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DoctorHelvetica
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DystopiaX
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On August 26 2011 20:01 Hemula wrote: So this is the first time I'm watching Super Junior and I thought it sounded good until I looked for the lyrics. oh shit~ FML The song doesn't really suit that type of MV. I think they should have done a more traditional MV with a dance performance instead of a montage approach. The beat and energy of the song is wasted on the slowmo scenes that isn't in sync with the song at all. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On August 27 2011 00:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: does anyone know of korean experimental, psychedelic, shoegaze, punk, anything this band is pretty decent but totally outshined by japanese/american/canadian shoegaze bands Donawhale is an indie poprock/post-rock/shoegaze band and really quite good | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On August 27 2011 03:51 XaI)CyRiC wrote: The song doesn't really suit that type of MV. I think they should have done a more traditional MV with a dance performance instead of a montage approach. The beat and energy of the song is wasted on the slowmo scenes that isn't in sync with the song at all. Yeah, guessing they didn't have time to make an actual MV, but needed something for their followup promotions so they threw this together. | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On August 27 2011 03:51 XaI)CyRiC wrote: The song doesn't really suit that type of MV. I think they should have done a more traditional MV with a dance performance instead of a montage approach. The beat and energy of the song is wasted on the slowmo scenes that isn't in sync with the song at all. I don't think the MV is for the song at all. Its more to make all the ELFs remember the past since SJ is pretty much done for a few years now. | ||
Kipsate
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+ Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SopAEDDb0LM&feature=player_embedded Favorite song is #3 and #5, this is all so goddamn good though. Hope theyl promote #3 eventually. | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On August 27 2011 07:06 Kipsate wrote: Davichi's minialbum was 'leaked''(GG CCM) Favorite song is #3 and #5, this is all so goddamn good though. Hope theyl promote #3 eventually. lawl CCM. I agree with you on track 5. | ||
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TuElite
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 Thank you Seditary for always organizing everything together in one awesome post! | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On August 27 2011 07:25 TuElite wrote: Disappointed in G.NA's comeback. Thank you Seditary for always organizing everything together in one awesome post! The song or her performance? Wasn't expecting much from the perf after coming back from Japan and the Cube concert the day before. And no worries. | ||
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Hellraiser
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On August 26 2011 18:15 XaI)CyRiC wrote: I think we need to steer away from the direction this thread has been heading with regards to the troll discussion. It's fine to talk about the relative attractiveness/unattractiveness of Kpop idols, but there's no need to be so harsh, crude or derogatory when doing so. Feel free to share your opinion, but let's try to do so in a semi-respectable manner. There's no need to describe them as "repulsive", "fuckin ugly", etc. I don't care how "fun" it may be to some, there's no place for that on TL. Consider this to be a thread-wide warning. Really? Roffles's posted the best post in God knows how many pages and you warn him for it? This modding repulses more people from this thread than pictures of trolls. | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
On August 26 2011 18:15 XaI)CyRiC wrote: I think we need to steer away from the direction this thread has been heading with regards to the troll discussion. It's fine to talk about the relative attractiveness/unattractiveness of Kpop idols, but there's no need to be so harsh, crude or derogatory when doing so. Feel free to share your opinion, but let's try to do so in a semi-respectable manner. There's no need to describe them as "repulsive", "fuckin ugly", etc. I don't care how "fun" it may be to some, there's no place for that on TL. Consider this to be a thread-wide warning. I've been wanting to say this for a long time and this is perfect timing: The thing is, outside of TL, even if someone says that HyoYeon is an "ugly ho", yeah it's wrong and demeaning. However the general fanbase has every right to be as critical about celebrities in general because the popularity of a celebrity is heavily affected by the fans. It's as if Korean Idols (being specific) signed an unwritten contract in that people can think of them any way they want, whether it be right or wrong (as long as the thoughts aren't about affecting them harshly on a deep personal level, physical or emotional). For example, I THINK its perfectly fair to call HyunAh a cheap slut based upon how she's portrayed through a bulk of her promotional activities. Come on, pelvic thrusting on stage aired on national TV is pretty slutty. However in real life she might be someone completely opposite. But that criticism is fair based upon the image she projects. Thinking of giving the bat to HaRa because she looks like a bitch vs. actually intending to giving the bat to HaRa because you intend to flat out hurt her are different because the first is due to what she projects as a celebrity while the second is blatantly disrespecting her as a human being. What's not fair is banding together to sign suicide petitions for Jay Park because he was having a hard time adjusting to his surroundings. It's not fair to grill Shin SeKyung or Park MinYoung for having a relationship with JongHyun / Lee MinHo and the other way around because the imagination of being a couple with that celebrity is ruined. If I say that Sunny is an annoying bitch because of her artificial aegyo, it's classless sure. But I have every right to think that because I'm the one being entertained, I'm the one that will potentially buy the product because I think they're worthy of my money, time, and thoughts being devoted to be entertained, and basically I'm one of many people who get to determine if they are worth my time paying attention to, negatively or positively. Celebrities are there to entertain, but they don't determine how people end up being entertained by them. Thing is, out of all people I think you should have a pretty good understanding of that. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
I prefer nanashin's rather humorous approach to the whole troll subject. [edit]I'm amused that hypothetical example was actually said, since I had skipped that whole page of trolling. | ||
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Moonwrath
United States9568 Posts
On August 27 2011 08:42 MorningMusume11 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2011 18:15 XaI)CyRiC wrote: I think we need to steer away from the direction this thread has been heading with regards to the troll discussion. It's fine to talk about the relative attractiveness/unattractiveness of Kpop idols, but there's no need to be so harsh, crude or derogatory when doing so. Feel free to share your opinion, but let's try to do so in a semi-respectable manner. There's no need to describe them as "repulsive", "fuckin ugly", etc. I don't care how "fun" it may be to some, there's no place for that on TL. Consider this to be a thread-wide warning. I've been wanting to say this for a long time and this is perfect timing: The thing is, outside of TL, even if someone says that HyoYeon is an "ugly ho", yeah it's wrong and demeaning. However the general fanbase has every right to be as critical about celebrities in general because the popularity of a celebrity is heavily affected by the fans. It's as if Korean Idols (being specific) signed an unwritten contract in that people can think of them any way they want, whether it be right or wrong (as long as the thoughts aren't about affecting them harshly on a deep personal level, physical or emotional). For example, I THINK its perfectly fair to call HyunAh a cheap slut based upon how she's portrayed through a bulk of her promotional activities. Come on, pelvic thrusting on stage aired on national TV is pretty slutty. However in real life she might be someone completely opposite. But that criticism is fair based upon the image she projects. Thinking of giving the bat to HaRa because she looks like a bitch vs. actually intending to giving the bat to HaRa because you intend to flat out hurt her are different because the first is due to what she projects as a celebrity while the second is blatantly disrespecting her as a human being. What's not fair is banding together to sign suicide petitions for Jay Park because he was having a hard time adjusting to his surroundings. It's not fair to grill Shin SeKyung or Park MinYoung for having a relationship with JongHyun / Lee MinHo and the other way around because the imagination of being a couple with that celebrity is ruined. If I say that Sunny is an annoying bitch because of her artificial aegyo, it's classless sure. But I have every right to think that because I'm the one being entertained, I'm the one that will potentially buy the product because I think they're worthy of my money, time, and thoughts being devoted to be entertained, and basically I'm one of many people who get to determine if they are worth my time paying attention to, negatively or positively. Celebrities are there to entertain, but they don't determine how people end up being entertained by them. Thing is, out of all people I think you should have a pretty good understanding of that. "Keep the expression hate of music individuals/groups to a minimal level" It's right there on the top of the page. How is it hard to understand? | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On August 27 2011 08:25 Seditary wrote: The song or her performance? Wasn't expecting much from the perf after coming back from Japan and the Cube concert the day before. And no worries. Don't like either of the songs really. Banana makes me cringe cause the english is so damn cheesy and Top Girl just isn't a good song. | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
On August 27 2011 08:48 Moonwrath wrote: "Keep the expression hate of music individuals/groups to a minimal level" It's right there on the top of the page. How is it hard to understand? It's not like I was criticizing Cyric's actions to warn people... especially if you consider the words that are bolded. I mean seriously, you miss the entire point of my post just because of what you read on the top of a page... oh man, it's so hopeless posting an actual thought on this thread. Since you're so good on following instructions, to reach the bolded part of my post 1. Click on "Show Nested Quote" 2. Then Click on "Show Spoiler" | ||
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Moonwrath
United States9568 Posts
On August 27 2011 08:53 MorningMusume11 wrote: It's not like I was criticizing Cyric's actions to warn people... especially if you consider the words that are bolded. I mean seriously, you miss the entire point of my post just because of what you read on the top of a page... oh man, it's so hopeless posting something an actual thought on this thread. Since you're so good on following instructions, to reach the bolded part of my post 1. Click on "Show Nested Quote" 2. Then Click on "Show Spoiler" I'm not talking about the moderation. There are obviously rules for the thread, clearly posted up top. Calling people "annoying bitch" and "cheap slut" is just uncalled for. It just doesn't serve a purpose other than being an asshole about it. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Minimal level =/ none. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On August 27 2011 09:04 Kipsate wrote: i'd say annoying bitch and cheap slut may be overdoing it, but since image is like 90% of kpop I think it is fair that we can criticize what they do or how they look like. Minimal level =/ none. Agree, which is why I think the troll discussions are fine but "cheap slut" and bitch, etc., are not. | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
On August 27 2011 08:59 Moonwrath wrote: I'm not talking about the moderation. There are obviously rules for the thread, clearly posted up top. Calling people "annoying bitch" and "cheap slut" is just uncalled for. True, except when I did I even mention a significant reference about thread rules in my post? Isn't it obvious that I'm illustrating my own opinion about fan behavior in general, not how this thread is being moderated? If you're trolling by playing dumb then you're only hurting yourself because you're just portraying yourself as someone that can't even recognize the true points of what people are actually trying to convey. Seriously give up now about mentioning rules because it's not helping matters one bit, especially if you're some white knight trying to protect two of the people I used as examples for your favorite K-Pop group. | ||
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