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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 26 2011 18:46 GMT
#31381
has any non-kpop korean music ever been discussed in this thread
RIP Aaliyah
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 26 2011 18:51 GMT
#31382
Yes, whenever someone like you pops in and asks "Is there more to korean music than kpop and idols?" Then someone says yes, posts a whole bunch of youtube links and/or lists artists they like, someone else will say "wow these are great!", and then the idol discussion continues.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
August 26 2011 18:51 GMT
#31383
On August 26 2011 20:01 Hemula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 19:43 Seditary wrote:

So this is the first time I'm watching Super Junior and I thought it sounded good until I looked for the lyrics. oh shit~ FML


The song doesn't really suit that type of MV. I think they should have done a more traditional MV with a dance performance instead of a montage approach. The beat and energy of the song is wasted on the slowmo scenes that isn't in sync with the song at all.
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
August 26 2011 18:54 GMT
#31384
On August 27 2011 00:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
does anyone know of korean experimental, psychedelic, shoegaze, punk, anything this band is pretty decent but totally outshined by japanese/american/canadian shoegaze bands


Donawhale is an indie poprock/post-rock/shoegaze band and really quite good

DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 26 2011 19:00 GMT
#31385
On August 27 2011 03:51 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 20:01 Hemula wrote:
On August 26 2011 19:43 Seditary wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdFeKj798hU

So this is the first time I'm watching Super Junior and I thought it sounded good until I looked for the lyrics. oh shit~ FML


The song doesn't really suit that type of MV. I think they should have done a more traditional MV with a dance performance instead of a montage approach. The beat and energy of the song is wasted on the slowmo scenes that isn't in sync with the song at all.

Yeah, guessing they didn't have time to make an actual MV, but needed something for their followup promotions so they threw this together.
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
August 26 2011 19:15 GMT
#31386
On August 27 2011 03:51 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 20:01 Hemula wrote:
On August 26 2011 19:43 Seditary wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdFeKj798hU

So this is the first time I'm watching Super Junior and I thought it sounded good until I looked for the lyrics. oh shit~ FML


The song doesn't really suit that type of MV. I think they should have done a more traditional MV with a dance performance instead of a montage approach. The beat and energy of the song is wasted on the slowmo scenes that isn't in sync with the song at all.


I don't think the MV is for the song at all. Its more to make all the ELFs remember the past since SJ is pretty much done for a few years now.
Love is more fun than hate.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 22:14:50
August 26 2011 22:06 GMT
#31387
Davichi's minialbum was 'leaked''(GG CCM)



+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SopAEDDb0LM&feature=player_embedded







Favorite song is #3 and #5, this is all so goddamn good though.

Hope theyl promote #3 eventually.
WriterXiao8~~
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
August 26 2011 22:24 GMT
#31388
On August 27 2011 07:06 Kipsate wrote:
Davichi's minialbum was 'leaked''(GG CCM)

Favorite song is #3 and #5, this is all so goddamn good though.

Hope theyl promote #3 eventually.


lawl CCM.

I agree with you on track 5.
Love is more fun than hate.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
August 26 2011 22:25 GMT
#31389
Disappointed in G.NA's comeback.

Thank you Seditary for always organizing everything together in one awesome post!
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
August 26 2011 23:25 GMT
#31390
On August 27 2011 07:25 TuElite wrote:
Disappointed in G.NA's comeback.

Thank you Seditary for always organizing everything together in one awesome post!


The song or her performance? Wasn't expecting much from the perf after coming back from Japan and the Cube concert the day before.

And no worries.
Love is more fun than hate.
Hellraiser
Profile Joined August 2011
1 Post
August 26 2011 23:36 GMT
#31391
On August 26 2011 18:15 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I think we need to steer away from the direction this thread has been heading with regards to the troll discussion. It's fine to talk about the relative attractiveness/unattractiveness of Kpop idols, but there's no need to be so harsh, crude or derogatory when doing so. Feel free to share your opinion, but let's try to do so in a semi-respectable manner. There's no need to describe them as "repulsive", "fuckin ugly", etc.

I don't care how "fun" it may be to some, there's no place for that on TL. Consider this to be a thread-wide warning.

Really? Roffles's posted the best post in God knows how many pages and you warn him for it? This modding repulses more people from this thread than pictures of trolls.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 23:45:39
August 26 2011 23:42 GMT
#31392
On August 26 2011 18:15 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I think we need to steer away from the direction this thread has been heading with regards to the troll discussion. It's fine to talk about the relative attractiveness/unattractiveness of Kpop idols, but there's no need to be so harsh, crude or derogatory when doing so. Feel free to share your opinion, but let's try to do so in a semi-respectable manner. There's no need to describe them as "repulsive", "fuckin ugly", etc.

I don't care how "fun" it may be to some, there's no place for that on TL. Consider this to be a thread-wide warning.


I've been wanting to say this for a long time and this is perfect timing:

The thing is, outside of TL, even if someone says that HyoYeon is an "ugly ho", yeah it's wrong and demeaning. However the general fanbase has every right to be as critical about celebrities in general because the popularity of a celebrity is heavily affected by the fans. It's as if Korean Idols (being specific) signed an unwritten contract in that people can think of them any way they want, whether it be right or wrong (as long as the thoughts aren't about affecting them harshly on a deep personal level, physical or emotional).

For example, I THINK its perfectly fair to call HyunAh a cheap slut based upon how she's portrayed through a bulk of her promotional activities. Come on, pelvic thrusting on stage aired on national TV is pretty slutty. However in real life she might be someone completely opposite. But that criticism is fair based upon the image she projects. Thinking of giving the bat to HaRa because she looks like a bitch vs. actually intending to giving the bat to HaRa because you intend to flat out hurt her are different because the first is due to what she projects as a celebrity while the second is blatantly disrespecting her as a human being.

What's not fair is banding together to sign suicide petitions for Jay Park because he was having a hard time adjusting to his surroundings. It's not fair to grill Shin SeKyung or Park MinYoung for having a relationship with JongHyun / Lee MinHo and the other way around because the imagination of being a couple with that celebrity is ruined.

If I say that Sunny is an annoying bitch because of her artificial aegyo, it's classless sure. But I have every right to think that because I'm the one being entertained, I'm the one that will potentially buy the product because I think they're worthy of my money, time, and thoughts being devoted to be entertained, and basically I'm one of many people who get to determine if they are worth my time paying attention to, negatively or positively. Celebrities are there to entertain, but they don't determine how people end up being entertained by them. Thing is, out of all people I think you should have a pretty good understanding of that.


Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 23:49:30
August 26 2011 23:47 GMT
#31393
You can think anything you'd like - there's no thought police, but how much / how severe you go about posting that is a different matter. Saying "XYZ" is a troll is a meh statement, but saying "I want to take a bat to XYZ's face" takes it up a notch.

I prefer nanashin's rather humorous approach to the whole troll subject.

[edit]I'm amused that hypothetical example was actually said, since I had skipped that whole page of trolling.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
August 26 2011 23:48 GMT
#31394
On August 27 2011 08:42 MorningMusume11 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2011 18:15 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I think we need to steer away from the direction this thread has been heading with regards to the troll discussion. It's fine to talk about the relative attractiveness/unattractiveness of Kpop idols, but there's no need to be so harsh, crude or derogatory when doing so. Feel free to share your opinion, but let's try to do so in a semi-respectable manner. There's no need to describe them as "repulsive", "fuckin ugly", etc.

I don't care how "fun" it may be to some, there's no place for that on TL. Consider this to be a thread-wide warning.


I've been wanting to say this for a long time and this is perfect timing:

The thing is, outside of TL, even if someone says that HyoYeon is an "ugly ho", yeah it's wrong and demeaning. However the general fanbase has every right to be as critical about celebrities in general because the popularity of a celebrity is heavily affected by the fans. It's as if Korean Idols (being specific) signed an unwritten contract in that people can think of them any way they want, whether it be right or wrong (as long as the thoughts aren't about affecting them harshly on a deep personal level, physical or emotional).

For example, I THINK its perfectly fair to call HyunAh a cheap slut based upon how she's portrayed through a bulk of her promotional activities. Come on, pelvic thrusting on stage aired on national TV is pretty slutty. However in real life she might be someone completely opposite. But that criticism is fair based upon the image she projects. Thinking of giving the bat to HaRa because she looks like a bitch vs. actually intending to giving the bat to HaRa because you intend to flat out hurt her are different because the first is due to what she projects as a celebrity while the second is blatantly disrespecting her as a human being.

What's not fair is banding together to sign suicide petitions for Jay Park because he was having a hard time adjusting to his surroundings. It's not fair to grill Shin SeKyung or Park MinYoung for having a relationship with JongHyun / Lee MinHo and the other way around because the imagination of being a couple with that celebrity is ruined.

If I say that Sunny is an annoying bitch because of her artificial aegyo, it's classless sure. But I have every right to think that because I'm the one being entertained, I'm the one that will potentially buy the product because I think they're worthy of my money, time, and thoughts being devoted to be entertained, and basically I'm one of many people who get to determine if they are worth my time paying attention to, negatively or positively. Celebrities are there to entertain, but they don't determine how people end up being entertained by them. Thing is, out of all people I think you should have a pretty good understanding of that.




"Keep the expression hate of music individuals/groups to a minimal level"

It's right there on the top of the page. How is it hard to understand?
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 26 2011 23:50 GMT
#31395
On August 27 2011 08:25 Seditary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 07:25 TuElite wrote:
Disappointed in G.NA's comeback.

Thank you Seditary for always organizing everything together in one awesome post!


The song or her performance? Wasn't expecting much from the perf after coming back from Japan and the Cube concert the day before.

And no worries.

Don't like either of the songs really. Banana makes me cringe cause the english is so damn cheesy and Top Girl just isn't a good song.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 00:00:15
August 26 2011 23:53 GMT
#31396
On August 27 2011 08:48 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 08:42 MorningMusume11 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2011 18:15 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I think we need to steer away from the direction this thread has been heading with regards to the troll discussion. It's fine to talk about the relative attractiveness/unattractiveness of Kpop idols, but there's no need to be so harsh, crude or derogatory when doing so. Feel free to share your opinion, but let's try to do so in a semi-respectable manner. There's no need to describe them as "repulsive", "fuckin ugly", etc.

I don't care how "fun" it may be to some, there's no place for that on TL. Consider this to be a thread-wide warning.


I've been wanting to say this for a long time and this is perfect timing:

The thing is, outside of TL, even if someone says that HyoYeon is an "ugly ho", yeah it's wrong and demeaning. However the general fanbase has every right to be as critical about celebrities in general because the popularity of a celebrity is heavily affected by the fans. It's as if Korean Idols (being specific) signed an unwritten contract in that people can think of them any way they want, whether it be right or wrong (as long as the thoughts aren't about affecting them harshly on a deep personal level, physical or emotional).

For example, I THINK its perfectly fair to call HyunAh a cheap slut based upon how she's portrayed through a bulk of her promotional activities. Come on, pelvic thrusting on stage aired on national TV is pretty slutty. However in real life she might be someone completely opposite. But that criticism is fair based upon the image she projects. Thinking of giving the bat to HaRa because she looks like a bitch vs. actually intending to giving the bat to HaRa because you intend to flat out hurt her are different because the first is due to what she projects as a celebrity while the second is blatantly disrespecting her as a human being.

What's not fair is banding together to sign suicide petitions for Jay Park because he was having a hard time adjusting to his surroundings. It's not fair to grill Shin SeKyung or Park MinYoung for having a relationship with JongHyun / Lee MinHo and the other way around because the imagination of being a couple with that celebrity is ruined.

If I say that Sunny is an annoying bitch because of her artificial aegyo, it's classless sure. But I have every right to think that because I'm the one being entertained, I'm the one that will potentially buy the product because I think they're worthy of my money, time, and thoughts being devoted to be entertained, and basically I'm one of many people who get to determine if they are worth my time paying attention to, negatively or positively. Celebrities are there to entertain, but they don't determine how people end up being entertained by them. Thing is, out of all people I think you should have a pretty good understanding of that.




"Keep the expression hate of music individuals/groups to a minimal level"

It's right there on the top of the page. How is it hard to understand?


It's not like I was criticizing Cyric's actions to warn people... especially if you consider the words that are bolded. I mean seriously, you miss the entire point of my post just because of what you read on the top of a page... oh man, it's so hopeless posting an actual thought on this thread.

Since you're so good on following instructions, to reach the bolded part of my post
1. Click on "Show Nested Quote"
2. Then Click on "Show Spoiler"
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 00:01:02
August 26 2011 23:59 GMT
#31397
On August 27 2011 08:53 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 08:48 Moonwrath wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:42 MorningMusume11 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2011 18:15 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I think we need to steer away from the direction this thread has been heading with regards to the troll discussion. It's fine to talk about the relative attractiveness/unattractiveness of Kpop idols, but there's no need to be so harsh, crude or derogatory when doing so. Feel free to share your opinion, but let's try to do so in a semi-respectable manner. There's no need to describe them as "repulsive", "fuckin ugly", etc.

I don't care how "fun" it may be to some, there's no place for that on TL. Consider this to be a thread-wide warning.


I've been wanting to say this for a long time and this is perfect timing:

The thing is, outside of TL, even if someone says that HyoYeon is an "ugly ho", yeah it's wrong and demeaning. However the general fanbase has every right to be as critical about celebrities in general because the popularity of a celebrity is heavily affected by the fans. It's as if Korean Idols (being specific) signed an unwritten contract in that people can think of them any way they want, whether it be right or wrong (as long as the thoughts aren't about affecting them harshly on a deep personal level, physical or emotional).

For example, I THINK its perfectly fair to call HyunAh a cheap slut based upon how she's portrayed through a bulk of her promotional activities. Come on, pelvic thrusting on stage aired on national TV is pretty slutty. However in real life she might be someone completely opposite. But that criticism is fair based upon the image she projects. Thinking of giving the bat to HaRa because she looks like a bitch vs. actually intending to giving the bat to HaRa because you intend to flat out hurt her are different because the first is due to what she projects as a celebrity while the second is blatantly disrespecting her as a human being.

What's not fair is banding together to sign suicide petitions for Jay Park because he was having a hard time adjusting to his surroundings. It's not fair to grill Shin SeKyung or Park MinYoung for having a relationship with JongHyun / Lee MinHo and the other way around because the imagination of being a couple with that celebrity is ruined.

If I say that Sunny is an annoying bitch because of her artificial aegyo, it's classless sure. But I have every right to think that because I'm the one being entertained, I'm the one that will potentially buy the product because I think they're worthy of my money, time, and thoughts being devoted to be entertained, and basically I'm one of many people who get to determine if they are worth my time paying attention to, negatively or positively. Celebrities are there to entertain, but they don't determine how people end up being entertained by them. Thing is, out of all people I think you should have a pretty good understanding of that.




"Keep the expression hate of music individuals/groups to a minimal level"

It's right there on the top of the page. How is it hard to understand?


It's not like I was criticizing Cyric's actions to warn people... especially if you consider the words that are bolded. I mean seriously, you miss the entire point of my post just because of what you read on the top of a page... oh man, it's so hopeless posting something an actual thought on this thread.

Since you're so good on following instructions, to reach the bolded part of my post
1. Click on "Show Nested Quote"
2. Then Click on "Show Spoiler"

I'm not talking about the moderation. There are obviously rules for the thread, clearly posted up top. Calling people "annoying bitch" and "cheap slut" is just uncalled for. It just doesn't serve a purpose other than being an asshole about it.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 00:05:52
August 27 2011 00:04 GMT
#31398
i'd say annoying bitch and cheap slut may be overdoing it, but since image is like 90% of kpop I think it is fair that we can criticize what they do or how they look like.

Minimal level =/ none.
WriterXiao8~~
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 00:07 GMT
#31399
On August 27 2011 09:04 Kipsate wrote:
i'd say annoying bitch and cheap slut may be overdoing it, but since image is like 90% of kpop I think it is fair that we can criticize what they do or how they look like.

Minimal level =/ none.

Agree, which is why I think the troll discussions are fine but "cheap slut" and bitch, etc., are not.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
August 27 2011 00:08 GMT
#31400
On August 27 2011 08:59 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 08:53 MorningMusume11 wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:48 Moonwrath wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:42 MorningMusume11 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2011 18:15 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I think we need to steer away from the direction this thread has been heading with regards to the troll discussion. It's fine to talk about the relative attractiveness/unattractiveness of Kpop idols, but there's no need to be so harsh, crude or derogatory when doing so. Feel free to share your opinion, but let's try to do so in a semi-respectable manner. There's no need to describe them as "repulsive", "fuckin ugly", etc.

I don't care how "fun" it may be to some, there's no place for that on TL. Consider this to be a thread-wide warning.


I've been wanting to say this for a long time and this is perfect timing:

The thing is, outside of TL, even if someone says that HyoYeon is an "ugly ho", yeah it's wrong and demeaning. However the general fanbase has every right to be as critical about celebrities in general because the popularity of a celebrity is heavily affected by the fans. It's as if Korean Idols (being specific) signed an unwritten contract in that people can think of them any way they want, whether it be right or wrong (as long as the thoughts aren't about affecting them harshly on a deep personal level, physical or emotional).

For example, I THINK its perfectly fair to call HyunAh a cheap slut based upon how she's portrayed through a bulk of her promotional activities. Come on, pelvic thrusting on stage aired on national TV is pretty slutty. However in real life she might be someone completely opposite. But that criticism is fair based upon the image she projects. Thinking of giving the bat to HaRa because she looks like a bitch vs. actually intending to giving the bat to HaRa because you intend to flat out hurt her are different because the first is due to what she projects as a celebrity while the second is blatantly disrespecting her as a human being.

What's not fair is banding together to sign suicide petitions for Jay Park because he was having a hard time adjusting to his surroundings. It's not fair to grill Shin SeKyung or Park MinYoung for having a relationship with JongHyun / Lee MinHo and the other way around because the imagination of being a couple with that celebrity is ruined.

If I say that Sunny is an annoying bitch because of her artificial aegyo, it's classless sure. But I have every right to think that because I'm the one being entertained, I'm the one that will potentially buy the product because I think they're worthy of my money, time, and thoughts being devoted to be entertained, and basically I'm one of many people who get to determine if they are worth my time paying attention to, negatively or positively. Celebrities are there to entertain, but they don't determine how people end up being entertained by them. Thing is, out of all people I think you should have a pretty good understanding of that.




"Keep the expression hate of music individuals/groups to a minimal level"

It's right there on the top of the page. How is it hard to understand?


It's not like I was criticizing Cyric's actions to warn people... especially if you consider the words that are bolded. I mean seriously, you miss the entire point of my post just because of what you read on the top of a page... oh man, it's so hopeless posting something an actual thought on this thread.

Since you're so good on following instructions, to reach the bolded part of my post
1. Click on "Show Nested Quote"
2. Then Click on "Show Spoiler"

I'm not talking about the moderation. There are obviously rules for the thread, clearly posted up top. Calling people "annoying bitch" and "cheap slut" is just uncalled for.


True, except when I did I even mention a significant reference about thread rules in my post? Isn't it obvious that I'm illustrating my own opinion about fan behavior in general, not how this thread is being moderated?

If you're trolling by playing dumb then you're only hurting yourself because you're just portraying yourself as someone that can't even recognize the true points of what people are actually trying to convey. Seriously give up now about mentioning rules because it's not helping matters one bit, especially if you're some white knight trying to protect two of the people I used as examples for your favorite K-Pop group.




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