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iwantsushi
Profile Joined October 2010
India128 Posts
January 19 2011 03:51 GMT
#20821
there is no kara w/o gyuri
" i like protoss because they're clean" - " "
Wingding
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada56 Posts
January 19 2011 03:56 GMT
#20822
They trademarked KARA so that quartet can't reform as KARA under another company.
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
January 19 2011 04:00 GMT
#20823
On January 19 2011 12:56 Wingding wrote:
They trademarked KARA so that quartet can't reform as KARA under another company.


And what good will that do? Its absolutely pointless. Even if gyuri is the most popular of the group, you can't have a group with just one person and you can't just fill in the void with newcomers. The way i see it, Kara is as good as dead to DSP.
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
January 19 2011 04:01 GMT
#20824
i thought SM were the evil masters of slavery haha
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 19 2011 04:08 GMT
#20825
On January 19 2011 13:01 smekz wrote:
i thought SM were the evil masters of slavery haha

Its like 1a, 1b, and 1c. They share evil masters duty.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 04:10:57
January 19 2011 04:09 GMT
#20826
A rose by another name, etc.

I don't care what they call themselves.

On January 19 2011 12:51 ace246 wrote:
Why the fuck would DSP trademark the kara name? the only one left would be gyuri ( if she doesn't leave like the other 4). I'm somewhat glad that they are leaving the company now.

Every group name is trademarked before the groups even debut.
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sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 04:18:40
January 19 2011 04:18 GMT
#20827
On January 19 2011 13:09 Craton wrote:
A rose by another name, etc.

I don't care what they call themselves.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 12:51 ace246 wrote:
Why the fuck would DSP trademark the kara name? the only one left would be gyuri ( if she doesn't leave like the other 4). I'm somewhat glad that they are leaving the company now.

Every group name is trademarked before the groups even debut.


Its been 3 years since kara debuted. The fact that it still hasn't been trademarked to this day is proof that they didn't care so long as kara was with them. This is probably just their little revenge for the members willing to move out.

On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
January 19 2011 04:18 GMT
#20828
Funny thing is that Gyuri's the one who came up with the name apparently.
Real action, my dream.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
January 19 2011 04:23 GMT
#20829
On January 19 2011 13:00 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 12:56 Wingding wrote:
They trademarked KARA so that quartet can't reform as KARA under another company.


And what good will that do? Its absolutely pointless. Even if gyuri is the most popular of the group, you can't have a group with just one person and you can't just fill in the void with newcomers. The way i see it, Kara is as good as dead to DSP.

KARA has brand recognition. It's a good business decision because it doesn't cost them anything, they have a legit claim to it, and it hurts the 4, which helps them should they promote as the same time as a DSP group (only Rainbow at this point)
zerroth
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 04:26:41
January 19 2011 04:26 GMT
#20830
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/01/tv-report-uncovers-details-on-the-story-behind-karas-contracts

Money money money. says its just the mothers and doesnt really discuss if it was the members that felt the same
With no power, comes no responsibility.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 04:31:02
January 19 2011 04:28 GMT
#20831
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/01/tv-report-uncovers-details-on-the-story-behind-karas-contracts
more info. $3000 each? out of 18 million? For Japanese promotions. I guess they make slightly more for Korean promos, but still...And they haven't been paid for anything other than album sales for japan promotions yet. lol...I know it's similar for all kpop groups but has to be worse than others, B2ST mentioned they make like $8000 per year each, and that's as a rookie group.
Apparently Gyuri's mom was the only one who wanted to stay faithful to DSP despite the shitty pay. Basically, the other 4 were bought, contract penalties paid off by some other label, they'd make more money. I say more power to em. Also, legal action by DSP to ensue due to them attempting to sign with someone else+contract terminations.
edit- interesting that only Gyuri's mother was quoted for the article. Either they're not bothering to ask about the other 4 or they didn't want to comment.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
January 19 2011 04:31 GMT
#20832
According to another industry representative, KARA brought in a total of $18 million USD in income from their Japanese promotions, but as of December 2010, the group was only paid $3,000 USD per person.


I already knew about the 18M and I knew that the KPop industry was a slave industry but 3k ? ARE U SERIOUS ?

GOD DAMN!

Imagine what it would be like for them logging on to the Internet after their promotions and finding out they made 18m but only gets 3k ? I would have killed someone.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
January 19 2011 04:34 GMT
#20833
Keep in mind the 18 million is everything, including CFs and appearances, and the 3k is only album sales; they haven't been paid for anything else yet but apparently will be now.
nalho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 04:37:39
January 19 2011 04:36 GMT
#20834
So basically the parents and the payment were the reason why the termination ever happened?

Although it seems reasonable for parents to be worried when their child's effort is rewarded with only $3000 out of $18 Million.

This is starting to have different sides because the KARA members said it was because the company forced them to do things they didn't agree with, but now it's the mothers and issue about money.
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hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
January 19 2011 04:37 GMT
#20835
hahaha that's ridiculous. This reminds me of that Yoo Jaesuk story, where his agency basically decided not to (or couldn't?) pay him for nearly an entire year (to the tune of $600000).
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
January 19 2011 04:38 GMT
#20836
On January 19 2011 11:49 frodoguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 11:30 Katsuge wrote:
no rigging
Poll: gyuri or 4

4 (42)
 
68%

gyuri (11)
 
18%

idc i no like kara anywae (9)
 
15%

62 total votes

Your vote: gyuri or 4

(Vote): gyuri
(Vote): 4
(Vote): idc i no like kara anywae



Did you vote for the "idc i no like kara anywae"?

no i voted 4 actually.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
January 19 2011 04:42 GMT
#20837
On January 19 2011 13:36 YaKool wrote:
So basically the parents and the payment were the reason why the termination ever happened?

Although it seems reasonable for parents to be worried when their child's effort is rewarded with only $3000 out of $18 Million.

This is starting to have different sides because the KARA members said it was because the company forced them to do things they didn't agree with, but now it's the mothers and issue about money.

It's probably both; the new article seemed to only be able to get DSP's side of the story+ another official statement from the 4's lawyer. Notice only Gyuri's mom was interviewed, not any of the others, so it's hard to tell.
iwantsushi
Profile Joined October 2010
India128 Posts
January 19 2011 04:43 GMT
#20838
atleast it wasnt something nasty between the group, but yeah.....it does seem like the end of kara
" i like protoss because they're clean" - " "
iwantsushi
Profile Joined October 2010
India128 Posts
January 19 2011 04:44 GMT
#20839
oh once more.....gyuri is best.
" i like protoss because they're clean" - " "
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
January 19 2011 05:18 GMT
#20840
The fact of the matter is, these kpop idols are only out for themselves. Compare these guys to the old school kpop groups, Shinhwa and g.o.d.

In g.o.d, JYP wanted to force out the rapper in the group, but the members hired an investigator and held a press conference to ensure that their brother stayed. In recent times, when JYP pulled the same stunt, the members of 2PM agreed to kick Jay Park out.

Same thing with Shinhwa, SM was considering getting rid of Andy (admittedly, he's pretty useless), but the members chipped in their own money to ensure that he stayed with the group. When they decided to leave, they left as a whole group. None of this nonsense breaking off without telling the others.

I can't see Kpop being the same anymore. People say it's just a phase, but this is destroying the industry.
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