Korean Music Discussion - Page 1560

On August 24 2011 07:51 Moonwrath wrote:
The entire "is this art" argument is one of the most mundane and pointless debates one could ever have. Art is 100% subjective, and to deny these people "art" status(whatever the hell that is) just because they don't write their own songs(some do, most don't) is patently absurd. I'm now convinced that I'm being trolled by that lengthy diatribe that pretty much amounted to "KPop has nothing other than looking at the pretty girls dance and try to sing."

On August 30 2010 08:05 MorningMusume11 wrote:


lol that's exactly what I thought too, but it was fricking hard to finish that one song with WISE.

Who needs SNSD or KARA when you got BRIGHT

On August 30 2010 08:22 Souma wrote:


Good song, ugly chicks.

... and that is why people go for SNSD/Kara etc.

On another note, I've had Namie Amuro's "Get Myself Back" and supercell's "Hoshi ga Mabataku Konna Yoru ni" on repeat for a while now. Woo.

On August 24 2011 09:37 MorningMusume11 wrote:


Well you would think "art" takes some sort of creativity, something that song writers and composers have to utilize to some extent.

Oh and while you're at it, you might as well say that music is subjective. Sure, that's a valid argument, however if that's the only thing you can come up with to defend a group's song or whatever, that's just borderline pathetic. You would think something that actually sounds "good" would speak volumes about its quality, with or without the need of x amount of good looking people being involved.

Your first statement gives off the vibe that in fact YOU KNOW better, at least have a general sense of what's considered aesthetically good or not. Don't use subjectivity bullshit to cover up the fact that out of the nine members in your favorite group, at least 1/3 of them have no business singing at all, or that probably 2/3 of them don't have some sort of music creativity sense. I mean it's ok, as long as they keep topping the Japanese and Korean charts right? Because subjectively, people think the songs they promote are great because it has some unique hook and good looking girls to visually stimulate the audience.

Souma's reply post to mine in the J-Pop thread sums it up the best about how K-Pop or even J-Pop works.

On August 24 2011 03:14 ChinaLifeXXL wrote:
What do you call Kara fans? Like how SNSD fans are called sones or how Rainbow fans are called Leprechauns, for instance.

Because I'm not really sure what the singular of a Kara fan would be?

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On August 24 2011 10:44 DystopiaX wrote:

Rainbow fans are officially Rain-nous, the "Prismatic" thing was what the international fans called themselves before DSP gave them an "official" name, and IMO they should have stuck with it. If you're going to have an English fanclub name you should leave it up to the people who are fluent in English to decide the name; otherwise what you come up with sounds fine from a "I studied english definitions and this would make sense" perspective but sounds dumb from anyone who actually spent time speaking the language.

Also I don't check thread for a day and 5 pages...wtf?

On August 24 2011 09:02 Vharox wrote:
Am I the only one that dislikes Rain as an artist (as in not liking his music)? Or am I just jealous of his abs :o

On August 24 2011 02:20 EchoZ wrote:


Lessang's MV is a work of art. LOEN really can make good MVs. First Sunny Hill's Pray now this

On August 24 2011 12:41 USK wrote:
Did they have a Bananas MV but just did not release it since it was banned right away? I was wondering since the teaser they released was of that song. I never really liked a song from G.Na though I still like her singing. Actually the best one for me, was that "rap ballad" off hyuna's album, was some of her earlier releases a little more moody like that?

On August 24 2011 07:23 MethodSC wrote:
I don't think you know the meaning of avid. There's so much music out there in the korean industry, and most of it is NOT cutesy or repetitive. You just need to look at places other than AKP for your music to find it. If all you know is girl groups and boy bands, you are definitely not an avid listener.

On August 24 2011 12:50 Katsuge wrote:
to be honest the previous page was pretty hard to digest, save a couple of decent vids that were posted.

i mean why are we even discussing whether kpop is art.. -_-;;

lets get back on track people,

ok so recently i finally managed to find the time to watch my girlfriend is a gumiho, and was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the osts used in the drama, especially this.
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On August 24 2011 12:17 OopsOopsBaby wrote:

unfortunately the concept isnt new and they didnt put as much effort into it.
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Cosmetics brand ‘Enprani‘ has announced that they will be canceling their contract with singer Son Dambi in addition to suing her for $1 million USD due to a breach of contract.

On August 24th, the Seoul Central District Court revealed that ‘Enprani’ had filed a lawsuit demanding $1 million USD for compensation in damages, as Son Dambi and Pledis Entertainment had breached their contract by endorsing ‘ELCA‘ and ‘MAC‘.

The head manager of ‘Enprani’ stated, “On October 14th, Son Dambi signed an exclusive contract with our company with a clause that prohibited her from working with other competing companies and/or other cosmetics advertisements and events. However, she breached the contract by modeling for ‘MAC’ cosmetics beginning May 24th.”

They continued, “‘MAC’ and ‘ELCA’ have been using Son Dambi as if she was their own model by including her in magazines, internet advertisements, and all other press releases with regards to their products.”

‘Enprani’ added, “Her agency made an excuse stating that ‘ELCA’ had used her portrait rights without permission for their advertisement and press releases. However, the fact that she promoted and advertised their products while still under contract with us can only be regarded as a breach of contract.”

‘Enprani’ is demanding $840,000 USD (double the amount of $420,000 they paid to Son Dambi and Pledis) on top of an additional $169,400 USD for production expenses used on her advertisements. The company filed an additional claim against ‘ELCA’ that’s estimated to be $300,000 USD.

On August 24th, representatives of Pledis revealed to Star News, “‘MAC‘ was used as the sponsored cosmetics brand for SBS’s ‘Kiss & Cry‘ so every star on the show, including Son Dambi, received makeup on the show using the brand’s products. ‘MAC’ later included pictures of Son Dambi and the other stars wearing their makeup in their press releases to other media outlets like magazines.”

They continued, “Representatives of ‘MAC’ have continuously included photos of the stars as if they were promoting and advertising the brand. We have consistently asked for them to fix their press releases. ‘MAC’ admitted their mistake and sent an apology to both Pledis and ‘Enprani’ so we thought the situation was resolved, which is why this lawsuit has caught us by surprise.”

For their ‘Good Bye, Roly-Poly’ stages, the members will dress up in winter and summer school uniforms, exercise drill uniforms, girl scout uniforms and vintage clothes — all outfits that drew a wild response from their fans.

On August 24 2011 14:39 Seditary wrote:
2. Hikkup is confirmed by SM to not be on the Korean album. No idea if it was and they pulled it because it leaked or not.