really remember much but it i believe it had 3 women in it who were actually singing (the girl at the table was just the character portrayed in the video and did not sing), and they were aligned much like what you would see with 3 women in a jazz band or whatever (triangle formation) I THINK. not 100% sure on their formation but it reminded me of like a oldies type video when they were showing the women singing.

can anyone tell me what song that was? i remember i enjoyed it.

anyone know >_<
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 17 2011 13:35 GMT
#38327
On November 17 2011 22:10 Spekulatius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 19:10 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Gotta say, the live performance wasn't as impressive as I had expected/hoped.. maybe it's the camera, but I didn't like their outfits for the performance either.. hm.


(I skipped the ballad version because I don't listen to ballads, so I'll just comment on the actual version)

I find myself agreeing with that. Weirdly enough, I can't wrap my head around the why. Maybe it was the camera work (the static camera in the training vid definitely brought out the best of the choreo). But it definitely lacked the energy that I expected. Don't really know why...

And those outfits. They went from "not really going well with the performance" (Kate Beckinsale in Underworld anyone?) to being surprisingly inappropriate. Netizens uproar to be expected imo. Poor Hyomin, she deserves better.
Soyeon is gorgeous though. I'm happy about her getting that immense amount of screen and vocal time.


The camera work sucks and the lack of energy is mainly due to the fact that they're actually singing/trying to sing vs dance practice where they are focusing 100% on the choreography.
Ixas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 13:42:33
November 17 2011 13:40 GMT
#38328
On November 17 2011 22:27 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 09:09 Silidons wrote:
ok this is a shot in the dark, but i remember this music video from watching the GSL probably a year ago. it had to be in 2010 because i quit in jan 2011.

it was an all girl band, and the music video took place in a bar. i believe it had scenes with a girl sitting at a table waiting for her boyfriend and she was on her phone. i can't really remember much but it i believe it had 3 women in it who were actually singing (the girl at the table was just the character portrayed in the video and did not sing), and they were aligned much like what you would see with 3 women in a jazz band or whatever (triangle formation) I THINK. not 100% sure on their formation but it reminded me of like a oldies type video when they were showing the women singing.

can anyone tell me what song that was? i remember i enjoyed it.

anyone know >_<

edit: wrong, fuck tat
Ixas.parkjiyeon.net
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
November 17 2011 13:50 GMT
#38329
Well FML I just woke up and I had 14pages to catch up with...

Glad at least Youtube works :D Yay.

2ne1 is good, I just listen to their music I like, screw their style, not my style.

Ignoring haters is a good skill to have. Sunny > all <3
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
November 17 2011 13:50 GMT
#38330
For some reason I want to say it's a Girl's Day or T-ARA song...
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
November 17 2011 13:55 GMT
#38331
On November 17 2011 22:35 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 22:10 Spekulatius wrote:
On November 17 2011 19:10 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Gotta say, the live performance wasn't as impressive as I had expected/hoped.. maybe it's the camera, but I didn't like their outfits for the performance either.. hm.


(I skipped the ballad version because I don't listen to ballads, so I'll just comment on the actual version)

I find myself agreeing with that. Weirdly enough, I can't wrap my head around the why. Maybe it was the camera work (the static camera in the training vid definitely brought out the best of the choreo). But it definitely lacked the energy that I expected. Don't really know why...

And those outfits. They went from "not really going well with the performance" (Kate Beckinsale in Underworld anyone?) to being surprisingly inappropriate. Netizens uproar to be expected imo. Poor Hyomin, she deserves better.
Soyeon is gorgeous though. I'm happy about her getting that immense amount of screen and vocal time.


The camera work sucks and the lack of energy is mainly due to the fact that they're actually singing/trying to sing vs dance practice where they are focusing 100% on the choreography.


Also, because of the camera work, you miss the whole group dynamic energy from wide shots.
And the camera path was way too repetetive ("Oh we installed a rail which allows us to fly the camera from top-left to middle - let's zoom in on Hyomin during that process" - and this 10 times during the perf )



On November 17 2011 22:27 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 09:09 Silidons wrote:
ok this is a shot in the dark, but i remember this music video from watching the GSL probably a year ago. it had to be in 2010 because i quit in jan 2011.

it was an all girl band, and the music video took place in a bar. i believe it had scenes with a girl sitting at a table waiting for her boyfriend and she was on her phone. i can't really remember much but it i believe it had 3 women in it who were actually singing (the girl at the table was just the character portrayed in the video and did not sing), and they were aligned much like what you would see with 3 women in a jazz band or whatever (triangle formation) I THINK. not 100% sure on their formation but it reminded me of like a oldies type video when they were showing the women singing.

can anyone tell me what song that was? i remember i enjoyed it.

anyone know >_<


I know what you're talking about. I dont know the song.
I can add that the girl got angry when her bf came and threw away the phone.
Also - afaik - it's a 2 person group and 1 featuring. And yes it was during the Open Season GSLs.
chiwawa
Profile Joined April 2011
330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 14:08:43
November 17 2011 13:55 GMT
#38332
On November 17 2011 22:10 Spekulatius wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2011 19:10 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Gotta say, the live performance wasn't as impressive as I had expected/hoped.. maybe it's the camera, but I didn't like their outfits for the performance either.. hm.


(I skipped the ballad version because I don't listen to ballads, so I'll just comment on the actual version)

I find myself agreeing with that. Weirdly enough, I can't wrap my head around the why. Maybe it was the camera work (the static camera in the training vid definitely brought out the best of the choreo). But it definitely lacked the energy that I expected. Don't really know why...

And those outfits. They went from "not really going well with the performance" (Kate Beckinsale in Underworld anyone?) to being surprisingly inappropriate. Netizens uproar to be expected imo. Poor Hyomin, she deserves better.
Soyeon is gorgeous though. I'm happy about her getting that immense amount of screen and vocal time.

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Well if you're wearing this you're kind of asking for an uproar. I was quite shocked as well when I saw it, feels like the group should wear something more similar to what Soyeon and Qri wore.

+ Show Spoiler [Soyeon] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Qri] +
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Seems like Yubin dropped their award during the encore stage, i'm gonna guess that Sunye will be slightly upset about that. On another note, Sunye looked amazing during GNO even though she only wore loose white dress shirt.
+ Show Spoiler [WG and a broken trophy] +
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On November 17 2011 22:50 Sableyeah wrote:
Ignoring haters is a good skill to have. Sunny > all <3

+ Show Spoiler [Sunny] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Sica] +
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Just because I can and she looked good

About that, you sure you wanna stick to Sunny > *?

Edit:
+ Show Spoiler [Yuri] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Taeyeon] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Sooyoung] +
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Sooyoung looked surprisingly good today.
시카
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 14:07:13
November 17 2011 14:04 GMT
#38333
Short hair does not work with that performance and dress.

This thread went crazy overnight.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Ixas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
930 Posts
November 17 2011 14:17 GMT
#38334
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Ixas thinks this is the only good sunny he's seen.
Cant quite point out what, just not bad
Ixas.parkjiyeon.net
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
November 17 2011 14:29 GMT
#38335
On November 17 2011 23:17 Ixas wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Ixas thinks this is the only good sunny he's seen.
Cant quite point out what, just not bad

Must be the cheeks?
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
November 17 2011 14:51 GMT
#38336
On November 17 2011 22:55 Maekju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 22:50 Sableyeah wrote:
Ignoring haters is a good skill to have. Sunny > all <3

+ Show Spoiler [Sunny] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Sica] +
[image loading]
Just because I can and she looked good

About that, you sure you wanna stick to Sunny > *?


Lemme bite your bait... by simply quoting this.

Nais pic Ixas, thank you.

And wow Hyomin... that's too much indeed... The moment I saw their dance rehearsal vid without actual singing, I knew it'd be hard for them to dance and sing on stage properly. They need at least the same amount of time to practice singing and dancing to a new song. Multitasking is still a hard thing to do, we SC players should know all about it o.o
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
November 17 2011 14:52 GMT
#38337
On November 17 2011 22:27 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 09:09 Silidons wrote:
ok this is a shot in the dark, but i remember this music video from watching the GSL probably a year ago. it had to be in 2010 because i quit in jan 2011.

it was an all girl band, and the music video took place in a bar. i believe it had scenes with a girl sitting at a table waiting for her boyfriend and she was on her phone. i can't really remember much but it i believe it had 3 women in it who were actually singing (the girl at the table was just the character portrayed in the video and did not sing), and they were aligned much like what you would see with 3 women in a jazz band or whatever (triangle formation) I THINK. not 100% sure on their formation but it reminded me of like a oldies type video when they were showing the women singing.

can anyone tell me what song that was? i remember i enjoyed it.

anyone know >_<


Ok looked some more, think I found it:
+ Show Spoiler +
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
November 17 2011 14:58 GMT
#38338
The ballad version of Cry Cry had me laughing so hard. The song is really good, but the different sized pedestals for each member was absolutely hysterical. Boram's was so tall!

The normal version....sigh, I had high hopes. I like the song, and there are parts of the choreo that are really cool, like the hand twirl into the eye swipe in the chorus, but the whole performance just kind of fell flat. Too many people on stage, and the choreo is actually fairly lackluster and boring with little movement once you actually look at it. I hope their next performance is better, because I was kind of disappointed. The vocals seemed a bit off in both performances for me as well.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 15:41:46
November 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#38339
On November 17 2011 09:59 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:49 Moonwrath wrote:
This is probably a repost from ages ago, but I never really knew TVXQ as a 5 member group since I got into Kpop right when HoMin came back with KYHD. This video gave me chills the first time I saw it. TVXQ was something magnificent as a 5 member group. They're awesome as 2, but daaaaaaamn as 5 it's incredible.


On November 17 2011 07:54 jlim wrote:
i'm pretty sure this qualifies you as a kpop noob

Well yeah, I've only known about it for a year lol. I saw that video a while ago and have since become somewhat of a Cassie after seeing more of their stuff and seeing HoMin in NYC.


That's not even the most impressive DBSG performance. This will blow your mind, no other kpop band can replicate this.



The harmonies, the passion, the soul, just magnificent.



Oh holy shit, like 20 pages in one day already? I guess this has already been discussed but TVXQ, in both 2man and 5 man groups is the only male group i can stand, they are pretty fucking amazing :E

Well, i like GD&TOP too but im not sure that counts.

*Edit* Still 10 pages away, but also would like to add that kim jong kook is awesome aswell, get chills every time i watch that performance with gary.
Mavkar
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany592 Posts
November 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#38340
A agree with too many people on stage. But they need the backup dancer guys for some parts of the choreo like the sliding and the going under their arms and stuff. And these parts + the hand micro are the good parts of the choreo.
Also the outfits, as stated, are in cases really revealing. But the jackets coming off is part of the choreo too, so they have to have a large mantle and something sexy beneath it, otherwise the throwing off seems lame.
I give Cry Cry live a by-pass for the first performance and hope they can step up the game and improve it further, otherwise I don't see T-ara winning against Wondergirls.
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