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rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
August 24 2011 07:02 GMT
#31201
On August 24 2011 14:39 Seditary wrote:


3. T-ara are saying goodbye to Roly Poly this week.
Show nested quote +
For their ‘Good Bye, Roly-Poly’ stages, the members will dress up in winter and summer school uniforms, exercise drill uniforms, girl scout uniforms and vintage clothes — all outfits that drew a wild response from their fans.




NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
I will miss it



+ Show Spoiler +
How long have they been performing that anyways?? It's been like forever.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 24 2011 07:07 GMT
#31202
^yeah, Roly poly has been promoted for pretty much 2 entire months, I remember it came out the week before july 4th weekend cause I was away and had to use my shitty phone to watch the MV lol, making it almost 2 full months.

On August 24 2011 16:00 gokai wrote:
Haha, it's pretty sick how much kpop artist work. I've seen an interview with U-kiss where they say they have no free time. They have a full schedule everyday with no free day throughout the year.

And the live performances you see are not actually live. They have to do a whole day of filming to get all the angels the tv show wants. Man, imagine performing the same song for a whole day straight. And that's only for one performance. They do serveral every week.

Plus most kpop group get money mainly from Japan. If you're not a part of the big three agencies, you barely make money in Korea. I remember reading a kpop artist makes 10 times what they make a year in Korea if they spend a month in Japan. Not surprising since selling 50,000 albums is consider pretty good in Korea.

Well, half the groups haven't gone to Japan yet so that's not entirely true. Everything else you stated is pretty much common knowledge, yeah. The no days off seems alittle more harsh than most, you get birthdays/Chuseok off AFAIK as long as there's no schedules then, and since most Chuseok specials are prerecorded there shouldn't be a schedule there really.

Music programs take a full day, but AFAIK that's just cause their scheduling is weird and you're on call for alot of the time, otherwise I believe it's 4 or so takes.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
August 24 2011 07:34 GMT
#31203
Haven't been able to log into the forum until now, so I have a lot to catch up on and respond to.

Just before I had to sign off, I had just responded to a few posts questioning the moderating policy of this thread and what should/should not be the policy. I first want to make it clear that I actually have no problem with how the thread was going prior to it being locked. As others have said, this is a light-hearted, and often silly, topic where a lot of silly/stupid/pointless/etc. posts are made in good fun and mutual enjoyment of Kpop. I don't think it really hurts anyone or the site when people make their little fanboy posts, as long as it doesn't get as ridiculously immature and flame-filled as what you see on sites like Allkpop or fanclub forums.

However, there was a point where this thread was getting out of control with the low quality of the posts. That was what triggered a significant responses from the staff, the editing of the OP and the addition of those rules on the first page. The staff discussed the matter and concluded that the quality of posting needed to go up in this thread as it was against general site policy to allow such low-quality posting.

Since then, the thread has been doing quite well for the most part in my opinion. The regulars do a pretty good job of letting the newcomers what is and is not acceptable in their own way, and there have been little to no problems. However, this recent "dat yejin" spammage drew the attention of at least one mod, which resulted in it becoming locked. I agree that that particularly string was pushing the boundaries of what kind of quality of posting we look for in TL, even in silly threads, although I would probably have reacted a little differently. However, the locking did its job in drawing attention to what the staff has previously identified as what it doesn't want to see this thread degenerating into, and in renewing a healthy discussion of what should or should not be tolerated. In that, I think it was a productive move.

As for my posts immediately after, my intention was to remind everyone of the standards that the staff had previously laid out for this thread and that we don't have complete carte blanche as to what we post in this thread. While the leash is quite long, it's not infinitely so. I will freely admit that the moderating is very lax and has been inconsistent. However, I believe this is a result of the staff struggling between not wanting to repress the harmless good fun that is in this thread, while also not wanting it to degenerate too far. Personally, my preference is to make an example of a person once in a while when things are starting to head a bad direction, as opposed to carefully policing every little possibly questionable post. The latter is too exhausting and, frankly, I don't think it's necessary.

In the end, what should be taken from this most recent locking of the thread is that the staff still has standards that it wants maintained in this thread. I agree with Chill and various others that this thread is a special case because of the subject matter and the manner in which it is shared and discussed, but it's really not that hard for us to put some effort into our posts when we can. Already, the posts since the locking have been a little better, and I don't think the enjoyment of the subject matter has suffered as a result.

Keep in mind that, while this is a Kpop thread, it's also a Kpop thread on TL, a site that I think we all associate with quality and being better than the rest. There's nothing that requires people to post like mindless 5 yr olds to share and enjoy Kpop content with each other.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 24 2011 09:02 GMT
#31204
On August 24 2011 14:39 Seditary wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


Ohh man that song is awesome. Big lady can siiinngg (they all can tbh).

Thanks for always supplying me with many pleasures, Seditary. <3
Writer
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
August 24 2011 09:04 GMT
#31205
On August 24 2011 16:34 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Keep in mind that, while this is a Kpop thread, it's also a Kpop thread on TL, a site that I think we all associate with quality and being better than the rest.


The fact that there still is a functional general kpop thread that hasn't been torn asunder with fan bullshit is better than the rest already lol.

Some After School, Kahi so cute speaking Japanese lol.
Love is more fun than hate.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
August 24 2011 09:16 GMT
#31206
Boram is like...selca inception here or something, I'm so confused.
[image loading]
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 09:17:36
August 24 2011 09:17 GMT
#31207
On August 24 2011 18:04 Seditary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 16:34 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Keep in mind that, while this is a Kpop thread, it's also a Kpop thread on TL, a site that I think we all associate with quality and being better than the rest.


The fact that there still is a functional general kpop thread that hasn't been torn asunder with fan bullshit is better than the rest already lol.

Some After School, Kahi so cute speaking Japanese lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH2uB5lwcjQ


^ When is Kahi not cute?
[image loading]

That Kahi, she is the most adorable 30+ year old
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
August 24 2011 09:19 GMT
#31208
On August 24 2011 18:17 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 18:04 Seditary wrote:
On August 24 2011 16:34 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Keep in mind that, while this is a Kpop thread, it's also a Kpop thread on TL, a site that I think we all associate with quality and being better than the rest.


The fact that there still is a functional general kpop thread that hasn't been torn asunder with fan bullshit is better than the rest already lol.

Some After School, Kahi so cute speaking Japanese lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH2uB5lwcjQ


^ When is Kahi not cute?


When she's being fucking hot. Which is often.
Love is more fun than hate.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
August 24 2011 09:21 GMT
#31209
On August 24 2011 18:19 Seditary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 18:17 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:04 Seditary wrote:
On August 24 2011 16:34 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Keep in mind that, while this is a Kpop thread, it's also a Kpop thread on TL, a site that I think we all associate with quality and being better than the rest.


The fact that there still is a functional general kpop thread that hasn't been torn asunder with fan bullshit is better than the rest already lol.

Some After School, Kahi so cute speaking Japanese lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH2uB5lwcjQ


^ When is Kahi not cute?


When she's being fucking hot. Which is often.

I stand corrected
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 10:27:17
August 24 2011 10:22 GMT
#31210
Boram stealing the Taxi outfit or smthing.

Also, Wae Ironi is so weird in these outfits
WriterXiao8~~
Waterhaak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 10:55:07
August 24 2011 10:47 GMT
#31211
On August 24 2011 19:22 Kipsate wrote:
Boram stealing the Taxi outfit or smthing.

Also, Wae Ironi is so weird in these outfits
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJUW8BLkPlA&feature=feedu

It's been a while since I last watched a T-ara perf, but I'm totally falling in love with Hyomin again, yeppuda! They all look really good here though.

On August 24 2011 14:39 Seditary wrote:
2. Hikkup is confirmed by SM to not be on the Korean album. No idea if it was and they pulled it because it leaked or not.

I'm interested where you heard this, because it would be quite a shame as the song has huge potential, in my opinion ateast.
버섯보다 빛나는
SKaysc
Profile Joined May 2010
United States305 Posts
August 24 2011 11:00 GMT
#31212
hyomin is so fkn hot in that red outfit <3
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 11:02:39
August 24 2011 11:00 GMT
#31213
On August 24 2011 19:47 Waterhaak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 14:39 Seditary wrote:
2. Hikkup is confirmed by SM to not be on the Korean album. No idea if it was and they pulled it because it leaked or not.

I'm interested where you heard this, because it would be quite a shame as the song has huge potential, in my opinion ateast.


From SM Entertainment of course.

Also, this starts on the 2nd of September.
Love is more fun than hate.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 11:28:56
August 24 2011 11:11 GMT
#31214
SM blocked Hikkup on youtube though, so I imagine they have a plan for it. Maybe for another group later this year?

And Sistar looks super cute in that preview. Idk if I can take more Hello Baby though.

On August 24 2011 20:13 Seditary wrote:
Well its registered under Girls Generation at the Korea Music Copyright Association.

Yeah that's what is weird about it. They could be just saying it's not on the album or whatever to throw people off. Just have to wait and see next month. It's a good base for a song. I've listened to some of the other guides to songs like Echo and Let it Rain and SM producers make them sooooooo much better.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 11:46:45
August 24 2011 11:13 GMT
#31215
On August 24 2011 20:11 Moonwrath wrote:
SM blocked Hikkup on youtube though, so I imagine they have a plan for it. Maybe for another group later this year?

And Sistar looks super cute in that preview. Idk if I can take more Hello Baby though.


Well its registered under Girls Generation at the Korea Music Copyright Association.

To your edit: Yeah, they could do anything really, and they haven't said anything about Time Machine which is also registered, so I don't know.

And we have new group called BB. Boys, this features G.NA, seemed alright to me.
Love is more fun than hate.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
August 24 2011 12:32 GMT
#31216
On August 24 2011 18:17 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 18:04 Seditary wrote:
On August 24 2011 16:34 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Keep in mind that, while this is a Kpop thread, it's also a Kpop thread on TL, a site that I think we all associate with quality and being better than the rest.


The fact that there still is a functional general kpop thread that hasn't been torn asunder with fan bullshit is better than the rest already lol.

Some After School, Kahi so cute speaking Japanese lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH2uB5lwcjQ


^ When is Kahi not cute?
[image loading]

That Kahi, she is the most adorable 30+ year old


yep most beautiful 30+ year old ever
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
August 24 2011 13:18 GMT
#31217
--- Nuked ---
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 13:31:54
August 24 2011 13:26 GMT
#31218
+ Show Spoiler +


Song decent

girl in MV major qtpie.

This is also recent, for those who love (non-idol) ballads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIYgpOxUdRA&feature=channel_video_title

Lena park always good.
WriterXiao8~~
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
August 24 2011 13:40 GMT
#31219
Uh wait, how do you know how much they earn in korea and in japan? I've been following kpop for a while and when it comes to money, they tend to avoid number figures.
Trizzen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 14:19:32
August 24 2011 14:16 GMT
#31220
On August 24 2011 22:40 Cubu wrote:
Uh wait, how do you know how much they earn in korea and in japan? I've been following kpop for a while and when it comes to money, they tend to avoid number figures.


Apparently bucketloads more than than enough to toss aside Korean pride and dignity by vocally bastardising the eloquent lyrics that makes kpop.

On the bright side i'm glad After School(jungahhhhhh<3<3) are hopefully making money.

Edit: This choon was surprisingly awesome, sorry if it's been posted before. Haven't visited this thread for awhile.

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